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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:10 am
by ABV 8.3%
holmes435 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:46 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:22 amAny graphs on suicide "trends" ? How about Mayor Bloombergs pet peeve.......FAT people. People getting fatter, or thinner, staying at home? Suddenly THAT doesn't matter?

All your posts seem "agenda-less", btw......eye roll

A 88 old, dying of cancer.....I mean....covid, is heartbreaking? NO....it's expected.

Kids getting killed by gunfire, whether by police, neighbors or wacko's.....THAT is heartbreaking.

IN other words, where is the graph on DEATHS in the Tampa area, for those aged 49, or younger?
My posts aren't agenda-less, I just like pointing out people's hypocrisy and willful ignorance. And the numbers are indeed heartbreaking.

As far as other causes of death, certainly they are lamentable, but THIS IS THE F-ING CORONAVIRUS THREAD, THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS :roll:
PPE's required at nursing homes yet?

exactly

the fear porn family in New Jersey/Philly area......were THEY wearing masks at these family gatherings? the fear porn, incomplete "news" stories just nevah say. Does it MATTER?

No one responds to EVENT 201, and the decades upon decades of the smartest people in the room, to prepare protocols. And yet, I am a hypocrite, for actually wanting to solve the problem, in the future. Like, maybe, gee, I don't know, prepare for the "2nd wave"

SO, I will ask again.

Are PPE's MANDATORY equipment for nursing homes, including assisted living? Has Cuomo made them legally manditory in the state of New York? That ALL "home" type facilities employees wear masks. Always.

Instead, we get daily avalanche junk about how it's ONE person fault.

Don't recall tRump being on the "players" list of event 201

Are we ready for the 2ND WAVE

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:18 am
by ABV 8.3%
So, have to ask. Are our medical and elder/infirm care facilities, are they ready for the "second WAVE" ?

Meaning, have they stockpiled PPE"s ?

Is there a "recommended" or required, PPE inventory count, per bed?

Have they established tracking procedures? Uniformed? CDC is on that, right?

Has Congress/POTUSA invoked any action requiring DRUGS and PPE's to be manufactured in the USA?

Is there a "top five" list of medicines to take, to stay healthy?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:03 am
by Peter Brown
holmes435 wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:22 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:14 pmYou should wear a mask even after the vaccine.
Florida is now seeing record hospitalizations and deaths are spiking with near record daily levels and rising.

You're killing Americans and Floridians. Florida Man in action.



Trusting our media leads one to simpleton status.

Florida’s hospitals are pretty much where they were a month ago despite 100,000+ #sarscov2 positive tests,


https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status ... 34881?s=21

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:08 am
by runrussellrun
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:03 am
holmes435 wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:22 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:14 pmYou should wear a mask even after the vaccine.
Florida is now seeing record hospitalizations and deaths are spiking with near record daily levels and rising.

You're killing Americans and Floridians. Florida Man in action.



Trusting our media leads one to simpleton status.

Florida’s hospitals are pretty much where they were a month ago despite 100,000+ #sarscov2 positive tests,


https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status ... 34881?s=21
Are drugs and PPE's being made in the USA, yes or no?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:10 am
by runrussellrun
holmes435 wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:22 am
Peter Brown wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:14 pmYou should wear a mask even after the vaccine.
Florida is now seeing record hospitalizations and deaths are spiking with near record daily levels and rising.

You're killing Americans and Floridians. Florida Man in action.
Yeah, Hampton Beach in New Hampshire is a ghost town....

...Cape Cod, the traffic is a breeze

Someone mentioned Outerbanks vacation home rentals doing fine....

Beaches of South Boston sit empty. No one running around Castle Island.

FEAR PORN........

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:14 am
by Peter Brown
Hey just last week MD was on here calling the Henry Ford Hospital study a joke. Weird I keep reading articles like this then:

https://www.sentinel-standard.com/news/ ... ents-lives

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:14 am
by seacoaster
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... update-us/

"President Trump said Saturday that his administration had “made a lot of progress” on controlling the novel coronavirus pandemic, even as the seven-day average of cases in the United States set a record for the 26th straight day.

Officials and health experts watched nervously to see whether July 4 gatherings would increase the spread while the virus continued to spiral out of control in much of the country, particularly in the South. Several states experienced record numbers of confirmed infections and hospitalizations.

Here are some significant developments:

Florida logged another daily high number of new cases. Hospitalizations in Arizona set a record. Intensive care unit capacity at the world’s largest medical center, in Houston, was exceeded at one point in the day.

Several California municipalities dismissed requests from higher governments to forgo fireworks shows or close beach parking lots to promote social distancing, local news outlets in the state reported.

In tweets earlier in the day, Trump correctly said the number of virus deaths and the rate of those deaths are declining. He also said that “If we didn’t test so much and so successfully, we would have very few cases” — a false statement that misleads because the rate of positive cases continues to rise in states showing a marked increase in infections.

Trump asserted in his speech at the White House that the country had “put out the flame” of the virus. He added that progress was being made on development of a vaccine, which experts say is unlikely to be widely available until late this year or early next year at the earliest.

Public health experts warned that the virus showed little sign of slowing, partly because of people going to bars and restaurants. Tom Frieden, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said young adults make up a significant share of new infections but added that the virus will spread to others.

“It’s worse, will continue to get worse, and will take months to improve substantially,” he said on Twitter. “We are going in the wrong direction, fast.”

The holiday weekend could be pivotal in the country’s efforts to contain the waves of infection that have swept across the country in recent weeks, testing whether sufficient numbers of Americans are prepared to abruptly alter their behavior to prevent the pandemic from spiraling further out of control. Infections spiked in several states after Memorial Day in May.

Nationwide, the rolling seven-day average for new cases was 48,361 on Saturday, up 11,740 from a week ago, according to tracking by The Washington Post. Eighteen states also reported new average highs.

Florida set another daily record for new infections, reporting 11,458 confirmed cases. The state has reported multiple daily records since late June, and the rate of positive test results has climbed into the double digits. Only New York has tallied more cases in a single day, with 11,571 on April 15.

Adding to Florida’s grim figures, six of the 10 U.S. counties that have seen the sharpest increases in coronavirus cases over the past week were in the Sunshine State, according to The Post’s tracking. They included the population hub of Miami-Dade County as well as several less-populated counties inland and along the Gulf Coast.

In Arizona, another hotbed for new infections, a record 3,113 patients were hospitalized with covid-19, up 100 from Friday. Ninety percent of the state’s intensive care unit beds and 85 percent of inpatient beds were in use, according to health officials.

Hospitals throughout hard-hit Texas were also filling quickly, with ICU use at Houston’s Texas Medical Center, the world’s largest hospital complex, at one point topping 100 percent. The state’s 7,890 hospitalizations set a record, while local judges in Hidalgo and Starr counties issued emergency alerts saying beds were full and urging the public to stay home.

Montana, South Carolina, Mississippi and California also reported new highs for hospitalizations.

Some California cities defied requests to clamp down on public gatherings that could spread the virus. Lancaster ignored a ban on fireworks from Los Angeles County health officials and signed a last-minute contract for a show Saturday evening, the Los Angeles Daily News reported. In the San Diego area, several municipalities kept their beach parking lots open, despite the state urging them to close, according to KPBS.

The country’s average daily death toll continued to wane — from 566 this time last week to 487 on Saturday — but experts warned that fatalities could trend upward again as more people fell ill.

On Friday, new infections nationwide reached another single-day high of 57,497, and at least 20 states set record highs for the average of new cases over seven days.

Faced with the soaring numbers, governors and mayors around the country canceled or scaled back Independence Day celebrations and pleaded with people to wear masks, maintain their distance and celebrate only with same-household groups.

“As a veteran, I can tell you patriotism is not about putting your own health or others’ health at risk,” Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards (D) said. “We can honor and celebrate our country in many ways, and I cannot think of anything more patriotic than doing so in a way that protects our family, friends and neighbors.”

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:50 am
by youthathletics
What is the point of the article? To keep the stranglehold on those also afraid of their shadow. Blame bars but not thousands upon thousands in a street, and yet South Korea is experiencing spikes even with mask wearing.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:59 am
by ABV 8.3%
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:50 am What is the point of the article? To keep the stranglehold on those also afraid of their shadow. Blame bars but not thousands upon thousands in a street, and yet South Korea is experiencing spikes even with mask wearing.
yesterday, One of the 4th parties was primarily homosexuals, most of them in the medical field. Their hate for tRump, and his family, was deep. TDS gone mexican carbox shot. ALL the deaths blamed on tRump.

Knowing, how to play crowds, brought the PPE inventory issue up. Where the production of PPE's happens. Drugs too.

I lied. I blamed ALL of these plans and ideas on the Joe Biden campaign. One of his "staffers" came up with a good plan, implemented after Joe is sworn in.

They bought it. All of the are on Fecesbook. other social media. Do you think they questioned that this plan is even real? That they asked any specifics?

NOPE....they were headline happy, that there "mite" be a plan, not concerned about PPE inventory, 2nd waves...., all that matters, is tRump gone.

TGS

tRump Gone Syndy

Planning for the 2nd Set

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:02 am
by ABV 8.3%
When the second set comes in, are we prepared?

Are experiences like EVENT 201 worthwhile? Have pandemic response scenarios proven to be valuable, this event included? If Event 201 provides no value, why do these meeting take place?

The silence regarding this topic proves that most of you are tRump only. you don't want to solve the PPE issue. You don't want to plan for the second wave.

Why?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:06 am
by wgdsr
because i believe supplies are robust enough.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:32 am
by CU88
Only 19 days have passed since Mike Pence assured us that there wasn't a 2nd wave and accused the media of hyping the danger.

Florida and Texas hit a record number of daily coronavirus cases on Saturday, respectively reporting 11,445 and 8,258 new cases in the last 24 hours, according to figures released by the states’ health departments.

The U.S. reported more than 52,000 new cases as the coronavirus spikes across the American South and West.

Even as Florida reports record case numbers, Gov. Ron DeSantis has said he won’t close businesses again and has repeatedly refused to order a statewide mask mandate to curb the spread of the virus.

“It’s clear that the growth is exponential at this point,” Miami Mayor Francis Suarez told ABC’s “This Week.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/04/florida ... ecord.html

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:38 am
by Typical Lax Dad
Event 201 was held in October of 2019. Virus was probably already spreading. Bill Gates was behind the spread.


Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:42 am
by CU88
Revealing open to CBS Face The Nation

Host Margaret Brennan says they wanted Dr. Anthony Fauci and CDC officials as guests, and for 3 months Trump has refused to let them go on the show.

Gee, I wonder why?

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:47 am
by Typical Lax Dad
Ask Fatty


Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:52 am
by seacoaster
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:50 am What is the point of the article? To keep the stranglehold on those also afraid of their shadow. Blame bars but not thousands upon thousands in a street, and yet South Korea is experiencing spikes even with mask wearing.
Well, I can think of a few points:

Provide a counterpoint to the Trump Administration's suggestion that all is well and that the virus will just "disappear, I hope;"

Drill home the message that certain types and places of interaction are more likely to spread the virus.

Reactions like yours are pretty disappointing; Americans are proving to be the silliest of citizens. Our strange and mis-comprehending devotion to individual rights above all else is actually harming our fellow citizens.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:58 am
by Typical Lax Dad
seacoaster wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:52 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:50 am What is the point of the article? To keep the stranglehold on those also afraid of their shadow. Blame bars but not thousands upon thousands in a street, and yet South Korea is experiencing spikes even with mask wearing.
Well, I can think of a few points:

Provide a counterpoint to the Trump Administration's suggestion that all is well and that the virus will just "disappear, I hope;"

Drill home the message that certain types and places of interaction are more likely to spread the virus.

Reactions like yours are pretty disappointing; Americans are proving to be the silliest of citizens. Our strange and mis-comprehending devotion to individual rights about all else is actually harming our fellow citizens.
You have a “right” to go to a bar and infect people.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:01 am
by MDlaxfan76
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:14 am Hey just last week MD was on here calling the Henry Ford Hospital study a joke. Weird I keep reading articles like this then:

https://www.sentinel-standard.com/news/ ... ents-lives
nope, I didn't call it a joke, that was another poster.
I actually said it was interesting, and potentially a positive roadmap, but not a double-blind controlled study.

I did say that anyone thinking this study had proven that HCQ actually works as a prophylactic measure, or was a 'cure', would be wrong.

Maybe, just maybe, it is helpful in combination with other drugs, at a specific time in the disease's progress and for some patients, though perhaps not others. And maybe that help is better than the help from alternative therapies.

Maybe. Deserves study? Sure.

Re: Obamacare can keep your daughter Alive & Healthy

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:27 am
by kramerica.inc
DocBarrister wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:02 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:01 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:49 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:15 pm And by “fix it” you mean cater to an even bigger generation of dependent crybabies than the boomers.
Every first world nation has managed to provide health care and university education and/or vocational training except the United States of America. Oh, and functioning borders with a reasonable, but not perfect, immigration and visa program.

We should be ashamed that this is what we're handing to our kids, in addition to our pathetic, selfish, short sighted Trillions in debt....with no infrastructure to show for it.

We've had 30 years to fix this problem. What have we done? Tax cuts, exploding health care and education costs, and completely gutted labor unions. That's the ex-hippie boomer legacy.

But they sure got theirs, right?
+1

Having travelled all across the EU, what countries have weaker borders Than the US?

Boomers realized labor unions are bad for Their 401k growth and real innovation. Gotta get rid of em. Want to keep the US growth at a slower pace? Enable labor unions. Want to have poor education system? Enable teacher unions.

Boomers are the biggest sellouts in US history to date.
Labor unions worked hard decades ago to establish higher standards for employment benefits, including their health care plans.

It’s those higher-standard labor union health care benefits that eventually laid the foundations for the “Cadillac” health insurance plans that private employers like mine provide to their employees ...

... the kind of health insurance plan that keeps my special needs daughter alive and healthy.

So, one can probably guess what I think of folks who have a poor understanding of how we have all benefited from the hard fights fought and won by labor unions.

DocBarrister
Slow clap from me. Very impassioned case. You threw in some personal detail, mentioned “special needs.”

But it still doesn’t make it relevant.

Labor unions are a dinosaur that has outlived its usefulness. Those overpaid Health benefits are a thing of the past. You can use Obamacare for all her needs.

Want to see where many, many lazy, unmotivated employees hide these days? Look at your local union. Second only to the Federal government.

Re: Obamacare can keep your daughter Alive & Healthy

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:31 am
by Typical Lax Dad
kramerica.inc wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:27 am
DocBarrister wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:02 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:01 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:49 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:15 pm And by “fix it” you mean cater to an even bigger generation of dependent crybabies than the boomers.
Every first world nation has managed to provide health care and university education and/or vocational training except the United States of America. Oh, and functioning borders with a reasonable, but not perfect, immigration and visa program.

We should be ashamed that this is what we're handing to our kids, in addition to our pathetic, selfish, short sighted Trillions in debt....with no infrastructure to show for it.

We've had 30 years to fix this problem. What have we done? Tax cuts, exploding health care and education costs, and completely gutted labor unions. That's the ex-hippie boomer legacy.

But they sure got theirs, right?
+1

Having travelled all across the EU, what countries have weaker borders Than the US?

Boomers realized labor unions are bad for Their 401k growth and real innovation. Gotta get rid of em. Want to keep the US growth at a slower pace? Enable labor unions. Want to have poor education system? Enable teacher unions.

Boomers are the biggest sellouts in US history to date.
Labor unions worked hard decades ago to establish higher standards for employment benefits, including their health care plans.

It’s those higher-standard labor union health care benefits that eventually laid the foundations for the “Cadillac” health insurance plans that private employers like mine provide to their employees ...

... the kind of health insurance plan that keeps my special needs daughter alive and healthy.

So, one can probably guess what I think of folks who have a poor understanding of how we have all benefited from the hard fights fought and won by labor unions.

DocBarrister
Slow clap from me. Very impassioned case. You threw in some personal detail, mentioned “special needs.”

But it still doesn’t make it relevant.

Labor unions are a dinosaur that has outlived its usefulness. Those overpaid Health benefits are a thing of the past. You can use Obamacare for all her needs.

Want to see where many, many lazy, unmotivated employees hide these days? Look at your local union. Second only to the Federal government.
NFL players Union
MLB players Union
NBA players Union
NHL Players Union

What do they all have in common? Those dudes are all relative wealthy. Unions seem to work for them. You think they are better or worse off without a Union?

https://www.gq.com/story/nba-players-union