old salt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:20 am
a fan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:45 am
old salt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:55 pm
You really need to ask yourself how & why Trump has so much support.
Oh, I have. And I'd tell you why, but you don't want to hear it.
You are physically unable to explain why Trump has so much support, without bringing up the Dems or "the Libs".
Because you're unwilling to look in the mirror, and examine your own party, OS. You can't do it.
So go ahead & tell me. Why does Trump have millions of followers ?
If you want to go past "because they want Trump to lead their party?
It's because 40 years Reaganomics and Republican Trickle down economic policy has failed them completely. It didn't work. At all.
-going with privatized health care and education has left then holding their willies in the cold. These voters are left behind with school and health care they can't afford.
-R's chose wars overseas to protect the 1%ers interests over investing in working class Americans
-and Reagan started pulling apart Unions..the only thing left between working class and irrelevancy in the global market
-NATFA and other R supported policies moved labor values to the global mean. Which royally F'ed the R base.
-Health care costs exploded, giving the bottom 50% of earners 2nd world health care (the ER, to fix catastrophic problems, instead of overall actual health care.
-then you move to what makes their economic status unbearable for them.....
-all the money and good deals in America all shovel money to the overeducated coastal liberal elites....and they continue to do that to this day. Trump's policies ACCELERATED this problem. (trump voters don't care...they've given up)
-these liberal elites include people who up until the last 20 years had no voice. So now that we're hearing from the gay and minority communities, the flyover working class is losing their minds. THEY used to be all that anyone listened to in media and politics. They're out of their minds because they aren't calling 100% of the shots culturally, and this loss of power is freaking them out. So all their prejudices are bubbling to the surface. You see this in their mantra "go woke go broke" which is a transparently sad death rattle from them which says "see, Mommy! We're still important, and people HAVE to listen to our opinions"
-so Trump, a card carrying 1%er who had Hillary at his latest wedding knows all this, and starts stoking their fears, and makes them think he's listening to them, when he's doing no such thing. Trump's policies are moving MORE money to these coastal libs, faster than ever. But policies and reality are immaterial to these voters. And we know this, because Trump's biggest accomplishment was a fat tax cut to the 1%ers, which is royally F'ing Trump voters....who simply don't care.
-in short, it's a national pathology where the R policies have failed them, but like you, they're unwilling to accept that, and start voting for Dems like Sanders who DO have policies that are designed to help the working class.
-and R leaders don't think they can change course, because they and FoxNation have been selling this "small government" notion that smart guys like McConnell know full well screws the R working class base. The result of this? R's haven't had a policy that REALLY helps the working class in over 20 years. The R party is stuck, and knows that only liberal economic policies----free health care, free vocational training, etc.----are the ONLY way to help these Trump voters.
-so what do they do instead? They tell voters that they'll stop cultural change (which they cannot do), instead of actually working to help their base get out of their lot in life. Things like keepin' the gays from reading books, or (snicker) selling beer to them. You know: the REALLY important stuff.
So until a R leader actually comes out to help the working class? We'll continue to get Trump and TrumpClones selling to voters that they'll "stop the gays"...while their real policies make the coastal liberal elite more and more wealthy. Rinse. Repeat.
It's a combination of zero leadership and policy from the R leaders, their loss of economic power and the jealousy of those who have economic power. Then you pile on to this loss of self0worth and self-esteem the fact that American culture is passing them by.....and you get three nomination of Trump who feeds their lowest and basest thoughts.
You’re not wrong. But I was pointing out that there is a leadership void in the R party because the Rs can’t keep selling trickledown.