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Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:24 pm
by Farfromgeneva
DocBarrister wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:07 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:49 pm
molo wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:21 pm Three Ivies, a “Public Ivy,” and an institution that is as selective as an Ivy. Excellent fit academically, comparable lax history as a few of them, different league than one of them. With paper from both the PI and JHU, I like this definition of rivalry. Good company for all.
Let's just say that I appreciate my alma mater making the list... ;)

Higher than some on the academic side...only some (few) years better on the lax side...glad to be remembered at all!

That said, chasing US News ranking is a foolish game...
Dartmouth … excellent academics, gorgeous campus, athletic students, kinda plays lacrosse.

DocBarrister ;)
Better party school. Friend who was super super serious in HS got there and had a one year sabbatical before second semester was out. He a bloodsucking lawyer like you too! :)

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:17 am
by MDlaxfan76
DocBarrister wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:07 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:49 pm
molo wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:21 pm Three Ivies, a “Public Ivy,” and an institution that is as selective as an Ivy. Excellent fit academically, comparable lax history as a few of them, different league than one of them. With paper from both the PI and JHU, I like this definition of rivalry. Good company for all.
Let's just say that I appreciate my alma mater making the list... ;)

Higher than some on the academic side...only some (few) years better on the lax side...glad to be remembered at all!

That said, chasing US News ranking is a foolish game...
Dartmouth … excellent academics, gorgeous campus, athletic students, kinda plays lacrosse.

DocBarrister ;)
At times we do. ;)

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:23 am
by Farfromgeneva
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:17 am
DocBarrister wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:07 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:49 pm
molo wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:21 pm Three Ivies, a “Public Ivy,” and an institution that is as selective as an Ivy. Excellent fit academically, comparable lax history as a few of them, different league than one of them. With paper from both the PI and JHU, I like this definition of rivalry. Good company for all.
Let's just say that I appreciate my alma mater making the list... ;)

Higher than some on the academic side...only some (few) years better on the lax side...glad to be remembered at all!

That said, chasing US News ranking is a foolish game...
Dartmouth … excellent academics, gorgeous campus, athletic students, kinda plays lacrosse.

DocBarrister ;)
At times we do. ;)
If only Ari Sussman had three lacrosse playing athlete children...

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:41 pm
by wgdsr
so rabil joins kyle.
was good to see him have a good year after 2020.
a bit surprising given that, but maybe uses the extra time to pump the league to new heights and attend more red carpets.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:37 pm
by DocBarrister
wgdsr wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:41 pm so rabil joins kyle.
was good to see him have a good year after 2020.
a bit surprising given that, but maybe uses the extra time to pump the league to new heights and attend more red carpets.
One of the greatest of all time. A certain future Hall of Famer.

Thing is .. Paul Rabil has only begun to influence the future of lacrosse. His impact on the game is only likely to grow.

DocBarrister

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:44 am
by primitiveskills
Patrick Stevens' pre-season write-up. A pretty fair assessment, IMO.
https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... sion-i-men

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:00 pm
by HopFan16
Underpromise and overdeliver

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:22 pm
by 51percentcorn
It was certainly a fair paragraph but primarily fair - IMO - because it didn't say much. I realize he was only given about 5 or 6 sentences of room but if I were writing a preseason paragraph on Hopkins lacrosse in '22 I wouldn't devote 60% of the paragraph to what happened in '21. While making a valid point about the tough OOC schedule - he missed any one of the following issues to mention:
- Goalie - Marcille unquestionably performed better than Kirson - but 47% is still 47% and his worst game was his last - is the goalie situation stabilized?
- Epstein - For Hopkins to take a significant step forward - again IMO - this is the offensive key - whether his injury lingered, adjustment to the ball being under DeSimone's control at X, or he was pissed off he wasn't nearly the same player he was in '19. That HAS to change
- Midfields -with the exception of Zinn and Baskin - everybody is back and while outside shooting once appeared to be a liability is it now closer to a strength with Degnon, Grimes and Peshko?
- Defensive hole right now appears to be at LSM in the mid-field
- Recruiting - the lowest "ranked" and most under the radar Hopkins class in quite some time I would imagine - did PM and staff find some keepers?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:56 pm
by primitiveskills
51percentcorn wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:22 pm It was certainly a fair paragraph but primarily fair - IMO - because it didn't say much. I realize he was only given about 5 or 6 sentences of room but if I were writing a preseason paragraph on Hopkins lacrosse in '22 I wouldn't devote 60% of the paragraph to what happened in '21. While making a valid point about the tough OOC schedule - he missed any one of the following issues to mention:
- Goalie - Marcille unquestionably performed better than Kirson - but 47% is still 47% and his worst game was his last - is the goalie situation stabilized?
- Epstein - For Hopkins to take a significant step forward - again IMO - this is the offensive key - whether his injury lingered, adjustment to the ball being under DeSimone's control at X, or he was ticked off he wasn't nearly the same player he was in '19. That HAS to change
- Midfields -with the exception of Zinn and Baskin - everybody is back and while outside shooting once appeared to be a liability is it now closer to a strength with Degnon, Grimes and Peshko?
- Defensive hole right now appears to be at LSM in the mid-field
- Recruiting - the lowest "ranked" and most under the radar Hopkins class in quite some time I would imagine - did PM and staff find some keepers?
Re: Epstein, his play in the B1G tournament (where he looked a lot more like the '19 version) suggests that injury was a bigger factor in his play earlier in the year than anything about not playing at X, benching, etc. I think that stuff was way overblown. His game at X was largely predicated on exlopsiveness and change-of-direction. You need two healthy knees for that. My bet is that he will have a monster year.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:00 pm
by ohmilax34
51percentcorn wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:22 pm It was certainly a fair paragraph but primarily fair - IMO - because it didn't say much. I realize he was only given about 5 or 6 sentences of room but if I were writing a preseason paragraph on Hopkins lacrosse in '22 I wouldn't devote 60% of the paragraph to what happened in '21. While making a valid point about the tough OOC schedule - he missed any one of the following issues to mention:
- Goalie - Marcille unquestionably performed better than Kirson - but 47% is still 47% and his worst game was his last - is the goalie situation stabilized?
- Epstein - For Hopkins to take a significant step forward - again IMO - this is the offensive key - whether his injury lingered, adjustment to the ball being under DeSimone's control at X, or he was ticked off he wasn't nearly the same player he was in '19. That HAS to change
- Midfields -with the exception of Zinn and Baskin - everybody is back and while outside shooting once appeared to be a liability is it now closer to a strength with Degnon, Grimes and Peshko?
- Defensive hole right now appears to be at LSM in the mid-field
- Recruiting - the lowest "ranked" and most under the radar Hopkins class in quite some time I would imagine - did PM and staff find some keepers?
I have no problem with your critique (I didn't write the summary). They usually do a better job in January when they preview the top 20 or so. Those seem worth reading. These early rankings summaries don't seem to be worth reading.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:05 pm
by HopFan16
Attack -- Will be good. If Epstein takes any step forward at all, it could be great. A 75% version of 2019 Epstein + 2021 DeSo gives you two dynamic, ambidextrous playmakers that makes life very difficult for defenses. Whoever slides into the spot on the left side (candidates: Grimes, Maher, Chauvette, Charboneau) could see some short-sticks and have space to operate.

Offensive midfield -- TBD where Grimes ends up but Peshko was a revelation late last season and is a future All-American IMO. Between him, Degnon, Grimes, McDermott, Angelus, and Keogh, there's a solid combination of size, shooting ability, and experience. Still only two natural midfielders in that group but I like Angelus' speed mixed in there and if Keogh can finally stay healthy (big "if") then he'll contribute.

FOGO -- Narewski rock solid but would be nice if either Prouty, Dunn, or Callahan could approach ~50% as a change-of-pace option. Callahan's high school stats are gaudy. Staff brought Prouty back for a reason—pure experience/depth or are they expecting an improvement in year two of the new rules?

Defensive midfield -- No longer the munchkins of old but still a lot of question marks here. Delaney who was surprisingly good last year is very likely gone. Fernandez is back and we'll see how the knee responds but he'll be something like 15 months removed from the injury by the time the season rolls around. Other options at LSM: Jaronski, Szuluk, Deans, Smith, Todaro, Bowler, Kaufman. Some intriguing size/athleticism there but not a lot of experience. SSDM: Martin returns after a promising freshman year, the rotation behind him is a little unclear. Mabbett is back—showed real growth in a short amount of time before getting hurt but still has some work to do. Lilly is still around, Glassmeyer returns from injury, and there are a couple freshmen that could see time here. Lot of bodies here, a couple have shown promise, but another question mark as a unit.

Defense -- Lyne is back—stats weren't mindblowing but that's generally because teams avoided dodging directly at him. Jennings takes the Reinson spot and then the third is likely either: McManus, Szuluk, Smith, Todaro or some combination. I think this is neither a strength nor a weakness. With an actual offseason coach K should have the D in decent shape. But a lot is riding on...

Goalie -- Just hope and pray

Bottom line: Offense/faceoffs generally good with a solid mix of proven players and intriguing prospects. Defense/goalie not necessarily a debacle but still questions to answer there. Schedule will expose any issues immediately.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:22 pm
by jhu06
Paul Rabil @PaulRabil As part of my debt owed to the sport, I’m excited to announce a new endeavor, called Goals for Greatness. Beginning in 2022, I’m committing to resourcing lacrosse goals in all 50 states, recurring every year thereafter.

Nice move, perhaps Hopkins lacrosse can donate two to a school in baltimore as part of this.

Stevens previews are usually a lot more extensive and include things like starts/scoring returning but because of corona/deadlines/kids in transition he might not have had the ability this year to add more beef because these were probably written in early august. He usually covers college fall sports.

I've been wondering what the silver linings are to the kids who decommitted, the kids like zinn who left and the lower wattage recruiting classes but then you look at the roster size and there's still a numbers crunch.

As far as finding out who the defense is, no disrespect to towson, princeton and whomever else we've got early but going up against the epstein/deso/grimes/degnon/peshko and company is probably tougher than what we'll see early in the season so quality evaluations should come starting now in fall ball.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:32 pm
by HopFan16
jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:22 pm Stevens previews are usually a lot more extensive and include things like starts/scoring returning but because of corona/deadlines/kids in transition he might not have had the ability this year to add more beef because these were probably written in early august.
These aren't season previews, they're just little blurbs that come as part of the "early rankings." The full team-by-team previews are in January.

You finally spelled Peshko right so at least we're making progress there

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:39 pm
by jhu06
HopFan16 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:32 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:22 pm Stevens previews are usually a lot more extensive and include things like starts/scoring returning but because of corona/deadlines/kids in transition he might not have had the ability this year to add more beef because these were probably written in early august.
These aren't season previews, they're just little blurbs that come as part of the "early rankings." The full team-by-team previews are in January.

You finally spelled Peshko right so at least we're making progress there
https://www.syracuse.com/patrick-steven ... lac_4.html

Thanks for coming.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:50 pm
by HopFan16
jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:39 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:32 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:22 pm Stevens previews are usually a lot more extensive and include things like starts/scoring returning but because of corona/deadlines/kids in transition he might not have had the ability this year to add more beef because these were probably written in early august.
These aren't season previews, they're just little blurbs that come as part of the "early rankings." The full team-by-team previews are in January.

You finally spelled Peshko right so at least we're making progress there
https://www.syracuse.com/patrick-steven ... lac_4.html

Thanks for coming.
I don't subscribe to Syracuse.com so I can't read that. This was the full 2021 Hopkins preview from US Lax Mag with returners, additions, "enemy lines," etc. Published on January 11. That is what I am referring to. There is no reason to expect these early blurbs to be extensive.

https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... opkins-men

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:15 pm
by wgdsr
jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:22 pm As far as finding out who the defense is, no disrespect to towson, princeton and whomever else we've got early but going up against the epstein/deso/grimes/degnon/peshko and company is probably tougher than what we'll see early in the season so quality evaluations should come starting now in fall ball.
in 2018, hopkins dropped 2 of their 1st 3 games.
in 2019, they lost their first 2 and 3 of their 1st 5.
in 2020, they famously lost 4 of 6.
they gave up 15 a game in those losses.
it's my understanding they have a challenging ooc schedule on paper in '22. smh.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:26 pm
by jhu06
wgdsr wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:15 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:22 pm As far as finding out who the defense is, no disrespect to towson, princeton and whomever else we've got early but going up against the epstein/deso/grimes/degnon/peshko and company is probably tougher than what we'll see early in the season so quality evaluations should come starting now in fall ball.
in 2018, hopkins dropped 2 of their 1st 3 games.
in 2019, they lost their first 2 and 3 of their 1st 5.
in 2020, they famously lost 4 of 6.
they gave up 15 a game in those losses.
it's my understanding they have a challenging ooc schedule on paper in '22. smh.
that's true, but those are coaches scheming against us. In terms of raw talent the offense the defense is facing is probably superior.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:46 pm
by wgdsr
jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:26 pm
wgdsr wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:15 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:22 pm As far as finding out who the defense is, no disrespect to towson, princeton and whomever else we've got early but going up against the epstein/deso/grimes/degnon/peshko and company is probably tougher than what we'll see early in the season so quality evaluations should come starting now in fall ball.
in 2018, hopkins dropped 2 of their 1st 3 games.
in 2019, they lost their first 2 and 3 of their 1st 5.
in 2020, they famously lost 4 of 6.
they gave up 15 a game in those losses.
it's my understanding they have a challenging ooc schedule on paper in '22. smh.
that's true, but those are coaches scheming against us. In terms of raw talent the offense the defense is facing is probably superior.
it's just that the jaybirds don't score as much?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:58 pm
by HopFan16
Word is that Lawas, the '22 goalie at Hill Academy who re-classed as a '23, has decommitted. 51 can sleep well tonight. But now we need a goalie for both '22 and '23.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:46 pm
by 10stone5
I wonder if they take a flyer on this guy, then ?

Edge Lacrosse, Dillon Ward was Edge Lacrosse.

6’3” - 6’4”, 190 or so.
A 2022, uncommitted,
Collison and Peshko would know what this guy can do,

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... commitment

https://sportsrecruits.com/athlete/colin_korry