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dislaxxic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:52 pm Loved Chris Murphy's time this morning...a bunch of GREAT points about how, after Trump initiated the drawdown and made agreements with the Taliban, that the process was set in motion in a way that - once the ASF and gubmint began to crumble - the only way to stem that was to re-insert thousands more forces into the country to alter that pre-ordained trajectory...

Let's subpoena Mike Pompeo into a seat in front of that committee and swear him in to hear what he has to say about this period of time...who knew what when...and what the thinking was going into (and coming out of) "talks" with the Taliban...that moron wouldn't come before Congress in a million years...

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dislaxxic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:52 pm...that the process was set in motion in a way that - once the ASF and gubmint began to crumble - the only way to stem that was to re-insert thousands more forces into the country to alter that pre-ordained trajectory...

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:40 am So when President Reagan spent all that money to upgrade our military.. was that a mistake? We have a poster on this forum who has forever ripped on Reagan for all the money he spent.

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:35 pm Biden wanted to leave, so there was NO WAY he was going to "reverse" that process, started by the Orange Cheeto. They extended the timeframe, DID actually to planning (the military and diplomatic bureaucracies did) and they got a bunch of it wrong, thanks to a crumbling ASF.

Go ahead, stick it all on Joe if it let's you sleep at night, Cranky.

Have you listened to ANY of today's Blinken hearing??

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a fan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:43 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:40 am So when President Reagan spent all that money to upgrade our military.. was that a mistake? We have a poster on this forum who has forever ripped on Reagan for all the money he spent.

No. I ripped on him for claiming he was shrinking the Federal government with one hand, while making the Federal government ~50% larger with the other, cutting checks as fast as he could. He used government spending to get us out of the recession and 70's malaise.

Which was the EXACT OPPOSITE of what he was selling. To this day, American Conservatives think Reagan shrank the Federal Government. He made Americans, and rural Americans in particular, more dependent on the Federal Government than any President before him.

I have never had a problem with his spending. I had a problem with his borrowing, and with his outright lies about making the Federal government smaller.

dislaxxic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:35 pm Biden wanted to leave, so there was NO WAY he was going to "reverse" that process, started by the Orange Cheeto. They extended the timeframe, DID actually to planning (the military and diplomatic bureaucracies did) and they got a bunch of it wrong, thanks to a crumbling ASF.

Go ahead, stick it all on Joe if it let's you sleep at night, Cranky.

Have you listened to ANY of today's Blinken hearing??

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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:31 am To pass his increase in spending to the military he had to do the dance with Tip. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:31 am The money we borrowed in the 80s is pocket change in comparison to what we have borrowed in just the last 10 years.

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:25 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:31 am To pass his increase in spending to the military he had to do the dance with Tip. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

That's fine. That still doesn't excuse the borrowing. If he wanted bigger government, Reagan should have paid for it.

Instead, he cut taxes for the rich. Not ok.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:31 am The money we borrowed in the 80s is pocket change in comparison to what we have borrowed in just the last 10 years.

Yes! Which is why I laugh relentlessly at the idea the Republican party is conservative.

They're not. Not even close. Trump made the US Government bigger than ever...and he did it BEFORE Covid hit.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:30 pm I do understand why Reagan expanded government spending.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:31 am FTR... Trump is not a republican, I don't know how he has pulled this charade off for so long. Maybe a lot of Republicans are just dumb enough to fall for it?

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:46 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:30 pm I do understand why Reagan expanded government spending.

So do I. My problem with him is that he lied his entire career out of telling Americans that not only was "government the problem"....but that he was shrinking its influence. He did no such thing. He used government to improve the lives of flyover America, in particular.

And this stupid sales pitch has ruined middle America, permanently. How do you govern a people who swears the government is bad, while at the same time, their entire way of life is held together, subsidized, and protected by the very government they claim to despise.

Don't like handouts? Great news. Stop taking them. Start with Federally protected home loans. 70%+ of originations last year were backed by Uncle Sam. Republicans should stop taking said loans, and use the free market.

You think the government does a bad job at everything? Great news----stop sending your kids to Government run schools like University of Virginia, University of Maryland etc., and pony up for privately owned Universities. I'd be delighted to stop send your kids my tax dollars.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:31 am FTR... Trump is not a republican, I don't know how he has pulled this charade off for so long. Maybe a lot of Republicans are just dumb enough to fall for it?

Take a look at the 1976 Republican Platform. It's a real eye opener. Reagan rejected this path----and the party has never been the same.

"The Platform is the Party's contract with the people." This is what it says on the cover of the official printing of the Democrat Platform. So it should be. The Democrats' Platform repeats the same thing on every page: more government, more spending, more inflation. Compare. This Republican Platform says exactly the opposite—less government, less spending, less inflation. In other words, we want you to retain more of your own money, money that represents the worth of your labors, to use as you see fit for the necessities and conveniences of life.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documen ... tform-1976

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:01 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:46 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:30 pm I do understand why Reagan expanded government spending.

So do I. My problem with him is that he lied his entire career out of telling Americans that not only was "government the problem"....but that he was shrinking its influence. He did no such thing. He used government to improve the lives of flyover America, in particular.

And this stupid sales pitch has ruined middle America, permanently. How do you govern a people who swears the government is bad, while at the same time, their entire way of life is held together, subsidized, and protected by the very government they claim to despise.

Don't like handouts? Great news. Stop taking them. Start with Federally protected home loans. 70%+ of originations last year were backed by Uncle Sam. Republicans should stop taking said loans, and use the free market.

You think the government does a bad job at everything? Great news----stop sending your kids to Government run schools like University of Virginia, University of Maryland etc., and pony up for privately owned Universities. I'd be delighted to stop send your kids my tax dollars.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:31 am FTR... Trump is not a republican, I don't know how he has pulled this charade off for so long. Maybe a lot of Republicans are just dumb enough to fall for it?

Take a look at the 1976 Republican Platform. It's a real eye opener. Reagan rejected this path----and the party has never been the same.

"The Platform is the Party's contract with the people." This is what it says on the cover of the official printing of the Democrat Platform. So it should be. The Democrats' Platform repeats the same thing on every page: more government, more spending, more inflation. Compare. This Republican Platform says exactly the opposite—less government, less spending, less inflation. In other words, we want you to retain more of your own money, money that represents the worth of your labors, to use as you see fit for the necessities and conveniences of life.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documen ... tform-1976

The only way I have ever found to retain more of my own money is to not spend more than I make. That money goes into my wifes and mine savings account and investments. That is an extension of what my parents taught me... to live within my means. I get to retire soon and as our financial guru has told us... we are good to go. That did not happen by accident, it happened because even when i struggled I always saved money and always had a plan.