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ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
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ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
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jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am
ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
I believe Gen. Kelly 100 percent. Trump's ranting and raving about Gen Kelly is odd, considering all the glowing praise he had for him at first. A man of Gen. Kelly's integrity would never make such a comment about a sitting POTUS if it was not deserved.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:19 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am
ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
I believe Gen. Kelly 100 percent. Trump's ranting and raving about Gen Kelly is odd, considering all the glowing praise he had for him at first. A man of Gen. Kelly's integrity would never make such a comment about a sitting POTUS if it was not deserved.
Yup, it's deserved.

72, I get the POS, however you'd welcome him going on 60 Minutes tonight and looking directly in the camera and saying this, right?

That he won't only bolsters your point of view.

I'm not saying he would deserve a total pass for not doing so, way, way earlier, but even now is not too late to at least be welcomed.
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historian Steven Beschloss
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If Trump loses in a crushing defeat, I’m beginning to think less about how he might incite violence and more about how he might slip quietly out of the country to save himself from the inevitability of criminal prosecution.


https://twitter.com/StevenBeschloss/sta ... 5107243009
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:19 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am
ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
I believe Gen. Kelly 100 percent. Trump's ranting and raving about Gen Kelly is odd, considering all the glowing praise he had for him at first. A man of Gen. Kelly's integrity would never make such a comment about a sitting POTUS if it was not deserved.
Yup, it's deserved.

72, I get the POS, however you'd welcome him going on 60 Minutes tonight and looking directly in the camera and saying this, right?

That he won't only bolsters your point of view.

I'm not saying he would deserve a total pass for not doing so, way, way earlier, but even now is not too late to at least be welcomed.
... I am more impressed and thankful for all the little people who have been saying it all along. All these republicans, who have played an enabling role, now coming out, saying what has been obvious to the least observant among the little people, since day one, are cowards! Welcomed yes, to be rewarded, hell no! After saying it, he should retire from public life and keep is f*ing mouth shut for the remainder of his life, he is well practiced in silence, when his country hung in the balance.
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Brooklyn wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:28 am historian Steven Beschloss
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If Trump loses in a crushing defeat, I’m beginning to think less about how he might incite violence and more about how he might slip quietly out of the country to save himself from the inevitability of criminal prosecution.


https://twitter.com/StevenBeschloss/sta ... 5107243009
This is my prediction, has been since he took office. It is totally in character.
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jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:04 am
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:28 am historian Steven Beschloss
@StevenBeschloss



If Trump loses in a crushing defeat, I’m beginning to think less about how he might incite violence and more about how he might slip quietly out of the country to save himself from the inevitability of criminal prosecution.


https://twitter.com/StevenBeschloss/sta ... 5107243009
This is my prediction, has been since he took office. It is totally in character.



It would come as no surprise to me considering tRUMP's criminal past:


https://www.amazon.com/House-Trump-Puti ... 152474350X
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jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:03 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:19 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am
ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
I believe Gen. Kelly 100 percent. Trump's ranting and raving about Gen Kelly is odd, considering all the glowing praise he had for him at first. A man of Gen. Kelly's integrity would never make such a comment about a sitting POTUS if it was not deserved.
Yup, it's deserved.

72, I get the POS, however you'd welcome him going on 60 Minutes tonight and looking directly in the camera and saying this, right?

That he won't only bolsters your point of view.

I'm not saying he would deserve a total pass for not doing so, way, way earlier, but even now is not too late to at least be welcomed.
... I am more impressed and thankful for all the little people who have been saying it all along. All these republicans, who have played an enabling role, now coming out, saying what has been obvious to the least observant among the little people, since day one, are cowards! Welcomed yes, to be rewarded, hell no! After saying it, he should retire from public life and keep is f*ing mouth shut for the remainder of his life, he is well practiced in silence, when his country hung in the balance.
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jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:03 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:19 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am
ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
I believe Gen. Kelly 100 percent. Trump's ranting and raving about Gen Kelly is odd, considering all the glowing praise he had for him at first. A man of Gen. Kelly's integrity would never make such a comment about a sitting POTUS if it was not deserved.
Yup, it's deserved.

72, I get the POS, however you'd welcome him going on 60 Minutes tonight and looking directly in the camera and saying this, right?

That he won't only bolsters your point of view.

I'm not saying he would deserve a total pass for not doing so, way, way earlier, but even now is not too late to at least be welcomed.
... I am more impressed and thankful for all the little people who have been saying it all along. All these republicans, who have played an enabling role, now coming out, saying what has been obvious to the least observant among the little people, since day one, are cowards! Welcomed yes, to be rewarded, hell no! After saying it, he should retire from public life and keep is f*ing mouth shut for the remainder of his life, he is well practiced in silence, when his country hung in the balance.
You don't understand the mindset of military people such as Gen Kelly. They NEVER say derogatory remarks about a sitting POTUS. For that matter they never say anything about any former CiC that they may have served under. It is not out of character for you to look a gift horse in the mouth. Even when your side wins you are too effing smart for your own good to understand what just happened. :roll:
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:16 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:03 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:19 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am
ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
I believe Gen. Kelly 100 percent. Trump's ranting and raving about Gen Kelly is odd, considering all the glowing praise he had for him at first. A man of Gen. Kelly's integrity would never make such a comment about a sitting POTUS if it was not deserved.
Yup, it's deserved.

72, I get the POS, however you'd welcome him going on 60 Minutes tonight and looking directly in the camera and saying this, right?

That he won't only bolsters your point of view.

I'm not saying he would deserve a total pass for not doing so, way, way earlier, but even now is not too late to at least be welcomed.
... I am more impressed and thankful for all the little people who have been saying it all along. All these republicans, who have played an enabling role, now coming out, saying what has been obvious to the least observant among the little people, since day one, are cowards! Welcomed yes, to be rewarded, hell no! After saying it, he should retire from public life and keep is f*ing mouth shut for the remainder of his life, he is well practiced in silence, when his country hung in the balance.
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Wow, for the first time since I remember MD is at a loss for words. :lol:
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:02 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:16 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:03 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:19 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am
ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
I believe Gen. Kelly 100 percent. Trump's ranting and raving about Gen Kelly is odd, considering all the glowing praise he had for him at first. A man of Gen. Kelly's integrity would never make such a comment about a sitting POTUS if it was not deserved.
Yup, it's deserved.

72, I get the POS, however you'd welcome him going on 60 Minutes tonight and looking directly in the camera and saying this, right?

That he won't only bolsters your point of view.

I'm not saying he would deserve a total pass for not doing so, way, way earlier, but even now is not too late to at least be welcomed.
... I am more impressed and thankful for all the little people who have been saying it all along. All these republicans, who have played an enabling role, now coming out, saying what has been obvious to the least observant among the little people, since day one, are cowards! Welcomed yes, to be rewarded, hell no! After saying it, he should retire from public life and keep is f*ing mouth shut for the remainder of his life, he is well practiced in silence, when his country hung in the balance.
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Wow, for the first time since I remember MD is at a loss for words. :lol:
;) I simply understand, and largely agree with, his view on Kelly and others who could/should have stepped up sooner.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:48 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:03 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:19 am
jhu72 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:59 am
ggait wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm Former WH Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly:

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends,

Seems like most people who work for Trump get infected with TDS and/or Covid.
... Kelly is another one who get NO credit for his brave stand long after it matters. Just one more POS.
I believe Gen. Kelly 100 percent. Trump's ranting and raving about Gen Kelly is odd, considering all the glowing praise he had for him at first. A man of Gen. Kelly's integrity would never make such a comment about a sitting POTUS if it was not deserved.
Yup, it's deserved.

72, I get the POS, however you'd welcome him going on 60 Minutes tonight and looking directly in the camera and saying this, right?

That he won't only bolsters your point of view.

I'm not saying he would deserve a total pass for not doing so, way, way earlier, but even now is not too late to at least be welcomed.
... I am more impressed and thankful for all the little people who have been saying it all along. All these republicans, who have played an enabling role, now coming out, saying what has been obvious to the least observant among the little people, since day one, are cowards! Welcomed yes, to be rewarded, hell no! After saying it, he should retire from public life and keep is f*ing mouth shut for the remainder of his life, he is well practiced in silence, when his country hung in the balance.
You don't understand the mindset of military people such as Gen Kelly. They NEVER say derogatory remarks about a sitting POTUS. For that matter they never say anything about any former CiC that they may have served under. It is not out of character for you to look a gift horse in the mouth. Even when your side wins you are too effing smart for your own good to understand what just happened. :roll:
Actually, he's quoted by his friends very bluntly, meaning he very definitely says "derogatory remarks"...and there's no way that gets out if he did not intend for it. Or he should deny it entirely.

He has some plausible deniability, but we haven't heard any denial by him.

And it sure is clear that Trump believes Kelly said exactly as quoted... :D
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I think the Kelly thing will be part of the CNN show tonight at 9 Eastern...
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RedFromMI wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:46 pm I think the Kelly thing will be part of the CNN show tonight at 9 Eastern...
But will Kelly appear?
He'll definitely be discussed, but will he be on camera?

You'd think they'd tease that harder if yes.

They did say "and others"....

As it is, it's going to quite an array of folks.
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Kelly's consistent MO has been to let others leak/tell things that Kelly feels/says/saw. And then, when the stories come out, to remain silent.

Which is a de facto confirmation of the stories.

Add to that the fact that Kelly has publicly backed up other Trump critics like Mattis and Vindman. And also add Kelly's comments to (of all people) The Mooch about how we need to look more at the ethics/character of our leaders (but naming no names).

The picture is crystal clear. Even if Kelly (for whatever reason) has declined to go on 60 Minutes and declare that Trump is the worst person on planet Earth.
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ggait wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:56 am Kelly's consistent MO has been to let others leak/tell things that Kelly feels/says/saw. And then, when the stories come out, to remain silent.

Which is a de facto confirmation of the stories.

Add to that the fact that Kelly has publicly backed up other Trump critics like Mattis and Vindman. And also add Kelly's comments to (of all people) The Mooch about how we need to look more at the ethics/character of our leaders (but naming no names).

The picture is crystal clear. Even if Kelly (for whatever reason) has declined to go on 60 Minutes and declare that Trump is the worst person on planet Earth.
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