2024

[old salt]

That's why I keep pointing out that you (D)'s need to ask yourself why Trump remains so popular.
It's because so much of the population fears the looney (D) policies & what they are doing to our country.

Last time: why are you and your R buddies supporting Trump, and not any other Republicans for President for 12 years in a row?

Here's a little reminder from the past about why I fear Dems in control of the DoJ & the IC.

I'm sorry, but you're not being honest, again.


You and guys like Tech and FoxNation STILL think it's a Deep State conspiracy when every person involved is not just a Dem, but a Trump appointee...remember?

You guys have been claiming the Deep State has been protecting Joe in regards to the Hunter investigation. Even though we had Rettig (R), Barr (R), Weiss (R), Wray (R) running things.

For you guys, It doesn't matter who is in charge of government. You're still going to claim "conspiracy". We got to watch this game of yours play out in real time.

Voting for Trump didn't get rid of your Deep State claims, sorry. It didn't even slow your claims down, OS.

Reread the FBI lovebirds texts. Maybe you'll get it then.
Your team rosters are not binding or relevant.
Plenty of (R)'s were, & still are, anxious to take down Trump, no matter what it takes.

You keep citing Barr, Wray & Rettig, but in just 1 case -- Hunter.
Barr stayed true to DoJ policy to keep the investigation under wraps until after the election.
It did not go public until Hunter disclosed it right after the election. There was still plenty of time before the SOL ran.
Wray is an institutionalist who must now serve a (D) President. He has done everything possible to protect his agency.
Weiss is a Biden home state lifer who got his job under Trump in 2018 thanks to blue slip approvals from DE's 2 (D) Senators.
Your narrow, repetitive, team based whataboutism still falls short.

[jhu72]

Democrats are apparently afraid of their own shadow.....kicking Kennedy to the curb, giving the GOP a win, if it plays out: https://x.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1707 ... 75918?s=20

Jesus. Fantasy time with Chuck Callesto.

Seems Chuck knows more than you, you might want to follow him now . That must really hurt, stupid algorithm strikes again. : https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/09/politics ... index.html

Just in case CNN is now not good enough, kinda like Chuck : https://www.google.com/search?q=Kennedy ... e&ie=UTF-8

Or there is always his own words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9opkWJn5aE&t=7s

... it will give you and cradle someone to vote for.

[old salt]

jeebus...Flynn???

Has it not been 100 times over revealed what a flaming POS he actually is?

Not just a liar, not just a bigot, a total POS who wanted martial law to be declared to hold onto power...a bigoted, Qanon embracing white christian nationalist fascist POS.

Seriously, 100 times over. Podcast after podcast, speech after speech. Deposition after deposition.

But when one "fears the looney (D) policies & what they are doing to our country." you're going to give a pass to breaking the law, right? You WANT people to break the law, 'to save our country'. Wave the flag.

For God's sake, don't investigate and prosecute them. They're on our side of this holy, civil war. God's side.

The Flynn meeting was on a date and at a time and place that he agreed to. The place was his office where, one would think, he would be much more comfortable than an FBI office. He also was asked ahead of time if he wanted to have a lawyer present. That would’ve tipped off any normal human being that something was afoot. Flynn declined, either because he is incredibly dumb and naïve (unlikely) or because he thought he could outsmart the FBI (most likely).

Flynn responded to an open ended question with a lie. He was not entrapped or anything of the like.

Subsequently, Flynn testified in person under oath, twice, in federal court before a federal judge that he had lied.

Pretty much end of story.

In the eyes of the law, he is a convicted felon. He is lucky he is on the outside and not making license plates.

In the eyes of some (traitorous minds) he’s a hero.

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

[a fan]

Reread the FBI lovebirds texts. Maybe you'll get it then.
Your team rosters are not binding or relevant.
Plenty of (R)'s were, & still are, anxious to take down Trump, no matter what it takes.

You keep citing Barr, Wray & Rettig, but in just 1 case -- Hunter.
Barr stayed true to DoJ policy to keep the investigation under wraps until after the election.
It did not go public until Hunter disclosed it right after the election. There was still plenty of time before the SOL ran.
Wray is an institutionalist who must now serve a (D) President. He has done everything possible to protect his agency.
Weiss is a Biden home state lifer who got his job under Trump in 2018 thanks to blue slip approvals from DE's 2 (D) Senators.
Your narrow, repetitive, team based whataboutism still falls short.

Blah blah blah.

Still can't answer the question. This is fantastic. Simple question. Asked you five time now, and you can't come up with the answer....because you know it' ain't pretty.


why are R voters supporting Trump, and not any other Republicans for President for 12 years in a row?

[a fan]

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

Odd, General Kelly managed to work for Trump, and left with his full rep intact.

He must have some sort of magic beans that Flynn didn't have.....it that what you're going with here?

[old salt]

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

Odd, General Kelly managed to work for Trump, and left with his full rep intact.

He must have some sort of magic beans that Flynn didn't have.....it that what you're going with here?

Gen Kelly did not escape unscathed. Remember when he was called a racist.

[a fan]

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

Odd, General Kelly managed to work for Trump, and left with his full rep intact.

He must have some sort of magic beans that Flynn didn't have.....it that what you're going with here?

Gen Kelly did not escape unscathed. Remember when he was called a racist.

By all means, cling to that.....

[old salt]

Reread the FBI lovebirds texts. Maybe you'll get it then.
Your team rosters are not binding or relevant.
Plenty of (R)'s were, & still are, anxious to take down Trump, no matter what it takes.

You keep citing Barr, Wray & Rettig, but in just 1 case -- Hunter.
Barr stayed true to DoJ policy to keep the investigation under wraps until after the election.
It did not go public until Hunter disclosed it right after the election. There was still plenty of time before the SOL ran.
Wray is an institutionalist who must now serve a (D) President. He has done everything possible to protect his agency.
Weiss is a Biden home state lifer who got his job under Trump in 2018 thanks to blue slip approvals from DE's 2 (D) Senators.
Your narrow, repetitive, team based whataboutism still falls short.

Blah blah blah.

Still can't answer the question. This is fantastic. Simple question. Asked you five time now, and you can't come up with the answer....because you know it' ain't pretty.


why are R voters supporting Trump, and not any other Republicans for President for 12 years in a row?

I've given you the answers, you just don't like them. Trump remains the leading anti-establishment candidate.
His enemies have made him a victim, hero & martyr.
The Dems don't want Trump to go away. They don't want the (R)'s to run someone who can win.

[a fan]

I've given you the answers, you just don't like them. Trump remains the leading anti-establishment candidate.

Nope. Policy is immaterial to Republicans. Know how I know? Trump made the government over 60% bigger in just four years, and you didn't even notice. The swamp is bigger than ever, and the Coastal Libs are bigger than ever. In what world is this "anti-establishment" to explode the size of Government.

Policy is irrelevant to both Trump fans and Republican voters. It's why R's don't pass major new laws anymore....your voters don't notice.

His enemies have made him a victim, hero & martyr.

Nope. That ain't it, either. Because that doesn't explain why he was nominated the first time

Wanna try again?

The Dems don't want Trump to go away. They don't want the (R)'s to run someone who can win.

Trump won the first election, barely lost the second election....and is AHEAD in the upcoming election.

And you think this is what the Dems want?

This is the best part of your conspiracies----even if they work perfectly, the outcome is the opposite of what you claim.

We're talking about Hunter Biden 5 years after the start of a simple tax case...and you're on here telling us this conspiracy "helps Joe Biden".

[old salt]

I've given you the answers, you just don't like them. Trump remains the leading anti-establishment candidate.

Nope. Policy is immaterial to Republicans. Know how I know? Trump made the government over 60% bigger in just four years, and you didn't even notice. The swamp is bigger than ever, and the Coastal Libs are bigger than ever. In what world is this "anti-establishment" to explode the size of Government. Results matter to the (R)s -- the economy, inflation, the border, Afghanistan, Ukraine & the MidEast. All were better under Trump

Policy is irrelevant to both Trump fans and Republican voters. It's why R's don't pass major new laws anymore....your voters don't notice.
Results

His enemies have made him a victim, hero & martyr.

Nope. That ain't it, either. Because that doesn't explain why he was nominated the first time

Wanna try again? Already told you. He was the anti-establishment candidate.

The Dems don't want Trump to go away. They don't want the (R)'s to run someone who can win.

Trump won the first election, barely lost the second election....and is AHEAD in the upcoming election.

And you think this is what the Dems want?
That's what the polls tell them. You still haven't watched the Morning Joe video clip.

This is the best part of your conspiracies----even if they work perfectly, the outcome is the opposite of what you claim.

We're talking about Hunter Biden 5 years after the start of a simple tax case...and you're on here telling us this conspiracy "helps Joe Biden".
...had the computer guy not given the copy of the laptop hard drive to Rudy, we'd have never known & Hunter still wouldn't have paid any back taxes. He'd be Pop's Ambassador to China or Ukraine

[old salt]

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

Odd, General Kelly managed to work for Trump, and left with his full rep intact.

He must have some sort of magic beans that Flynn didn't have.....it that what you're going with here?

Gen Kelly did not escape unscathed. Remember when he was called a racist.

By all means, cling to that.....

Remember when his friend & former Pentagon colleague Jeh Johnson went on tv to defend him.

[a fan]

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

Odd, General Kelly managed to work for Trump, and left with his full rep intact.

He must have some sort of magic beans that Flynn didn't have.....it that what you're going with here?

Gen Kelly did not escape unscathed. Remember when he was called a racist.

By all means, cling to that.....

Remember when his friend & former Pentagon colleague Jeh Johnson went on tv to defend him.

By all means, cling to that. Kelly is fine. Your man Flynn is a convicted felon, and is disgraced. Happy to admit that I feel sorry for him...but it's on him. He's an adult, and made his bed.

[old salt]

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

Odd, General Kelly managed to work for Trump, and left with his full rep intact.

He must have some sort of magic beans that Flynn didn't have.....it that what you're going with here?

Gen Kelly did not escape unscathed. Remember when he was called a racist.

By all means, cling to that.....

Remember when his friend & former Pentagon colleague Jeh Johnson went on tv to defend him.

By all means, cling to that. Kelly is fine. Your man Flynn is a convicted felon, and is disgraced. Happy to admit that I feel sorry for him...but it's on him. He's an adult, and made his bed.

Hard to know how Flynn would have worked out had the Deep State & IC not come after him.
He never got a fair shot. He did a lot of good while on active duty. I think he would have done well working with Mattis & Kelly.

[a fan]

Hard to know how Flynn would have worked out had the Deep State & IC not come after him.
He never got a fair shot. He did a lot of good while on active duty. I think he would have done well working with Mattis & Kelly.

In order for your "the Deep State took him out" theory to hold water, the Deep State would have to have actually done something to get him fired.

They did no such thing. Flynn was sh(tcanned for lying to Pence. Period. That's on him. No amount of dancing changes that.

[old salt]

Hard to know how Flynn would have worked out had the Deep State & IC not come after him.
He never got a fair shot. He did a lot of good while on active duty. I think he would have done well working with Mattis & Kelly.

In order for your "the Deep State took him out" theory to hold water, the Deep State would have to have actually done something to get him fired.

They did no such thing. Flynn was sh(tcanned for lying to Pence. Period. That's on him. No amount of dancing changes that.

The unmasking & leak of his ph call to the WP. The discussion between Obama, Biden & Sally Yates to go after him for the Logan Act. That put events in motion. Because of the leak, Trump had to dump him. The FBI ambush interview directed by Comey & McCabe. Strzok not clearing him because of pressure from the 7th floor. Mueller prosecutors threatening to go after his son if he didn't take a plea. Clapper & Brennan went after him from the time he joined the Trump campaign. They fed Dana Priest at the WP & Atlantic what she needed to do a hit piece on him. Halper's Svetlana honeytrap fable. He was toast from the time he joined in the "lock her up" cheer. They got him.

[Farfromgeneva]

jeebus...Flynn???

Has it not been 100 times over revealed what a flaming POS he actually is?

Not just a liar, not just a bigot, a total POS who wanted martial law to be declared to hold onto power...a bigoted, Qanon embracing white christian nationalist fascist POS.

Seriously, 100 times over. Podcast after podcast, speech after speech. Deposition after deposition.

But when one "fears the looney (D) policies & what they are doing to our country." you're going to give a pass to breaking the law, right? You WANT people to break the law, 'to save our country'. Wave the flag.

For God's sake, don't investigate and prosecute them. They're on our side of this holy, civil war. God's side.

The Flynn meeting was on a date and at a time and place that he agreed to. The place was his office where, one would think, he would be much more comfortable than an FBI office. He also was asked ahead of time if he wanted to have a lawyer present. That would’ve tipped off any normal human being that something was afoot. Flynn declined, either because he is incredibly dumb and naïve (unlikely) or because he thought he could outsmart the FBI (most likely).

Flynn responded to an open ended question with a lie. He was not entrapped or anything of the like.

Subsequently, Flynn testified in person under oath, twice, in federal court before a federal judge that he had lied.

Pretty much end of story.

In the eyes of the law, he is a convicted felon. He is lucky he is on the outside and not making license plates.

In the eyes of some (traitorous minds) he’s a hero.

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

This is the dumbest joke I’ve seen and I’ve seen some dumb ones.

Beyond pathetic. “Jan 6th witch-hunt.” Just disgusting comment. Deep State partisans.

Someone has lost the plot. Completely.

[Farfromgeneva]

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

Odd, General Kelly managed to work for Trump, and left with his full rep intact.

He must have some sort of magic beans that Flynn didn't have.....it that what you're going with here?

Deep State partisans (as if the redundancy isn’t obvious, Deep State very much implies his towards the institution-this isn’t grammar but logic ao cradles outside the box can understand). The “IC knew how to eliminate him”. “They tried to bankrupt him.”

This is moronic deep paranoia with someone who’s completely lost touch.

[Farfromgeneva]

I've given you the answers, you just don't like them. Trump remains the leading anti-establishment candidate.

Nope. Policy is immaterial to Republicans. Know how I know? Trump made the government over 60% bigger in just four years, and you didn't even notice. The swamp is bigger than ever, and the Coastal Libs are bigger than ever. In what world is this "anti-establishment" to explode the size of Government.

Policy is irrelevant to both Trump fans and Republican voters. It's why R's don't pass major new laws anymore....your voters don't notice.

His enemies have made him a victim, hero & martyr.

Nope. That ain't it, either. Because that doesn't explain why he was nominated the first time

Wanna try again?

The Dems don't want Trump to go away. They don't want the (R)'s to run someone who can win.

Trump won the first election, barely lost the second election....and is AHEAD in the upcoming election.

And you think this is what the Dems want?

This is the best part of your conspiracies----even if they work perfectly, the outcome is the opposite of what you claim.

We're talking about Hunter Biden 5 years after the start of a simple tax case...and you're on here telling us this conspiracy "helps Joe Biden".

The very nature of using a term like enemies should tell you that this is a discussion with someone who doesn’t understand the world. The moralizing and value laden language where 99% of the time none of that exists at all and is a mere mental projection betrays it. And this isn’t intentionally incendiary language such as I use as a regular pattern or cadence.

[CU88a]

jeebus...Flynn???

Has it not been 100 times over revealed what a flaming POS he actually is?

Not just a liar, not just a bigot, a total POS who wanted martial law to be declared to hold onto power...a bigoted, Qanon embracing white christian nationalist fascist POS.

Seriously, 100 times over. Podcast after podcast, speech after speech. Deposition after deposition.

But when one "fears the looney (D) policies & what they are doing to our country." you're going to give a pass to breaking the law, right? You WANT people to break the law, 'to save our country'. Wave the flag.

For God's sake, don't investigate and prosecute them. They're on our side of this holy, civil war. God's side.

The Flynn meeting was on a date and at a time and place that he agreed to. The place was his office where, one would think, he would be much more comfortable than an FBI office. He also was asked ahead of time if he wanted to have a lawyer present. That would’ve tipped off any normal human being that something was afoot. Flynn declined, either because he is incredibly dumb and naïve (unlikely) or because he thought he could outsmart the FBI (most likely).

Flynn responded to an open ended question with a lie. He was not entrapped or anything of the like.

Subsequently, Flynn testified in person under oath, twice, in federal court before a federal judge that he had lied.

Pretty much end of story.

In the eyes of the law, he is a convicted felon. He is lucky he is on the outside and not making license plates.

In the eyes of some (traitorous minds) he’s a hero.

Flynn was a hero, until Deep State partisans abused their power & came after him because he supported Trump.
The IC had to eliminate him. He knew how they played their games. They entrapped him.
They tried to bankrupt him. He then fought back the only way he could.
You may have noticed -- he escaped the Jan 6th witch hunt unscathed,

Honestly, this is scary to read from you.

[NattyBohChamps04]

Well to be fair they do keep finding and convicting witches.