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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pm
by Kismet
Let's keep in mind that the following foreign leaders/entities have all officially endorsed DOPUS for re-election

Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil
Rodrigo Duterte of The Phillippines
Viktor Orban of Hungary
Vladimir Putin of Russian Federation
The Taliban

Think about that and also this
If Trump loses seniors (+7 vs Clinton) *and* college-educated white men (+14 vs Clinton) he could turn out every working-class white registered voter in America and it wouldn’t make a difference to the ultimate outcome. He would still lose.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Kismet wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pm Let's keep in mind that the following foreign leaders/entities have all officially endorsed DOPUS for re-election

Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil
Rodrigo Duterte of The Phillippines
Viktor Orban of Hungary
Vladimir Putin of Russian Federation
The Taliban

Think about that and also this
If Trump loses seniors (+7 vs Clinton) *and* college-educated white men (+14 vs Clinton) he could turn out every working-class white registered voter in America and it wouldn’t make a difference to the ultimate outcome. He would still lose.
You forgot the Khmer Rouge

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:39 pm
by seacoaster
Apparently the Obama Administration was able to keep track of the parents; Duce, not so much:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... n-n1244066

"Lawyers appointed by a federal judge to identify migrant families who were separated by the Trump administration say they have yet to track down the parents of 545 children, and that approximately two-thirds of those parents were deported to Central America without their children, according to a filing from the ACLU on Tuesday.

The Trump administration instituted a "zero tolerance" policy in 2018 that separated migrant children and parents at the southern U.S. border. The administration later confirmed that it had actually begun separating families in 2017 along some portions of the border under a pilot program. The ACLU and other pro-bono law firms were tasked with finding the members of families separated during that pilot program.

Unlike the 2,800 families separated under zero tolerance in 2018, most of whom remained in custody when zero tolerance was ended by executive order, many of the more than 1,000 parents separated from their children under the pilot program had already been deported before a federal judge in California ordered they be found.

“It is critical to find out as much as possible about who was responsible for this horrific practice while not losing sight of the fact that hundreds of families have still not been found and remain separated," said Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU Immigrants' Rights Project. "There is so much more work to be done to find these families."

"People ask when we will find all of these families and, sadly, I can’t give an answer. I just don’t know. But we will not stop looking until we have found every one of the families, no matter how long it takes. The tragic reality is that hundreds of parents were deported to Central America without their children, who remain here with foster families or distant relatives.”

The ACLU and other organizations that are part of a court-appointed "steering committee" learned that more than 1,000 families were separated in 2017 based on data provided by the Department of Homeland Security. Of those, it has been able to contact the parents of more than 550 children and believes about 25 of them may have a chance of being able to come back to the U.S. for reunification.

Gelernt said some of the families contacted have elected to keep their children in the U.S. with a family member or sponsor "due to fear of what will happen to their child if they return" to their home countries.

Officials said in 2017 that separated migrants under 12 couldn't find parents again on their own. The group Justice in Motion is physically searching for the separated parents in Mexico and Central America. “While we have already located many deported parents, there are hundreds more who we are still trying to reach,” said the group in a statement. “It’s an arduous and time-consuming process on a good day. During the pandemic, our team of human rights defenders is taking special measures to protect their own security and safety, as well as that of the parents and their communities.”

A separate court order directed that the Trump administration reunite families separated under zero tolerance in 2018.

DHS did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:46 pm
by jhu72
“President Trump and his allies have tried to paint Joe Biden as soft on China, in part by pointing to his son’s business dealings there,” the New York Times reports.

“But Mr. Trump’s own business history is filled with overseas financial deals, and some have involved the Chinese state.”

“And it turns out that China is one of only three foreign nations — the others are Britain and Ireland — where Mr. Trump maintains a bank account, according to an analysis of the president’s tax records… The foreign accounts do not show up on Mr. Trump’s public financial disclosures, where he must list personal assets, because they are held under corporate names. The identities of the financial institutions are not clear.”

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:09 pm
by jhu72
seacoaster wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:39 pm Apparently the Obama Administration was able to keep track of the parents; Duce, not so much:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... n-n1244066

"Lawyers appointed by a federal judge to identify migrant families who were separated by the Trump administration say they have yet to track down the parents of 545 children, and that approximately two-thirds of those parents were deported to Central America without their children, according to a filing from the ACLU on Tuesday.

The Trump administration instituted a "zero tolerance" policy in 2018 that separated migrant children and parents at the southern U.S. border. The administration later confirmed that it had actually begun separating families in 2017 along some portions of the border under a pilot program. The ACLU and other pro-bono law firms were tasked with finding the members of families separated during that pilot program.

Unlike the 2,800 families separated under zero tolerance in 2018, most of whom remained in custody when zero tolerance was ended by executive order, many of the more than 1,000 parents separated from their children under the pilot program had already been deported before a federal judge in California ordered they be found.

“It is critical to find out as much as possible about who was responsible for this horrific practice while not losing sight of the fact that hundreds of families have still not been found and remain separated," said Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU Immigrants' Rights Project. "There is so much more work to be done to find these families."

"People ask when we will find all of these families and, sadly, I can’t give an answer. I just don’t know. But we will not stop looking until we have found every one of the families, no matter how long it takes. The tragic reality is that hundreds of parents were deported to Central America without their children, who remain here with foster families or distant relatives.”

The ACLU and other organizations that are part of a court-appointed "steering committee" learned that more than 1,000 families were separated in 2017 based on data provided by the Department of Homeland Security. Of those, it has been able to contact the parents of more than 550 children and believes about 25 of them may have a chance of being able to come back to the U.S. for reunification.

Gelernt said some of the families contacted have elected to keep their children in the U.S. with a family member or sponsor "due to fear of what will happen to their child if they return" to their home countries.

Officials said in 2017 that separated migrants under 12 couldn't find parents again on their own. The group Justice in Motion is physically searching for the separated parents in Mexico and Central America. “While we have already located many deported parents, there are hundreds more who we are still trying to reach,” said the group in a statement. “It’s an arduous and time-consuming process on a good day. During the pandemic, our team of human rights defenders is taking special measures to protect their own security and safety, as well as that of the parents and their communities.”

A separate court order directed that the Trump administration reunite families separated under zero tolerance in 2018.

DHS did not immediately respond to a request for comment."
... well you remember when this happened in the Obama administration? When they ignored a court order and public outcry. Yea, me neither. :roll:

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:41 pm
by jhu72

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:40 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:41 pm 10 monkeys with flame throwers. :lol:
That’s a great businessman!

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:48 pm
by ardilla secreta
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:40 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:41 pm 10 monkeys with flame throwers. :lol:
That’s a great businessman!
Brad Parscale was an incredible monkey. Like Sherman through Atlanta. Then he went ape.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:01 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:48 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:40 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:41 pm 10 monkeys with flame throwers. :lol:
That’s a great businessman!
Brad Parscale was an incredible monkey. Like Sherman through Atlanta. Then he went ape.


😂😂😂😂 my stomach hurts!!

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:44 pm
by seacoaster
What does a Little Dictator do when his flunkies won't indict his political opponents on demand?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

"President Trump and his advisers have repeatedly discussed whether to fire FBI Director Christopher A. Wray after Election Day — a scenario that also could imperil the tenure of Attorney General William P. Barr as the president grows increasingly frustrated that federal law enforcement has not delivered his campaign the kind of last-minute boost that the FBI provided in 2016, according to people familiar with the matter.

The conversations among the president and senior aides stem in part from their disappointment that Wray in particular but Barr as well have not done what Trump had hoped — indicate that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, his son Hunter Biden, or other Biden associates are under investigation, these people say. Like others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose internal discussions.

In the campaign’s closing weeks, the president has intensified public calls for jailing his challenger, much as he did for Hillary Clinton, his opponent in 2016. Trump has called Biden a “criminal” without articulating what laws he believes the former vice president has broken."

But sure, he's more genuinely religious than Biden. Morons.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:57 am
by Brooklyn
President Obama's editorial about Dump:


I get that this president wants full credit for the economy he inherited and zero blame for the pandemic that he ignored.”


Touche'!!!

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:24 am
by MDlaxfan76
jhu72 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:46 pm “President Trump and his allies have tried to paint Joe Biden as soft on China, in part by pointing to his son’s business dealings there,” the New York Times reports.

“But Mr. Trump’s own business history is filled with overseas financial deals, and some have involved the Chinese state.”

“And it turns out that China is one of only three foreign nations — the others are Britain and Ireland — where Mr. Trump maintains a bank account, according to an analysis of the president’s tax records… The foreign accounts do not show up on Mr. Trump’s public financial disclosures, where he must list personal assets, because they are held under corporate names. The identities of the financial institutions are not clear.”
$17.5 million suddenly appears in secret Chinese bank account, during Trump's tenure as POTUS...he withdraws, personally, $15 million...

and not reported?
Tax returns, please.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:27 am
by seacoaster
From the Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... gest-lies/

"There’s a lot to scrutinize about John Ratcliffe’s big announcement about Iran and Russia, but an important piece of news about it is getting lost: Without doing so directly, President Trump’s own director of national intelligence actually debunked one of the president’s biggest lies about the election.

Much discussion of Ratcliffe’s remarks to the media has focused on his claim that Iran is sending fake threatening emails to voters — purportedly from the right-wing extremist Proud Boys — to help Trump. As many have noted, the idea that this benefits Trump makes little sense on its face.

But Ratcliffe also said something else in his Wednesday evening comments that is oddly getting overlooked: He indirectly but unequivocally confirmed that the claims that Trump has been making about voter fraud, particularly in vote-by-mail, are false.

In that way, this affair actually demonstrates just how low Trump has sunk in trying to corrupt the election: validating Trump’s efforts to undermine confidence in the integrity of the voting is a line that even Ratcliffe, who’s widely seen as a devoted Trump loyalist, won’t cross.

The centerpiece of Ratcliffe’s announcement was that Iran — and Russia, which was mysteriously downplayed — has obtained voter data enabling Iran to send emails to voters that were faked to seem like right-wing efforts to menace them into voting for Trump.

Ratcliff noted that this was “designed to intimidate voters, incite social unrest and damage President Trump.”

The idea is that these emails are supposed to associate Trump with right-wing efforts to intimidate voters, harming him politically. But as Democrats noted, too little is known about the scheme to conclude that this was the conscious aim.

But the other thing Ratcliffe said about Iran is really important. Here it is:

Iran is distributing other content to include a video that implies that individuals could cast fraudulent ballots, even from overseas. This video, and any claims about such allegedly fraudulent ballots, are not true.
You don’t say, DNI Ratcliffe. By the way, who else has been making such claims about fraudulent ballots?

Why, Trump has, of course. And so has his attorney general, William P. Barr. And so has the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr.

The wretched meaning of this is further underscored by the video that Iran has allegedly circulated. It’s not available now because Twitter suspended the account where it had been posted.

But The Post viewed the video:

The video, which was reviewed by The Washington Post, shows Trump making disparaging comments about mail-in voting, followed by a logo with the name of the Proud Boys. It then documents what was made to appear as a hack of voting data in an effort to produce a fraudulent ballot.

So, to be as clear as possible, this video circulated by Iran, which Ratcliffe has denounced for spreading false information about voter fraud, features Trump himself making such claims.

Indeed, claims that Ratcliffe here denounces as disinformation from a hostile foreign power — that balloting fraud is a serious problem, including from overseas, which necessarily means vote-by-mail — are ones that the president of the United States and his attorney general make on a regular basis.

These false assertions are absolutely central to Trump’s endgame in this election. He has insisted that because of mail-vote fraud, the election cannot render a legitimate outcome in which he loses. And he’s openly telegraphed that he’ll use this idea to try to invalidate untold numbers of ballots.

What’s more, Barr has echoed these falsehoods. Barr has repeatedly hyped bogus instances of voter fraud and has insisted that mail voting is susceptible to foreign counterfeiting of ballots.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump Jr. has stated as fact that “millions” of mail ballots will inevitably be faked as part of a scheme to steal the election from his father, and has even used this to mobilize Trump supporters for a sustained struggle over the results.

Yet now Trump’s own DNI has flatly stated that all this is nonsense.

I ran this by Joshua Geltzer, the senior counterterrorism director at the National Security Council from 2015 to 2017. He noted that Ratcliffe, perhaps without realizing it, has now badly complicated Trump’s ability to make this claim going forward.

“Ratcliffe himself just put this in a bucket of falsity, despite Trump being the one to say it all the time,” Geltzer told me.

Trump’s appearance in the video spread by Iran shows that “foreign actors don’t need to cook up disinformation,” Geltzer continued. “They just need to amplify the president of the United States.”

“Then when his own cabinet talks about foreign disinformation, they’re actually talking about things the president has said,” Geltzer noted.


On top of all this, Ratcliffe also confirmed that this disinformation about voter fraud is designed to “cause confusion, sow chaos and undermine your confidence in American democracy,” as he told reporters.

Trump says this stuff constantly. But now his own DNI has confirmed that it’s actively harmful to the national interest.

“He’s saying the circulation of precisely this sort of claim that Trump makes all the time is bad for American democracy and for the United States,” Geltzer concluded.

Trump will surely make these claims countless more times going forward, including at the final debate. Perhaps the moderator might consider asking Trump what he thinks about his own DNI’s assertion that they’re disinformation, and that they’re bad for our country."

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:37 pm
by Matnum PI
The Relentless Shrinking of Trump’s Base https://nyti.ms/2TtmJa5

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:37 pm
by Brooklyn
Orange Douche and the company he keeps along with forum right wing delusionals:


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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:42 pm
by jhu72

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:44 am
by Brooklyn
jhu72 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:42 pm Another step towards totalitarianism.


The directive, issued late Wednesday, strips long-held civil service protections from employees whose work involves policymaking, allowing them to be dismissed with little cause or recourse, much like the political appointees who come and go with each administration.


He needs to extend that to himself. This way we can more readily Dump the Chump tRUMP.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:48 am
by Brooklyn
the "Chosen":


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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:58 am
by Brooklyn
Orange Douche - the Cheato Bandito:


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Sexism, racism, bribery, frauds of every kind ... just pathetic.


https://thedailyedge.substack.com/p/the ... ce=twitter

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:57 am
by seacoaster
This tweet contains the Lincoln Project's response to Mark Kasowitz, Kushner's and Ivanka's attorney, who threated the LP with a defamation suit due to the billboards. Note, in particular, footnote 7 of the response:

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/stat ... 1947846656