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What's next? Boltons book! Or . at least. some excerpts....https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/p ... aine.html
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What's next, afan asks ? MSNBC hires Bolton & Parnas as consultants. Bolton flacks his book, along with the Wash Post's latest tell all archive of leaks from unnamed sources (but we can trust them, because they're the Wash Post). ...it's all part of the game. The MSM's thumb on the scale.
How many GOP Senators want to waste any more time on this nonsense ?
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He was duly elected, remember?

You keep thinking alllll the consequences of voting for Trump are going to fall solely on the liberals.

Nope.

And of course, you blame the MSM instead of Trump for this mess. We've now passed the three year mark, and old salt's Xmas miracle of "nothing being Trump's fault" continues.

Neat. If he makes it to four years doing nothing wrong, does he get in to Cooperstown? Not sure how the voting works with that....


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a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:21 pm He was duly elected, remember?

You keep thinking alllll the consequences of voting for Trump are going to fall solely on the liberals.

Nope.

And of course, you blame the MSM instead of Trump for this mess. We've now passed the three year mark, and old salt's Xmas miracle of "nothing being Trump's fault" continues.

Neat. If he makes it to four years doing nothing wrong, does he get in to Cooperstown? Not sure how the voting works with that....
He was duly elected, but he had no shadow govt, waiting in the wings & think tanks, ready to re-enter through the revolving door.

Given the strength of The Resistance, from all sides, from without & within, it's remarkable that Trump has lasted this long.

If he should somehow survive & win re-election, will he be allowed to serve another term ? Doubtful.
The Deep State & MSM won't tolerate it. Schiff's already telling us not to trust the 2020 election.
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old salt wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:28 pm The NYT''s been sitting on this for max impact. Who knows how long they've been holding this hole card.
Oh, this isn’t the hole card. How many cards are there in a deck? How many have been turned over so far? Do the math. We got lots and lots more hole cards to see on this joker.

My prediction for the hole card of hole cards is the New York State indictment that will drop on Trump in October. 100+ pages in length with lots of convincing incriminating details.
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old salt wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:03 am
a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:21 pm He was duly elected, remember?

You keep thinking alllll the consequences of voting for Trump are going to fall solely on the liberals.

Nope.

And of course, you blame the MSM instead of Trump for this mess. We've now passed the three year mark, and old salt's Xmas miracle of "nothing being Trump's fault" continues.

Neat. If he makes it to four years doing nothing wrong, does he get in to Cooperstown? Not sure how the voting works with that....
He was duly elected, but he had no shadow govt, waiting in the wings & think tanks, ready to re-enter through the revolving door.

Given the strength of The Resistance, from all sides, from without & within, it's remarkable that Trump has lasted this long.

If he should somehow survive & win re-election, will he be allowed to serve another term ? Doubtful.
The Deep State & MSM won't tolerate it. Schiff's already telling us not to trust the 2020 election.
If it was any other poster, I'd replace the word 'Trump' the word 'Obama", and repost this as "fixed it". But I respect you, and your polite request....so instead I'll simply say, that's what they said about Obama. And Bush, for that matter.

And if Biden gets elected? Same thing will happen to him. McConnell will refuse to work with him, and the four year Ukraine investigation will start in the Senate.

Meanwhile, nothing will get done, and we'll be back here talking about all the stuff that didn't get done while "Mom and Dad" pretend to fight....and the 1% will have an even larger share of our wealth.
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The White House has had Bolton book for 3 weeks. Some hole card. Pat Cippilone and Jay Sekulow went with the lie anyway. I wonder if Judge Roberts is paying attention.
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a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:52 pm
tech37 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:45 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:54 pm
tech37 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:35 pm Another stellar show of class on the board :oops:
Pot. Kettle. Clutch your pearls when posters return your fire.....
tech37 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:35 pm Are you chumps okay with Hunter testifying?...how bout mighty Joe himself? :lol:
tech37 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:35 pm right youth, a fan's only clear lately has been the Gilman :D
tech37 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:35 pm Guess Hopkins gave degrees in unconditional hate as well.
Vintage a fan... a perfect example of posting stuff out of context :roll:
Go right ahead and give us the context. Explain why going after a poster personally (calling out his alma mater) is classy, but returning that fire with dripping sarcasm isn't. I've got time.
tech37 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:35 pm Return fire? That's rich...I made a sincere post to you this morning and received ridicule...great fun.
Ridicule? You mean like posting a LOL emoji, and calling the rest of us chumps? Like that?

You keep doing this. Either relax, and deal with others giving your hard time, rolling with the punches.....or stop punching.

Pick one. I'm fine with either. I'd prefer to be polite, but you can't seem to do that so......
We already discussed context quite a while ago, guess you forgot. More likely though, you probably replied with the usual FoxNation! and Trumpist!...so what is the point of trying to give you my opinion or explain anything to you when that's where things wind up?

BTW, you telling me to relax is quite humorous.
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old salt wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:28 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:15 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:53 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:51 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:40 pm The call is coming from inside the (White) house:

Geoff Bennett
@GeoffRBennett
New from John Bolton aide Sarah Tinsley: “Several weeks ago, the ambassador sent a hard copy of his draft manuscript to the White House for prepublication review by the National Security Council. The ambassador has not passed that manuscript to anyone else for review. Period.”
5:28 PM · Jan 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone


The Deep State strikes back -- again!!
Imagine that. :lol:
Don't tell old salt. He doesn't want to hear that his Deep State is Trump's own people.
Must be an undercover Hillary supporter.
The NYT''s been sitting on this for max impact. Who knows how long they've been holding this hole card. How many times have MSM talking heads hinted that other stuff would soon be coming out, specifically citing Bolton's book as an example. The MSM's not going to let the Senate decide. The unbiased, impartial Fifth Column/Fourth Estate, working their will. What's new ? Just more details about the drug deal already in the record. Bolton will sell some books but who will ever trust him in their Admin again ? Will this change any Senate votes on witnesses ?
.and you know this about NYT, how exactly? Does your know-it-all persona have any limits? Not only are you an allged expert on the press, national security, military affairs and every other subject, your myopia about Trump is simply stunning. If your alleged deep state Apparatchiks really do all of the things you think they do, why is it that this stuff only started with the current occupant of the WH and not with ANY of the preceding Presidents? Like your hero DOPUS, you blame everything on Obama to this day. Very weak sauce, Sherlock. Keep yammering and maybe it will qualify you for a spot on the defense team. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:35 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:28 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:15 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:53 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:51 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:40 pm The call is coming from inside the (White) house:

Geoff Bennett
@GeoffRBennett
New from John Bolton aide Sarah Tinsley: “Several weeks ago, the ambassador sent a hard copy of his draft manuscript to the White House for prepublication review by the National Security Council. The ambassador has not passed that manuscript to anyone else for review. Period.”
5:28 PM · Jan 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone


The Deep State strikes back -- again!!
Imagine that. :lol:
Don't tell old salt. He doesn't want to hear that his Deep State is Trump's own people.
Must be an undercover Hillary supporter.
The NYT''s been sitting on this for max impact. Who knows how long they've been holding this hole card. How many times have MSM talking heads hinted that other stuff would soon be coming out, specifically citing Bolton's book as an example. The MSM's not going to let the Senate decide. The unbiased, impartial Fifth Column/Fourth Estate, working their will. What's new ? Just more details about the drug deal already in the record. Bolton will sell some books but who will ever trust him in their Admin again ? Will this change any Senate votes on witnesses ?
.and you know this about NYT, how exactly? Does your know-it-all persona have any limits? Not only are you an allged expert on the press, national security, military affairs and every other subject, your myopia about Trump is simply stunning. If your alleged deep state Apparatchiks really do all of the things you think they do, why is it that this stuff only started with the current occupant of the WH and not with ANY of the preceding Presidents? Like your hero DPOUS, you blame everything on Obama to this day. Very weak sauce, Sherlock. Keep yammering and maybe it will qualify you for a spot on the defense team. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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A little history for our resident expert on all things - The author, noted British historian Miranda Carter, would run rings around him and his sycophants.

Pay extra attention to her LAST line.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultu ... -an-empire

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A BAD-TEMPERED, DISTRACTIBLE DOOFUS RUNS AN EMPIRE?

"One of the few things that Kaiser Wilhelm II, who ruled Germany from 1888 to 1918, had a talent for was causing outrage. A particular specialty was insulting other monarchs. He called the diminutive King Victor Emmanuel III of Italy “the dwarf” in front of the king’s own entourage. He called Prince (later Tsar) Ferdinand, of Bulgaria, “Fernando naso,” on account of his beaky nose, and spread rumors that he was a hermaphrodite. Since Wilhelm was notably indiscreet, people always knew what he was saying behind their backs. Ferdinand had his revenge. After a visit to Germany, in 1909, during which the Kaiser slapped him on the bottom in public and then refused to apologize, Ferdinand awarded a valuable arms contract that had been promised to the Germans to a French company instead.

Not that this deterred the Kaiser. One of the many things that Wilhelm was convinced he was brilliant at, despite all evidence to the contrary, was “personal diplomacy,” fixing foreign policy through one-on-one meetings with other European monarchs and statesmen. In fact, Wilhelm could do neither the personal nor the diplomacy, and these meetings rarely went well. The Kaiser viewed other people in instrumental terms, was a compulsive liar, and seemed to have a limited understanding of cause and effect. In 1890, he let lapse a long-standing defensive agreement with Russia—the German Empire’s vast and sometimes threatening eastern neighbor. He judged, wrongly, that Russia was so desperate for German good will that he could keep it dangling. Instead, Russia immediately made an alliance with Germany’s western neighbor and enemy, France. Wilhelm decided he would charm and manipulate Tsar Nicholas II (a “ninny” and a “whimperer,” according to Wilhelm, fit only “to grow turnips”) into abandoning the alliance. In 1897, Nicholas told Wilhelm to get lost; the German-Russian alliance withered.

About a decade ago, I published “George, Nicholas and Wilhelm: Three Royal Cousins and the Road to World War I,” a book that was, in part, about Kaiser Wilhelm, who is probably best known for being Queen Victoria’s first grandchild and for leading Germany into the First World War. Ever since Donald Trump started campaigning for President, the Kaiser has once again been on my mind—his personal failings, and the global fallout they led to.

Trump’s tweets were what first reminded me of the Kaiser. Wilhelm was a compulsive speechmaker who constantly strayed off script. Even his staff couldn’t stop him, though it tried, distributing copies of speeches to the German press before he’d actually given them. Unfortunately, the Austrian press printed the speeches as they were delivered, and the gaffes and insults soon circulated around Europe. “There is only one person who is master in this empire and I am not going to tolerate any other,” Wilhelm liked to say, even though Germany had a democratic assembly and political parties. (“I’m the only one that matters,” Trump has said.) The Kaiser reserved particular abuse for political parties that voted against his policies. “I regard every Social Democrat as an enemy of the Fatherland,” he said, and he denounced the German Socialist party as a “gang of traitors.” August Bebel, the Socialist party leader, said that every time the Kaiser opened his mouth, the party gained another hundred thousand votes.

When Wilhelm became emperor, in 1888, at twenty-nine years old, he was determined to be seen as tough and powerful. He fetishized the Army, surrounded himself with generals (though, like Trump, he didn’t like listening to them), owned a hundred and twenty military uniforms, and wore little else. He cultivated a special severe facial expression for public occasions and photographs—there are many, as Wilhelm would send out signed photos and portrait busts to anyone who’d have one—and also a heavily waxed, upward-turned moustache that was so famous it had its own name, “Er ist Erreicht!” (It is accomplished!)

In fact, Wilhelm didn’t accomplish very much. The general staff of the German Army agreed that the Kaiser couldn’t “lead three soldiers over a gutter.” He had neither the attention span nor the ability. “Distractions, whether they are little games with his army or navy, travelling or hunting—are everything to him,” a disillusioned former mentor wrote. “He reads very little apart from newspaper cuttings, hardly writes anything himself apart from marginalia on reports and considers those talks best which are quickly over and done with.” The Kaiser’s entourage compiled press cuttings for him, mostly about himself, which he read as obsessively as Trump watches television. A critical story would send him into paroxysms of fury.

During Wilhelm’s reign, the upper echelons of the German government began to unravel into a free-for-all, with officials wrangling against one another. “The most contradictory opinions are now urged at high and all-highest level,” a German diplomat lamented. To add to the confusion, Wilhelm changed his position every five minutes. He was deeply suggestible and would defer to the last person he’d spoken to or cutting he’d read—at least until he’d spoken to the next person. “It is unendurable,” a foreign minister wrote, in 1894. “Today one thing and tomorrow the next and after a few days something completely different.” Wilhelm’s staff and ministers resorted to manipulation, distraction, and flattery to manage him. “In order to get him to accept an idea you must act as if the idea were his,” the Kaiser’s closest friend, Philipp zu Eulenburg, advised his colleagues, adding, “Don’t forget the sugar.” (In “Fire and Fury,” Michael Wolff writes that to get Trump to take an action his White House staff has to persuade him that “he had thought of it himself.”)

More sinisterly, Wilhelm’s patronage of the aggressive, nationalistic right left him surrounded by ministers who held a collective conviction that a European war was inevitable and even desirable. Alfred von Tirpitz, Germany’s Naval chief—who realized at his first meeting with the Kaiser that he did “not live in the real world”—consciously exploited Wilhelm’s envy and rage in order to extract the astronomical sums required to build a German Navy to rival Britain’s, a project that created an arms race and became an intractable block to peace negotiations.

The Kaiser was susceptible but never truly controllable. He asserted his authority unpredictably, as if to prove he was still in charge, staging rogue interventions into his own advisers’ policies and sacking ministers without warning. “You cannot have the faintest idea what I have prevented,” his most obsequious aide, Bernhard von Bülow, complained to a friend, “and how much of my time I must devote to restoring order where our All Highest Master has created chaos.”

The Kaiser’s darkest secret was that every few years—after his meddling and blunders had exposed his incompetence or resulted in a crisis—he would suffer a full-blown collapse. His entourage would scrape him off the floor, and he would retire to one of his palaces, where, prostrate, he would weep and complain that he’d been victimized. After the moaning came the pacing, in uncharacteristic silence. Occasionally he would give way to tears. Gradually he would recalibrate his sense of reality—or unreality—and after a few weeks would bounce up again, as boisterous and obstreperous as ever.

I spent six years writing my book about Wilhelm and his cousins, King George V, of England, and Tsar Nicholas II, and the Kaiser’s egotism and eccentricity made him by far the most entertaining of the three to write about. After a while, though, living with Wilhelm—as you do when you write about another person over a long period—became onerous. It was dispiriting, even oppressive, to spend so much time around someone who never learned, and never changed.

The Kaiser wasn’t singly responsible for the First World War, but his actions and choices helped to bring it on. If international conflict is around the corner, it would seem that you really don’t want a narcissist in control of a global power. Wilhelm’s touchiness, his unpredictability, his need to be acknowledged: these things struck a chord with elements in Germany, which was in a kind of adolescent spasm—quick to perceive slights, excited by the idea of flexing its muscles, filled with a sense of entitlement. At the same time, Wilhelm’s posturing raised tensions in Europe. His clumsy personal diplomacy created suspicion. His alliance with the vitriolic right and his slavish admiration for the Army inched the country closer and closer to war. Once the war was actually upon him, the government and military effectively swept the Kaiser aside. And the gravest damage occurred only after Wilhelm abdicated, in November of 1918. (He spent the rest of his life—he survived until 1941—in central Holland.) The defeated Germany sank into years of depression, resentments sharpened, the toxic lie that Germany had been “robbed” of its rightful victory in the war took hold. The rest, as they say, is history.

I’m not suggesting that Trump is about to start the Third World War. But recent foreign developments—the wild swings with North Korea, the ditching of the Iran nuclear deal, the threat of a trade war with China—suggest upheavals that could quickly grow out of American control. Some of Trump’s critics suppose that these escalating crises might cause him to loosen, or even lose, his grip on the Presidency. The real lesson of Kaiser Wilhelm II, however, may be that Trump’s leaving office might not be the end of the problems he may bring on or exacerbate—it may be only the beginning."
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Who is gonna eat the crap sandwich? Trump or innocent Senators?
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Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:35 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:28 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:15 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:53 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:51 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:40 pm The call is coming from inside the (White) house:

Geoff Bennett
@GeoffRBennett
New from John Bolton aide Sarah Tinsley: “Several weeks ago, the ambassador sent a hard copy of his draft manuscript to the White House for prepublication review by the National Security Council. The ambassador has not passed that manuscript to anyone else for review. Period.”
5:28 PM · Jan 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone


The Deep State strikes back -- again!!
Imagine that. :lol:
Don't tell old salt. He doesn't want to hear that his Deep State is Trump's own people.
Must be an undercover Hillary supporter.
The NYT''s been sitting on this for max impact. Who knows how long they've been holding this hole card. How many times have MSM talking heads hinted that other stuff would soon be coming out, specifically citing Bolton's book as an example. The MSM's not going to let the Senate decide. The unbiased, impartial Fifth Column/Fourth Estate, working their will. What's new ? Just more details about the drug deal already in the record. Bolton will sell some books but who will ever trust him in their Admin again ? Will this change any Senate votes on witnesses ?
.and you know this about NYT, how exactly? Does your know-it-all persona have any limits? Not only are you an allged expert on the press, national security, military affairs and every other subject, your myopia about Trump is simply stunning. If your alleged deep state Apparatchiks really do all of the things you think they do, why is it that this stuff only started with the current occupant of the WH and not with ANY of the preceding Presidents? Like your hero DOPUS, you blame everything on Obama to this day. Very weak sauce, Sherlock. Keep yammering and maybe it will qualify you for a spot on the defense team. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



A telltale sign of TDS is the inability to be cynical about how media and books sales work, with the cherry on top being that now we love John Bolton!

I am a very consistent hater of John Bolton. This is not a good person. When Trump ill-advisedly hire him, many folks including myself thought that Trump had reneged on his stated compact to not hire war profiteers. So Trump is getting his just desserts with a 4-day media onslaught.

That said, if any of you believe John Bolton really about anything, please go see a therapist, or hold fast to your wallet. He is a snake almost without equal. Always has been. He is a neocon of the worst sort.

Bolton is lying here, and that of course will not cause any hesitation among the media and all TDS sufferers from exclaiming that this is the evidence we needed, Trump is gone. This song repeats itself every few months, and it drags eveyone's cranium down a few notches. In a just world, John Bolton would be cleaning the latrines at Guantanomo. Only in America and only in politics could a guy this deceptive enjoy a career this lucrative.

Tune in to MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, or read the NYT and Wapo to learn all the great things about their newest bestie, John Bolton.

Yet another nothingburger story which will be heralded as the equal of the Watergate tapes.

Don't you get tired of being wrong? Onward. :lol:
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Question. Has Trump, the White House, or the Defense ever answered why Trump released the aid to Ukraine? Have they been asked the question? I mean, he held the aid due to his general disdain for corruption, in this case in Ukraine. So he released the aid because he was satisfied there was no corruption? Curious.
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Trump’s not gone, but a flock of Senators might be. Oh, yeah, Barr and Pompeo have been lying, too.
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ggait wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:25 pm If I were a U.S. Senator (male or female), I would show up for work on Monday sporting a bushy white fake moustache...

;)

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Peter Brown wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:03 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:35 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:28 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:15 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:53 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:51 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:40 pm The call is coming from inside the (White) house:

Geoff Bennett
@GeoffRBennett
New from John Bolton aide Sarah Tinsley: “Several weeks ago, the ambassador sent a hard copy of his draft manuscript to the White House for prepublication review by the National Security Council. The ambassador has not passed that manuscript to anyone else for review. Period.”
5:28 PM · Jan 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone


The Deep State strikes back -- again!!
Imagine that. :lol:
Don't tell old salt. He doesn't want to hear that his Deep State is Trump's own people.
Must be an undercover Hillary supporter.
The NYT''s been sitting on this for max impact. Who knows how long they've been holding this hole card. How many times have MSM talking heads hinted that other stuff would soon be coming out, specifically citing Bolton's book as an example. The MSM's not going to let the Senate decide. The unbiased, impartial Fifth Column/Fourth Estate, working their will. What's new ? Just more details about the drug deal already in the record. Bolton will sell some books but who will ever trust him in their Admin again ? Will this change any Senate votes on witnesses ?
.and you know this about NYT, how exactly? Does your know-it-all persona have any limits? Not only are you an allged expert on the press, national security, military affairs and every other subject, your myopia about Trump is simply stunning. If your alleged deep state Apparatchiks really do all of the things you think they do, why is it that this stuff only started with the current occupant of the WH and not with ANY of the preceding Presidents? Like your hero DOPUS, you blame everything on Obama to this day. Very weak sauce, Sherlock. Keep yammering and maybe it will qualify you for a spot on the defense team. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



A telltale sign of TDS is the inability to be cynical about how media and books sales work, with the cherry on top being that now we love John Bolton!

I am a very consistent hater of John Bolton. This is not a good person. When Trump ill-advisedly hire him, many folks including myself thought that Trump had reneged on his stated compact to not hire war profiteers. So Trump is getting his just desserts with a 4-day media onslaught.

That said, if any of you believe John Bolton really about anything, please go see a therapist, or hold fast to your wallet. He is a snake almost without equal. Always has been. He is a neocon of the worst sort.

Bolton is lying here, and that of course will not cause any hesitation among the media and all TDS sufferers from exclaiming that this is the evidence we needed, Trump is gone. This song repeats itself every few months, and it drags eveyone's cranium down a few notches. In a just world, John Bolton would be cleaning the latrines at Guantanomo. Only in America and only in politics could a guy this deceptive enjoy a career this lucrative.

Tune in to MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, or read the NYT and Wapo to learn all the great things about their newest bestie, John Bolton.

Yet another nothingburger story which will be heralded as the equal of the Watergate tapes.

Don't you get tired of being wrong? Onward. :lol:
PB, depending upon one's leaning on various issues, there's lots not to like about Bolton, for sure.

No doubt, a neocon.
An ideologue.

But what in the world makes you think that Bolton is lying (as reported so far)?
What he apparently is able and willing to say is exactly confirming, based on first hand knowledge, what others have testified under oath actually happened.

His reaction to it, in real time, was testified to by numerous folks.

The "drug deal" happened. All of it.

The question for Trump supporters is does it matter?
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Peter Brown wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:03 am

I am a very consistent hater of John Bolton.
Consistent meaning this is the first time you have made any comment about Bolton....gottcha. ;)
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foreverlax wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:14 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:03 am

I am a very consistent hater of John Bolton.
Consistent meaning this is the first time you have made any comment about Bolton....gottcha. ;)



Consistent in my circle; I do not know if I have ever said anything about him here. The same goes for Kristol. You will never hear me say a nice thing about these guys. They are thoroughly bad for America, and especially bad for our enlisted men and women.

These guys have never met a war they didn't love and they never met an enlistment agency they'd personally visit. Backbencher worms. Befriend him at your peril.
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Re: The IMPEACHMENT of President Asterisk

Post by Peter Brown »

MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:53 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:03 am
Kismet wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:35 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:28 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:15 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:53 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:51 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:40 pm The call is coming from inside the (White) house:

Geoff Bennett
@GeoffRBennett
New from John Bolton aide Sarah Tinsley: “Several weeks ago, the ambassador sent a hard copy of his draft manuscript to the White House for prepublication review by the National Security Council. The ambassador has not passed that manuscript to anyone else for review. Period.”
5:28 PM · Jan 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone


The Deep State strikes back -- again!!
Imagine that. :lol:
Don't tell old salt. He doesn't want to hear that his Deep State is Trump's own people.
Must be an undercover Hillary supporter.
The NYT''s been sitting on this for max impact. Who knows how long they've been holding this hole card. How many times have MSM talking heads hinted that other stuff would soon be coming out, specifically citing Bolton's book as an example. The MSM's not going to let the Senate decide. The unbiased, impartial Fifth Column/Fourth Estate, working their will. What's new ? Just more details about the drug deal already in the record. Bolton will sell some books but who will ever trust him in their Admin again ? Will this change any Senate votes on witnesses ?
.and you know this about NYT, how exactly? Does your know-it-all persona have any limits? Not only are you an allged expert on the press, national security, military affairs and every other subject, your myopia about Trump is simply stunning. If your alleged deep state Apparatchiks really do all of the things you think they do, why is it that this stuff only started with the current occupant of the WH and not with ANY of the preceding Presidents? Like your hero DOPUS, you blame everything on Obama to this day. Very weak sauce, Sherlock. Keep yammering and maybe it will qualify you for a spot on the defense team. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



A telltale sign of TDS is the inability to be cynical about how media and books sales work, with the cherry on top being that now we love John Bolton!

I am a very consistent hater of John Bolton. This is not a good person. When Trump ill-advisedly hire him, many folks including myself thought that Trump had reneged on his stated compact to not hire war profiteers. So Trump is getting his just desserts with a 4-day media onslaught.

That said, if any of you believe John Bolton really about anything, please go see a therapist, or hold fast to your wallet. He is a snake almost without equal. Always has been. He is a neocon of the worst sort.

Bolton is lying here, and that of course will not cause any hesitation among the media and all TDS sufferers from exclaiming that this is the evidence we needed, Trump is gone. This song repeats itself every few months, and it drags eveyone's cranium down a few notches. In a just world, John Bolton would be cleaning the latrines at Guantanomo. Only in America and only in politics could a guy this deceptive enjoy a career this lucrative.

Tune in to MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, or read the NYT and Wapo to learn all the great things about their newest bestie, John Bolton.

Yet another nothingburger story which will be heralded as the equal of the Watergate tapes.

Don't you get tired of being wrong? Onward. :lol:
PB, depending upon one's leaning on various issues, there's lots not to like about Bolton, for sure.

No doubt, a neocon.
An ideologue.

But what in the world makes you think that Bolton is lying (as reported so far)?
What he apparently is able and willing to say is exactly confirming, based on first hand knowledge, what others have testified under oath actually happened.

His reaction to it, in real time, was testified to by numerous folks.

The "drug deal" happened. All of it.

The question for Trump supporters is does it matter?


I was shocked :o to learn that Bolton had a book coming out for sale the same day the most meaningful passage is leaked by _____!

I mean, most honorable people who posses such valuable information for the Republic, I am proposing, might actually volunteer it with zero monetary strings...

What's even more amazing is that Amazon just yesterday (the same day as the clearly coincidental leak) gotten Bolton's book's pre-order page up and running! Amazing coincidence!

I am knocked over with a feather today. :lol:

The man must be telling the truth! :lol:
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