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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:06 pm
by Peter Brown
Man, that Ron DeSantis went to New York and demanded all these 'protesters' assemble in large gatherings!

https://twitter.com/JosephSHRogers/stat ... 58464?s=20

Clearly the upcoming spike in NY is due to Ron DeSantis. Wonder how he got to California and caused their spike as well!

The clown car known as Democrats is full but taking on new riders if you wish to get onboard...just blame DeSantis (who has the best Covid performance of any large state by far) for anything bad anywhere, even if it didn't happen!

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:15 pm
by 6ftstick
a fan wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:01 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:51 pm SO a generation of weed whacking adolescents that can't keep their d*cks in their pants is not the problem. People opposed to the behavior are.

dumb ass pro-life fiscal conservative theocrat Republicans—6 pejorative adjectives

Irresponsible personal behavior—0

Is it any wonder we're where we are at. Enablers such as yourself.
6foot, in what world is educating adolescents about the dangers of unprotected sex.....and/or without birth control, and then providing said teenagers with free birth control that they use.....enabling irresponsible behavior?

It's doing the exact opposite. It's teaching them about responsible living. Moreover, it stops the abortions that you claim bothers you so much.

I am at a complete loss as to why you wouldn't be jumping for joy for a National program like this.


But Ggait is apparently right----you guys don't want to do this. I don't get it. Not even a little. I have NO CLUE why you think it's better to teach them nothing at all.....
No ones educating them about the "dangers of unprotected sex." They're enabling it. And has nothing to do with peersonal responsibility. It absolves them of it.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:22 pm
by CU77
a fan wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:01 pm 6foot, in what world is educating adolescents about the dangers of unprotected sex.....and/or without birth control, and then providing said teenagers with free birth control that they use.....enabling irresponsible behavior?
Have you not figured out the big secret, a fan?

Those crusading against abortion are actually crusading against any kind of sex outside of a one-man-one-woman marriage.

They want to control sex. They don't care one bit about first-trimester fetuses. That's just a cover.

Want proof?

If life begins at conception, where are all the funerals for miscarriages? Where are the headstones? Where are the tax deductions for pre-born children? Where are all the "Conception Day" parties?

Why did Catholic (and other Christian) theologians argue for centuries about "quickening" and "soul infusion", with basically none of them saying it happened at conception?

Ask any anti-abortion crusader if they would be happy if a vaccine were developed that blocked both pregnancy and all sexually-transmitted disease. Anyone who actually cares about the fetuses would be thrilled by this. No more unwanted pregnancies! But I promise you that every anti-abortion crusader recoils in horror at this prospect. Because it means sex will happen that they cannot control.

That's the real issue the crusaders care about. The fetuses are just misdirection.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:23 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:58 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:47 pm
Bart wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:00 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:31 pm
Bart wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:47 am
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:13 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:48 am
Darwinism isn’t about caring or not caring like you posit. It’s caring enough to respect your choices and not pretending that life is fair.

Over the years scholars have drawn parallels between Darwinism and Hitlerianism. No surprise that right wing Republicans applaud both.
And that, imo,is idiotic.
Explain ...
Darwinism is the evolution of species due to small changes in inherited characteristics due to natural selection. Where minor changes in genotyes lead to small incremental changes in phenotye that lead to increased reproductive success.

This has nothing to do with the views Hitler and his ilk suscribed to. Their theories were on the lines of social Darwinism which was used to support thir master race bull sczhit.

Darwinism used in the original context of these posts was incorrect, imo.
Pretty sure that was what Brooklyn meant as well...the bastardization of "Darwinism" into some sort of embrace of Aryan racial superiority, 'survival of the fittest', etc...'social Darwinism' as scientifically based and thus justified.

Unfortunately, PB has no clue what he's even saying with "Darwinism isn’t about caring or not caring like you posit. It’s caring enough to respect your choices and not pretending that life is fair."


What I meant is I respect people enough to let them make their own choices, for better or worse. Many will choose unwisely...meth, masks, Dr. Pepper, fried okra, being a Democrat, etc. And if they croak early because of their bad choices, that's Darwinism; humanity gets smarter every day because of Darwinism. I'm good with anyone making bad choices; I'm also good with them making good choices. Who am I to tell anyone what to do?

At the end of the day, you only have the mental and emotional bandwidth to make sure your family, friends, neighbors, and colleagues are in good shape. If you think you know what is best for much more than that, you're clinically insane and mightily arrogant.

It's why Democrats who fascistically strie to impose gun control on a bunch of good ol' boy farmers in Georgia is met with such deserved ridicule, and the normals in America applaud from the bleacher seats as they mock the Dems.
Darwinism has zero to do with such idiocy, Pete.

We have the ability to care about how we affect one another. We form governments so that we can make decisions collectively, not simply have anarchy. We make rules that benefit us all, so that we can more efficiently and effectively go about our own pursuit of happiness, etc. We constrain this process here in the US in all sorts of ways so that power does not reside too centrally or unchecked, however we do make rules that govern us.

Back to the virus and mask wearing, and your 'Darwinism', do you think your family, friends, colleagues etc should die because some knuckleheads don't care about them and make bad decisions? You do realize that what is happening with this rapid spread ultimately puts us all at risk, not just those who are getting infected at the moment? Do you not realize the enormous economic costs of needing to reverse course on reopening the economy if this blows up because too many idiots refuse to wear masks, distance, etc?

You crowed at how all the restaurants and bars in Florida (at least in your area) were jammed with patrons about 6 weeks ago...

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:25 pm
by MDlaxfan76
CU77 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:22 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:01 pm 6foot, in what world is educating adolescents about the dangers of unprotected sex.....and/or without birth control, and then providing said teenagers with free birth control that they use.....enabling irresponsible behavior?
Have you not figured out the big secret, a fan?

Those crusading against abortion are actually crusading against any kind of sex outside of a one-man-one-woman marriage.

They want to control sex. They don't care one bit about first-trimester fetuses. That's just a cover.

Want proof?

If life begins at conception, where are all the funerals for miscarriages? Where are the headstones? Where are the tax deductions for pre-born children? Where are all the "Conception Day" parties?

Why did Catholic (and other Christian) theologians argue for centuries about "quickening" and "soul infusion", with basically none of them saying it happened at conception?

Ask any anti-abortion crusader if they would be happy if a vaccine were developed that blocked both pregnancy and all sexually-transmitted disease. Anyone who actually cares about the fetuses would be thrilled by this. No more unwanted pregnancies! But I promise you that every anti-abortion crusader recoils in horror at this prospect. Because it means sex will happen that they cannot control.

That's the real issue the crusaders care about. The fetuses are just misdirection.
That's true of the 6ft types, not so sure about the cradle types.
But he can confirm for himself or not whether he has an issue with premarital sex, contraception, etc.

6ft clearly didn't get any...

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:36 pm
by kramerica.inc
Corona numbers may be climbing but nationally, we had the lowest number of deaths on a Sunday since early March.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:14 pm
by 6ftstick
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:25 pm
CU77 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:22 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:01 pm 6foot, in what world is educating adolescents about the dangers of unprotected sex.....and/or without birth control, and then providing said teenagers with free birth control that they use.....enabling irresponsible behavior?
Have you not figured out the big secret, a fan?

Those crusading against abortion are actually crusading against any kind of sex outside of a one-man-one-woman marriage.

They want to control sex. They don't care one bit about first-trimester fetuses. That's just a cover.

Want proof?

If life begins at conception, where are all the funerals for miscarriages? Where are the headstones? Where are the tax deductions for pre-born children? Where are all the "Conception Day" parties?

Why did Catholic (and other Christian) theologians argue for centuries about "quickening" and "soul infusion", with basically none of them saying it happened at conception?

Ask any anti-abortion crusader if they would be happy if a vaccine were developed that blocked both pregnancy and all sexually-transmitted disease. Anyone who actually cares about the fetuses would be thrilled by this. No more unwanted pregnancies! But I promise you that every anti-abortion crusader recoils in horror at this prospect. Because it means sex will happen that they cannot control.

That's the real issue the crusaders care about. The fetuses are just misdirection.
That's true of the 6ft types, not so sure about the cradle types.
But he can confirm for himself or not whether he has an issue with premarital sex, contraception, etc.

6ft clearly didn't get any...
So this is about machismo for you. I've been laid so I'm a man?

In essence you want kids uneducated poor and banging baby mommas. An enlightened position from an educated fossil.

Insulting my manhood get you off a little.

For the record you and yours are responsible for 65 MILLION stopped hearts since roe v wade. I'm sure you're proud of yourself.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:20 pm
by youthathletics
kramerica.inc wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:36 pm Corona numbers may be climbing but nationally, we had the lowest number of deaths on a Sunday since early March.
Be careful.....optimism is not liked around here, unless it involves Trump going down. ;)

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:27 pm
by Peter Brown
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:23 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:58 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:47 pm
Bart wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:00 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:31 pm
Bart wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:47 am
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:13 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:48 am
Darwinism isn’t about caring or not caring like you posit. It’s caring enough to respect your choices and not pretending that life is fair.

Over the years scholars have drawn parallels between Darwinism and Hitlerianism. No surprise that right wing Republicans applaud both.
And that, imo,is idiotic.
Explain ...
Darwinism is the evolution of species due to small changes in inherited characteristics due to natural selection. Where minor changes in genotyes lead to small incremental changes in phenotye that lead to increased reproductive success.

This has nothing to do with the views Hitler and his ilk suscribed to. Their theories were on the lines of social Darwinism which was used to support thir master race bull sczhit.

Darwinism used in the original context of these posts was incorrect, imo.
Pretty sure that was what Brooklyn meant as well...the bastardization of "Darwinism" into some sort of embrace of Aryan racial superiority, 'survival of the fittest', etc...'social Darwinism' as scientifically based and thus justified.

Unfortunately, PB has no clue what he's even saying with "Darwinism isn’t about caring or not caring like you posit. It’s caring enough to respect your choices and not pretending that life is fair."


What I meant is I respect people enough to let them make their own choices, for better or worse. Many will choose unwisely...meth, masks, Dr. Pepper, fried okra, being a Democrat, etc. And if they croak early because of their bad choices, that's Darwinism; humanity gets smarter every day because of Darwinism. I'm good with anyone making bad choices; I'm also good with them making good choices. Who am I to tell anyone what to do?

At the end of the day, you only have the mental and emotional bandwidth to make sure your family, friends, neighbors, and colleagues are in good shape. If you think you know what is best for much more than that, you're clinically insane and mightily arrogant.

It's why Democrats who fascistically strie to impose gun control on a bunch of good ol' boy farmers in Georgia is met with such deserved ridicule, and the normals in America applaud from the bleacher seats as they mock the Dems.
Darwinism has zero to do with such idiocy, Pete.

We have the ability to care about how we affect one another. We form governments so that we can make decisions collectively, not simply have anarchy. We make rules that benefit us all, so that we can more efficiently and effectively go about our own pursuit of happiness, etc. We constrain this process here in the US in all sorts of ways so that power does not reside too centrally or unchecked, however we do make rules that govern us.

Back to the virus and mask wearing, and your 'Darwinism', do you think your family, friends, colleagues etc should die because some knuckleheads don't care about them and make bad decisions? You do realize that what is happening with this rapid spread ultimately puts us all at risk, not just those who are getting infected at the moment? Do you not realize the enormous economic costs of needing to reverse course on reopening the economy if this blows up because too many idiots refuse to wear masks, distance, etc?

You crowed at how all the restaurants and bars in Florida (at least in your area) were jammed with patrons about 6 weeks ago...

Restaurants still busy, relatively speaking. But please note that Florida has cleared out by now for the summer months except for major cities like Orlando, Miami, and The Villages.

That last bit is a joke in case no one is laughing.

Also, Cuomo should be in jail right now even though Fanlax Dems adore him. Shows how warped our media is.

Next.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:28 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:14 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:25 pm
CU77 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:22 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:01 pm 6foot, in what world is educating adolescents about the dangers of unprotected sex.....and/or without birth control, and then providing said teenagers with free birth control that they use.....enabling irresponsible behavior?
Have you not figured out the big secret, a fan?

Those crusading against abortion are actually crusading against any kind of sex outside of a one-man-one-woman marriage.

They want to control sex. They don't care one bit about first-trimester fetuses. That's just a cover.

Want proof?

If life begins at conception, where are all the funerals for miscarriages? Where are the headstones? Where are the tax deductions for pre-born children? Where are all the "Conception Day" parties?

Why did Catholic (and other Christian) theologians argue for centuries about "quickening" and "soul infusion", with basically none of them saying it happened at conception?

Ask any anti-abortion crusader if they would be happy if a vaccine were developed that blocked both pregnancy and all sexually-transmitted disease. Anyone who actually cares about the fetuses would be thrilled by this. No more unwanted pregnancies! But I promise you that every anti-abortion crusader recoils in horror at this prospect. Because it means sex will happen that they cannot control.

That's the real issue the crusaders care about. The fetuses are just misdirection.
That's true of the 6ft types, not so sure about the cradle types.
But he can confirm for himself or not whether he has an issue with premarital sex, contraception, etc.

6ft clearly didn't get any...
So this is about machismo for you. I've been laid so I'm a man?

In essence you want kids uneducated poor and banging baby mommas. An enlightened position from an educated fossil.

Insulting my manhood get you off a little.

For the record you and yours are responsible for 65 MILLION stopped hearts since roe v wade. I'm sure you're proud of yourself.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... ing/?amp=1

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:31 pm
by Brooklyn
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:47 pm

Pretty sure that was what Brooklyn meant as well...the bastardization of "Darwinism" into some sort of embrace of Aryan racial superiority, 'survival of the fittest', etc...'social Darwinism' as scientifically based and thus justified.

Unfortunately, PB has no clue what he's even saying with "Darwinism isn’t about caring or not caring like you posit. It’s caring enough to respect your choices and not pretending that life is fair."


Yep.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:34 pm
by Brooklyn
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:27 pm Restaurants still busy, relatively speaking. But please note that Florida has cleared out by now for the summer months except for major cities like Orlando, Miami, and The Villages.

That last bit is a joke in case no one is laughing.

Also, Cuomo should be in jail right now even though Fanlax Dems adore him. Shows how warped our media is.

Next.

If Cuomo belongs in jail over the way he handled the crisis in his state, tRUMP belongs in permanent exile in Devil's Island.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:37 pm
by youthathletics
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:34 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:27 pm Restaurants still busy, relatively speaking. But please note that Florida has cleared out by now for the summer months except for major cities like Orlando, Miami, and The Villages.

That last bit is a joke in case no one is laughing.

Also, Cuomo should be in jail right now even though Fanlax Dems adore him. Shows how warped our media is.

Next.

If Cuomo belongs in jail over the way he handled the crisis in his state, tRUMP belongs in permanent exile in Devil's Island.
I thought Trump was the devil? :evil: :lol:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:40 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:43 pm
by ggait
Corona numbers may be climbing but nationally, we had the lowest number of deaths on a Sunday since early March.
Likely because the demo of positive tests now is 35 vs. 65 two months ago. But here's what we don't know:

1. How much lower will the mortality rate be among the current infected?
2. How high up will the infections go?
3. How many people will all those young immortals infect?
4. What kind of people will get infected by the young immortals?
5. What measures will people and govts take in the coming weeks?

Check back in 3-4 weeks and we will know the answers. Positive tests are the leading indicator; deaths are the trailing indicator.

Lots of moving parts. TBH, no one knows for sure where this is headed.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:52 pm
by Brooklyn
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:37 pm
I thought Trump was the devil? :evil: :lol:


He is: Image

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:19 pm
by a fan
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:15 pm No ones educating them about the "dangers of unprotected sex." They're enabling it.
What are you talking about? There isn't a single program----or human being, for that matter---that advocates for these kids to have unprotected sex.
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:15 pm And has nothing to do with peersonal responsibility. It absolves them of it.
Even if this is true (it's not)-----what do you care?

I thought the problem was abortion? What the F do you care about whether someone's kid meets your idea of "responsible"? Why give it a moment's thought?

Your position is simply not reasonable. If you REALLY cared about those abortions, and REALLY thought they were murder? You'd simply do everything in your power to keep those unwanted pregnancies from happening. Sex ed. Free contraception. It works.

Your team isn't making any sense here, Six.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:01 am
by CU77
a fan wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:19 pm Your team isn't making any sense here, Six.
Duh! I already explained it to you.
CU77 wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:22 pm Those crusading against abortion are actually crusading against any kind of sex outside of a one-man-one-woman marriage.

They want to control sex. They don't care one bit about first-trimester fetuses. That's just a cover.

Want proof?

If life begins at conception, where are all the funerals for miscarriages? Where are the headstones? Where are the tax deductions for pre-born children? Where are all the "Conception Day" parties?

Why did Catholic (and other Christian) theologians argue for centuries about "quickening" and "soul infusion", with basically none of them saying it happened at conception?

Ask any anti-abortion crusader if they would be happy if a vaccine were developed that blocked both pregnancy and all sexually-transmitted disease. Anyone who actually cares about the fetuses would be thrilled by this. No more unwanted pregnancies! But I promise you that every anti-abortion crusader recoils in horror at this prospect. Because it means sex will happen that they cannot control.

That's the real issue the crusaders care about. The fetuses are just misdirection.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:03 am
by CU77

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:09 am
by DocBarrister
CU77 wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:03 am
Donald Trump has recklessly gambled with American lives during this pandemic ... and as a result, American deaths will total around 200,000 or more by the end of the year.

He recklessly opened the economy up too soon for his own political interests, and that gamble is a catastrophic failure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/us/c ... e=Homepage

The pandemic is completely out of control in the United States.

Those of you who continue to support Trump are betraying the nation.

We are at nearly 130,000 deaths after four months ... and counting. Those of you who continue to support Trump are morally culpable for this tragedy.

DocBarrister