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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:31 am
by jhu72
CU88 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:25 am Rutgers researchers say further study is needed but those with the chronic respiratory disease don’t appear to be at a higher risk of getting extremely ill or dying from coronavirus

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/asthma-doe ... -xqE4SJS6Q
Asthma patients are usually already being treated with steroids, I think.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:28 am
by Farfromgeneva
wgdsr wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:08 am Regeneron signs a $450 million contract for its coronavirus therapy

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/regener ... idappshare

u.s. dropping half a bill on regeneron. looked briefly for phase 2 last night and evidently there isn't any. phase one with 30 patients must've been safe at least:
https://investor.regeneron.com/news-rel ... prevention

good to be big pharma.

novavax getting over a billion, they're semi-advanced on a vaccine, hopefully that means results look good so far.
Since we're all a little selfish at times I root for Regeneron only becuase my best friend joined last year as a sales manager for the state of FL. Had survived like 8 rounds of cuts in 9yrs at Sanofi finally falling to their sword last year having consolidated FL and southern Ga under him (and like barely CPI raise for the increased responsibilities over the years), immediately got hired by Regeneron with a raise over prior salary and he tells me much better management and support than Sanofi or Pfizer, which is where he got into the industry. Otherwise have no opinion on the company but he's a super modest guy so I trust him when he says they are a far better managed company than the other two.

Had met the founding family of Celgene a while back, was an investor in a fund we had at a CRE CDO I worked at. Nice folks, seemed like scientists and out of touch with managing a larger business but good people in general.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:39 am
by Matnum PI
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro Tests Positive For Coronavirus

Bolsonaro follows Trump's lead over and over and said he wouldn't get the virus due to his "athletic background as a boy".

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:45 am
by wgdsr
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:39 am Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro Tests Positive For Coronavirus

Bolsonaro follows Trump's lead over and over and said he wouldn't get the virus due to his "athletic background as a boy".
taking the hcq, will be a referendum on that if he makes it thru. along with being athletic as a boy.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:58 am
by Matnum PI
I have a neighbor who shuns face masks, claims she'll never get Covid because "she's too stubborn to allow this to happen", and is currently on vacation with her family in FL.

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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:01 pm
by jhu72
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:39 am Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro Tests Positive For Coronavirus

Bolsonaro follows Trump's lead over and over and said he wouldn't get the virus due to his "athletic background as a boy".
… I want to see the test report and have a second impartial test taken. Like Trump, this guy would never own up to it unless there was something in it for him.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:07 pm
by seacoaster
wgdsr wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:08 am Regeneron signs a $450 million contract for its coronavirus therapy

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/regener ... idappshare

u.s. dropping half a bill on regeneron. looked briefly for phase 2 last night and evidently there isn't any. phase one with 30 patients must've been safe at least:
https://investor.regeneron.com/news-rel ... prevention

good to be big pharma.

novavax getting over a billion, they're semi-advanced on a vaccine, hopefully that means results look good so far.
Here is an article about Novavax:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/heal ... e=Homepage

"The federal government will pay the vaccine maker Novavax $1.6 billion to expedite the development of 100 million doses of a coronavirus vaccine by the beginning of next year, the company said on Tuesday.

The deal is the largest that the Trump administration has made so far with a company as part of Operation Warp Speed, the sprawling federal effort to make coronavirus vaccines and treatments available to the American public as quickly as possible. In doing so, the government has placed a significant bet on Novavax, a company based in Maryland that has never brought a product to market.

Operation Warp Speed is a multiagency effort that seeks to carry out President Trump’s pledge to make a coronavirus vaccine available by the end of the year, but the full extent of the project is still unclear. Officials have declined to list which vaccines and treatments are part of Operation Warp Speed.

In an interview on Sunday, Novavax’s president and chief executive, Stanley C. Erck, initially said he was not sure where in the government the $1.6 billion was coming from. A Novavax spokeswoman later said the money was coming from a “collaboration” between the Health and Human Services Department and the Defense Department.

In May, the administration announced it was awarding up to $1.2 billion as part of Operation Warp Speed to the British drugmaker AstraZeneca, which has said that its vaccine could be available by October. Four other companies — Moderna Therapeutics, Johnson & Johnson, Merck and Sanofi — have also received federal assistance for their experimental coronavirus vaccines.

“Adding Novavax’s candidate to Operation Warp Speed’s diverse portfolio of vaccines increases the odds that we will have a safe, effective vaccine as soon as the end of this year,” Alex M. Azar II, the health and human services secretary, said in a statement.

Refer your friends to The Times.
They’ll enjoy our special rate of $1 a week.
Mr. Erck said Novavax’s coronavirus vaccine uses the same technology as its other experimental vaccines, such as one for the flu, that have been tested in late-stage clinical trials. Novavax has recently brought in senior executives from established manufacturers like AstraZeneca and GlaxoSmithKline, he said.

“The risk they’re taking is that a company like ours — which doesn’t have a pipeline of already commercialized products — can we get to the big leagues and scale up?” he said. “And I think they’re placing the bet that we can.”

The U.S. investment comes after an international group, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, awarded up to $388 million to Novavax in May to make its coronavirus vaccine available globally
."

I guess fingers crossed on all of these initiatives.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:16 pm
by ggait
wgdsr wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:45 am
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:39 am Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro Tests Positive For Coronavirus

Bolsonaro follows Trump's lead over and over and said he wouldn't get the virus due to his "athletic background as a boy".
taking the hcq, will be a referendum on that if he makes it thru. along with being athletic as a boy.
Jair -- make sure to take some AZ and Vitamin D along with your HCQ!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:22 pm
by ggait
CU88 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:25 am Rutgers researchers say further study is needed but those with the chronic respiratory disease don’t appear to be at a higher risk of getting extremely ill or dying from coronavirus

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/asthma-doe ... -xqE4SJS6Q
This is really good news for our family. Since our asthmatic college student is preparing to head back to the petri dish of campus life.

Just have to make sure the kid goes back with a full stockpile of inhalers (which I believe are steroid based). I had not made that connection as the data was emerging recently that steroids are a helpful treatment for Covid.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:24 pm
by CU88
ggait wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:22 pm
CU88 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:25 am Rutgers researchers say further study is needed but those with the chronic respiratory disease don’t appear to be at a higher risk of getting extremely ill or dying from coronavirus

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/asthma-doe ... -xqE4SJS6Q
This is really good news for our family. Since our asthmatic college student is preparing to head back to the petri dish of campus life.

Just have to make sure the kid goes back with a full stockpile of inhalers (which I believe are steroid based). I had not made that connection as the data was emerging recently that steroids are a helpful treatment for Covid.
Best of luck to him!

Small steps, but we are slowly getting our hands around this virus.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:30 pm
by Matnum PI
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:01 pmI want to see the test report and have a second impartial test taken. Like Trump, this guy would never own up to it unless there was something in it for him.
You are correct. He's been denying this report...

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:07 pm
by youthathletics
True story.

My uncle in Tampa, is mid 70's, life long heroin/meth addict, his daughter takes care of him now. He fell and fractured his pelvis rim a few weeks ago. Transferred him to rehab center b/c he couldn't walk and in pain. Then is told he tests pos. for CV-19, family in Tampa are in a frenzy b/c he is not in the best of shape, for obviously reasons. 48 hours later from rehab center....sorry for the error but he is NOT positive for CV19, we apologize for the mix up.

So that means, there were either shady things going on to get gov't cheese/cash for the positive case or they isolated him but put a positive case back into general population and an honest mix up....either way they are afoul.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:47 pm
by jhu72
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:30 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:01 pmI want to see the test report and have a second impartial test taken. Like Trump, this guy would never own up to it unless there was something in it for him.
You are correct. He's been denying this report...
Just saw a report where he is admitting he has the rona. Still want a second opinion.

Time is approaching

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:24 pm
by ardilla secreta
The Impossible Decision Between Sending My Kid Back To School & Waiting Even Longer
I have three days left. Three days until I have to decide if I'm buying face masks along with my kid's school supplies. Three days until I have to decide whether she will be doing first grade over Zoom or walking into a building full of other people for each day of schooling during a global pandemic. Three days until I have to make the impossible decision to send my kid back to her beloved school, back to her friends and teachers, or to keep her home as COVID cases rise and we turn our kitchen table and Chromebook into a first grade classroom. My school district has put the choice to us directly — we need to check a box by July 10 — but parents everywhere are weighing the same factors.
https://www.romper.com/p/the-impossible ... r-27640233

Personally, I don’t have to make that decision, but if I had to tomorrow then it would be stay home. All along I saw this as an 18 month minimum event and will likely go longer because of mismanagement at the federal level and so much of the country not taking it serious. Too much of an inconvenience.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:26 pm
by ardilla secreta
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:47 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:30 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:01 pmI want to see the test report and have a second impartial test taken. Like Trump, this guy would never own up to it unless there was something in it for him.
You are correct. He's been denying this report...
Just saw a report where he is admitting he has the rona. Still want a second opinion.
He’s ugly too.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:24 pm
by CU77
Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale

Its decision to carry on in the face of the pandemic has yielded a surge of deaths without sparing its economy from damage

Ever since the coronavirus emerged in Europe, Sweden has captured international attention by conducting an unorthodox, open-air experiment. It has allowed the world to examine what happens in a pandemic when a government allows life to carry on largely unhindered.

This is what has happened: Not only have thousands more people died than in neighboring countries that imposed lockdowns, but Sweden’s economy has fared little better.

“They literally gained nothing,” said Jacob F. Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. “It’s a self-inflicted wound, and they have no economic gains.”
...
Per million people, Sweden has suffered 40 percent more deaths than the United States, 12 times more than Norway, seven times more than Finland and six times more than Denmark.

Sweden’s central bank expects its economy to contract by 4.5 percent this year, a revision from a previously expected gain of 1.3 percent. The unemployment rate jumped to 9 percent in May from 7.1 percent in March. “The overall damage to the economy means the recovery will be protracted, with unemployment remaining elevated,” Oxford Economics concluded in a recent research note.

This is more or less how damage caused by the pandemic has played out in Denmark, where the central bank expects that the economy will shrink 4.1 percent this year, and where joblessness has edged up to 5.6 percent in May from 4.1 percent in March.

In short, Sweden suffered a vastly higher death rate while failing to collect on the expected economic gains.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/busi ... virus.html

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:03 pm
by jhu72
CU77 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:24 pm
Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale

Its decision to carry on in the face of the pandemic has yielded a surge of deaths without sparing its economy from damage

Ever since the coronavirus emerged in Europe, Sweden has captured international attention by conducting an unorthodox, open-air experiment. It has allowed the world to examine what happens in a pandemic when a government allows life to carry on largely unhindered.

This is what has happened: Not only have thousands more people died than in neighboring countries that imposed lockdowns, but Sweden’s economy has fared little better.

“They literally gained nothing,” said Jacob F. Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. “It’s a self-inflicted wound, and they have no economic gains.”
...
Per million people, Sweden has suffered 40 percent more deaths than the United States, 12 times more than Norway, seven times more than Finland and six times more than Denmark.

Sweden’s central bank expects its economy to contract by 4.5 percent this year, a revision from a previously expected gain of 1.3 percent. The unemployment rate jumped to 9 percent in May from 7.1 percent in March. “The overall damage to the economy means the recovery will be protracted, with unemployment remaining elevated,” Oxford Economics concluded in a recent research note.

This is more or less how damage caused by the pandemic has played out in Denmark, where the central bank expects that the economy will shrink 4.1 percent this year, and where joblessness has edged up to 5.6 percent in May from 4.1 percent in March.

In short, Sweden suffered a vastly higher death rate while failing to collect on the expected economic gains.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/busi ... virus.html

Sweden has hero nation status on Faux News. Saw some cardiologist on Faux News explaining how Sweden got it right. He is convinced herd immunity is already in operation and is saving us. Moron doesn't take note of the climbing infection rates obviously, nor increasing hospitalization and ICU rates. I loved when he claimed, no evidence, the current problems in the SW came out of Mexico. Ya think he sucks much Trump dick? :lol:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:03 pm
by 6ftstick
American academy of pediatrics urges OPEN SCHOOLS.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:06 pm
by jhu72
6ftstick wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:03 pm American academy of pediatrics urges OPEN SCHOOLS.
... there is a good argument for this. It is however not a slam dunk.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:22 pm
by ggait
Deaths per million of population:

Sweden 539 (#7 in the world). FYI, a high rank is bad, not good.
Denmark 105 (#34)
Finland 59 (#49)
Norway 46 (#61)
Iceland 29 (#80)

Scoreboard.