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Read your links but didn’t listen to the 52 minute interview.

Yeah, seems to answer some questions (if true), but doesn’t answer others. Critically, who dropped the laptop off, what identifying information was provided, and where is the work order or the like created for the job?

This guy evidently is a Trump supporter. This all comes out three weeks before the election. Hmm.

As noted in some of this stuff, it should be easy to authenticate the emails, that is, if they are authentic. So let’s get that done and then we all can talk about the emails and what, if anything, they mean for Joe.
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njbill wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:19 am Read your links but didn’t listen to the 52 minute interview.

Yeah, seems to answer some questions (if true), but doesn’t answer others. Critically, who dropped the laptop off, what identifying information was provided, and where is the work order or the like created for the job?

This guy evidently is a Trump supporter. This all comes out three weeks before the election. Hmm.

As noted in some of this stuff, it should be easy to authenticate the emails, that is, if they are authentic. So let’s get that done and then we all can talk about the emails and what, if anything, they mean for Joe.
Nothing gained from listening to the interview that's not covered in the articles, except that MacIssac seems genuinely fearful.

MacIssac says the customer identified himself as Hunter... (pause, you don't recognize me ?) ...Biden, as MacIssac filled out the work order, which he says he gave to the NY Post.

Re timing -- sounds like MacIssac got antsy & paranoid, with the election coming & nothing happening from the FBI. He felt out on a limb & at risk if Biden wins. I'm surprised there aren't protesters outside his shop yet. Maybe the media has taken all the parking spaces.

We very much need to hear from the FBI on this ASAP. They have reportedly had the computer for 10 months. If this is not authentic & is indeed Russian disinformation, the voters need to know now, not months after the election. Is this, or is it not, Russian meddling ? Tell us while it can still make a difference.
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The Babylonbee folks should be very happy this morning!
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October 15, 2020 (Thursday)

Tonight was supposed to be the night of a televised town hall meeting featuring both President Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. But, after Trump tested positive for coronavirus, the organizers of the event turned it into a virtual meeting. Trump refused to participate. So Biden arranged an event of an hour and a half on ABC. Then Trump arranged his own, separate hour-long town hall on NBC.

NBC faced deep criticism for giving Trump a platform when he had ditched the official plan. But the network made up for that criticism by giving the position of moderator to journalist Savannah Guthrie, who has a J.D. from Georgetown Law School and worked as a litigator. Although the setting of the NBC event was oddly partisan—the backdrop consisted of masked women nodding along with the president’s answers—Guthrie repeatedly pressed Trump on his evasive answers to questioners, and his frustration was palpable.

Before the event, Trump had denigrated it. “They asked me if I’d do it, I figured, ‘What the hell? We get a free hour on television,’” he said.
But the questioning did him no favors. He refused to distance himself from QAnon supporters, who believe in the conspiracy theory that Trump is secretly orchestrating an assault on a ring of pedophiles and cannibals made up of the country’s elites. He admitted he owes $400 million to someone, but insists that he doesn’t owe it to Russia or any “sinister people” and that it is a “very, very small percentage” compared to his assets. He refused to say whether he had tested negative for coronavirus on September 29, the day of his first debate with Biden, and said he could not release his tax returns because they were under audit (when Guthrie noted that there was no rule stopping him from releasing them anyway, he got visibly angry). He maintained that he has a plan to replace the Affordable Care Act, but could not describe what that is. As usual, he insisted he is treated terribly.

Meanwhile, over at his own town hall, Biden put to rest Trump’s accusations that he is senile or “sleepy.” Biden answered questions from voters ranging from what he would do about racial inequality to our standing in foreign affairs. He showed deep knowledge of the issues, citing history and statistics, as well as providing detailed plans for what he would do to address the nation's problems. He was empathetic and human—the word people keep using is “decent”—and seemed energetic and eager to get underway with his plans for getting America back on track.
In one of the more striking moments of the evening, moderator George Stephanopoulos asked Biden “If you lose, what will that say to you about where America is today?” Rather than giving the obvious answer for a presidential candidate-- “I won’t lose”—Biden demonstrated that he is willing to accept responsibility for his actions, something that has been perilously thin on the ground for the past four years, and demonstrated his confidence in his fellow Americans. “It could say that I’m a lousy candidate and I didn’t do a good job,” he told Stephanopoulos. “But… I hope that it doesn’t say that we are as racially, ethnically, and religiously at odds with one another as it appears the president wants us to be…. Because we have the greatest opportunity than any country in the world to own the 21st century and we can’t do it divided.” [sic]

After the events, fact-checkers provided the grounding for the obvious: Trump made it up as he went along, hitting some of his favorite debunked talking points, while Biden misspoke on some of the details he outlined (he got troop levels in Afghanistan wrong, for example) but stayed close to the facts.

More than anything, though, Biden reminded us of what a president is supposed to sound like. It was an extraordinary relief to hear someone actually talk about the issues the country faces, rather than make everything about himself. And then, after the televised part of his town hall ended, Biden continued to answer questions, talking to voters because, well, that’s what real politicians do.

Trump’s willingness to grab free airtime tonight reflects his campaign’s financial straits. In these last days of the campaign, as his funds dwindle, Trump has been using the resources of the federal government—also known as our tax dollars—to support his bid for reelection. He has poured more than $32 billion into direct aid for farmers, put letters in government-distributed boxes of food claiming personal credit for the program, and promised billions to seniors to help cover the cost of prescription drugs. He has planned a $300 million advertising campaign to help us “defeat despair” over the coronavirus, and has used the White House for both the Republican National Convention and a recent political rally.

All that money is supposed to move voters into Trump’s column, but tonight did nothing to aid that effort.

Still, he doesn’t much seem to care. His administration seems to have turned into a revenge operation. Today, Trump appeared to celebrate last month’s killing of murder suspect Michael Reinoehl by law enforcement officers who had been deputized as U.S. Marshals. Reinoehl was a suspect in the killing of a right-wing agitator in Portland, Oregon, when the officers shot him. “They knew who he was; they didn't want to arrest him, and in 15 minutes that ended," Trump told an audience at a campaign rally in North Carolina, seeming to gloat over an extrajudicial killing. Trump also continued to attack Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, just a week after the FBI arrested 8 men for plotting to kidnap her.

We also learned today that intelligence officers had warned White House officials, including the president, that Russians were using Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani to feed disinformation to Trump. A former intelligence official told Washington Post reporters: “The message was, “Do what you want to do, but your friend Rudy has been worked by Russian assets in Ukraine.” This makes the willingness of Republicans to push yesterday’s “revelation” of an incriminating laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden even more astonishing. NBC News reports that intelligence officers are investigating that story to see if it is a foreign intelligence operation.

On Twitter tonight, conservative columnist Bill Kristol wrote, “A friend who has served at very high levels of government, a true public servant and a serious conservative, emailed me earlier: "The Republican Party has become the party of facilitating Russian agitprop and voter suppression. Not what I signed up for."

Today the administration rejected a request from California Governor Gavin Newsom for a disaster declaration to free up money to help the state after six wildfires have burned hundreds of thousands of acres across the state. California is a reliably Democratic state that will likely give its electoral votes to Biden.

Meanwhile, in the absence of a coronavirus relief bill, poverty is growing. Depending on the scale they use, researchers say 6 to 8 million Americans have slipped below the poverty line. Republican strategists appear to be willing to deepen the recession if it means crippling an incoming Biden administration. According to a report in Bloomberg, Republicans are setting the stage to kill future federal spending. If Biden is elected but the Republicans hold the Senate, they will refuse any aid to address the coronavirus crisis, thus hoping to cripple a Democratic presidency from Day One.
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Bart wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:36 am The Babylonbee folks should be very happy this morning!
The Onion must be so jealous.
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Election in less than three weeks. Democrats here are giddy, predicting a 15 point Biden win. If Biden wins, doesn’t that mean (according to their definitions) that America is good?

So if Trump wins, how can that mean America is bad? Isn’t it the exact same country that libs today are predicting is good? No country goes from good to bad in less than 21 days.
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PSA: Boycott Stupid.
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Laxxal22 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:00 am
Bart wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:36 am The Babylonbee folks should be very happy this morning!
The Onion must be so jealous.



Even more funny than Trump taking the Bee seriously is only two months ago the crack lib safety team at Twitter suspended the account not realizing the site is satire.
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Good grief...why is everyone angry with NBC for "giving him a platform"? "Give a man enough rope..." as the saying goes. :?

Every time he gets in that situation, he continuously shows how unfit and unhinged he is. Just remarkable. The man lives in a fantasy world that seriously bears very little resemblance to the real world.

Absolutely gots to go...wow...

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dislaxxic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:27 am Good grief...why is everyone angry with NBC for "giving him a platform"? "Give a man enough rope..." as the saying goes. :?

Every time he gets in that situation, he continuously shows how unfit and unhinged he is. Just remarkable. The man lives in a fantasy world that seriously bears very little resemblance to the real world.

Absolutely gots to go...wow...

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Not only are your lib fellow travelers upset that NBC gave Trump a platform, now they are steaming mad that Dianne Feinstein had the gall to give Lindsay Graham a hug and tell him he ran the Barrett confirmation hearings well. The horror of coexistence. :lol:

I think it is fair to say that liberals and Democrats are broken. They can't and don't want to coexist with the very people who pay all of the taxes to fund their miserable lives.

I say we boot all Libs off to Venezuela where they can be miserable with each other, toast Castro and Chavez with their cheap liquor, and eat the last rats and dogs in the country.
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Peter Brown wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:46 am
dislaxxic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:27 am Good grief...why is everyone angry with NBC for "giving him a platform"? "Give a man enough rope..." as the saying goes. :?

Every time he gets in that situation, he continuously shows how unfit and unhinged he is. Just remarkable. The man lives in a fantasy world that seriously bears very little resemblance to the real world.

Absolutely gots to go...wow...

..


Not only are your lib fellow travelers upset that NBC gave Trump a platform, now they are steaming mad that Dianne Feinstein had the gall to give Lindsay Graham a hug and tell him he ran the Barrett confirmation hearings well. The horror of coexistence. :lol:

I think it is fair to say that liberals and Democrats are broken. They can't and don't want to coexist with the very people who pay all of the taxes to fund their miserable lives.

I say we boot all Libs off to Venezuela where they can be miserable with each other, toast Castro and Chavez with their cheap liquor, and eat the last rats and dogs in the country.
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Joe Biden said last night "If I become President I won't race bait!"

I seem to recall Joe bleating "If you don't know to vote for me or Trump YOU AIN"T BLACK."
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Feds examining whether alleged Hunter Biden emails are linked to a foreign intel operation
One email, which has not been confirmed to be authentic, suggested a meeting between Joe Biden and a rep from a Ukraine firm that once paid his son Hunter.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... n-n1243620

Ken Dilanian reporting:
Federal investigators are examining whether the emails allegedly describing activities by Joe Biden and his son Hunter and found on a laptop at a Delaware repair shop are linked to a foreign intelligence operation, two people familiar with the matter told NBC News.

The FBI seized the laptop and a hard drive through a grand jury subpoena. The subpoena was later published by the New York Post. The bureau has declined to comment.

The Post, a conservative tabloid, has published a series of stories based on emails the newspaper said it obtained from President Donald Trump’s attorney, Rudy Giuliani. The first story highlighted what it called a “smoking gun email” that suggested a meeting between Vice President Biden and a representative of a Ukrainian company that once paid Hunter Biden. The Biden campaign says there is no evidence the meeting happened, and the story was greeted with widespread skepticism.

George Mesires, attorney for Hunter Biden, said in a statement, “We have no idea where this came from, and certainly cannot credit anything that Rudy Giuliani provided to the New York Post, but what I do know for certain is that this purported meeting never happened.”

“The New York Post never asked the Biden campaign about the critical elements of this story,” said Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates. “They certainly never raised that Rudy Giuliani — whose discredited conspiracy theories and alliance with figures connected to Russian intelligence have been widely reported — claimed to have such materials.”

Bates added, “We have reviewed Joe Biden's official schedules from the time and no meeting, as alleged by the New York Post, ever took place."

Questions have swirled around the Post’s account of how it obtained the emails and other materials. The newspaper said they were found on a laptop left in a Delaware repair shop in April 2019 and never claimed. The repair shop owner then took it upon himself to access the private material, the Post said.

The Post said the shop owner, who has been identified as Mac Isaac, called the FBI, and also called a Giuliani associate. The shop owner said he believed the laptop was among equipment left by Hunter Biden, Joe Biden’s son, because a sticker on the laptop bore the name of the Beau Biden Foundation, a charity named after his late brother.

“Before turning over the gear, the shop owner says, he made a copy of the hard drive and later gave it to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello,” the Post said. “Steve Bannon, former adviser to President Trump, told The Post about the existence of the hard drive in late September and Giuliani provided The Post with a copy of it on Sunday.”

It remains unclear whether the emails cited by the Post are authentic or have been doctored.

Giuliani, who acknowledged helping bring the material to light, has in the past sought to unearth information damaging to Biden with the help of a man identified by the U.S. government as a Russian intelligence officer.

Questions about the provenance of the emails have led Facebook and Twitter to limit sharing of the story, prompting fierce criticism from Republicans.

In an interview published by the Daily Beast, Issac, the repair shop owner, did not answer key questions.

“Throughout the interview, Mac Isaac switched back and forth from saying he reached out to law enforcement after viewing the files in the laptop to saying that it was actually the FBI that contacted him,” the Beast wrote. NBC News has reached out to Isaac but has not heard back.

The Post published a grand jury subpoena for the laptop and hard drive. The subpoena had been issued by a federal prosecutor who already had the serial numbers of the devices when they were ordered to be handed over in early December 2019, indicating federal law enforcement was aware of the specific devices they want to examine.

“Other material extracted from the computer,” the Post said, “includes a raunchy, 12-minute video that appears to show Hunter, who’s admitted struggling with addiction problems, smoking crack while engaged in a sex act with an unidentified woman, as well as numerous other sexually explicit images.”

Many commentators have said it is hard to believe that Hunter Biden would abandon a Mac laptop full of incriminating information at a repair shop.

Some have speculated that the material could have been hacked from Hunter Biden’s accounts and put on the laptop as a cover story to offer a plausible explanation of how the material became public.

In January, it was reported that Burisma’s networks had been breached by Russian hackers.
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Surprised to see right leaning The Bulkward posting an essay by James Carville.


https://thebulwark.com/a-crusade-for-something-noble/
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CU88 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:22 am Surprised to see right leaning The Bulkward posting an essay by James Carville.


https://thebulwark.com/a-crusade-for-something-noble/


'right leaning'....omg, :lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys really believe everything thrown at you. The entirety of The Bulwark's online followers is the Left, hence they say what the Left eats up. The Bulwark crew is no more conservative than Hillary Clinton, who is the prototypical Bulwark follower.
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6ftstick wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:04 am Joe Biden said last night "If I become President I won't race bait!"

I seem to recall Joe bleating "If you don't know to vote for me or Trump YOU AIN"T BLACK."


Can we match these photos of Antifa arrested in Portland with Fanlax Dems?


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Winners, all. Proud to be in the Party of Kennedy and FDR! :lol: :lol:


(if it's not obvious by now that every stone cold loser in America identifies solely as a Democrat, please keep looking at these mugshots...thanks, a Grateful nation)
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Early returns show the Biden town hall beat the Trump town hall in ratings.

https://advanced-television.com/2020/10 ... v-ratings/

Biden also had larger view numbers on You Tube.

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DocBarrister wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:35 am Early returns show the Biden town hall beat the Trump town hall in ratings.

https://advanced-television.com/2020/10 ... v-ratings/

Biden also had larger view numbers on You Tube.

DocBarrister
Town hall moderated by the War Room boss of the Clinton Family.

Obviously neutral.

Mr Vice President what's your favorite color?

Mr Vice President how do you like your meat cooked?

Tastes Great? Less filling?

Tell us all about the evil cretin currently in the white House.

Go ahead I won't interrupt at all.
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DocBarrister wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:35 am Early returns show the Biden town hall beat the Trump town hall in ratings.

https://advanced-television.com/2020/10 ... v-ratings/

Biden also had larger view numbers on You Tube.

DocBarrister



weird that just yesterday the Left was saying 'ratings don't matter'...today they do! :lol:
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Evil cretin is a good term for the current occupant of the presidency.

You can complain all you want, but Biden does not react to being pressed by getting prickly and defensive like Trump. So when interviewed in this manner, you confuse genial answering of Biden with the interviewer not treating him the same - and you are right they are not treated the same.

Trump just cannot help himself because he throws out bald-faced lies that are so easy to check in real time (because they are rarely NEW lies) and Savannah actually pressed him on them. When he goes on Fox, he rarely gets challenged in any way).
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