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[a fan]

We can thank the Clintons and Obama for giving us Trump

No....we can thank you and your fellow Republicans for nominating him. If that didn't happen? We'd have Kasich if your team was ready to pull up a seat at the big boy table.

You're on the hook, old bean.

Kasich.

Yet one more example that you wouldn't know what a conservative was it he fell on you.

[seacoaster]

Sticks and stones....

Meaning what? It’s OK for the President to run his mouth indiscriminately? To disparage half of the country? To diminish the reality and importance of black Americans’ experience? To give Russia a pass on everything? To constantly rave about unsubstantiated election fraud and “rigging”? To attack any media that reports critically of him, his conduct and comportment, his health?

It is remarkable to me how narrow the right’s vision and understanding of the presidency has become in three short years. Tan suit? And it may cost us our democracy as we know it.

We can thank the Clintons and Obama for giving us Trump. One treated the WH like a whore house and backroom mob office, the other as if it was up for sale and needed torn down. Maybe if Joe wins we can turn it into a senior center, paint it roygbiv, and hand out drug paraphernalia.

How is the boat ride that HRC put you all in....getting closer to the waterfall yet?

Sorry; your "team" owns Trump. He beat 15 candidates, some of whom were creditable politicians and maybe even leadership material, and all of whom first publicly loathed Trump and now toady at the alter of him and his cult. No credible theory makes Trump result from President Obama -- that's fever swamp silliness and beneath you, or it was anyway.

Trump defeated an historically weak and bad-baggage-laden candidate, for sure; but your "team" turned to race-baiting, division, disparagement and Captain Bone Spurs for leadership. And now you have hooked into every trope tossed out for you about Biden, to provide the cover for the mortification and hypocrisy that results from voting for an irreligious, Bible-prop toting POS. I don't know how you shave.

[Brooklyn]

You running out of Cheetos and mountain dew...your comprehension is pathetic, as noted in my comments in red.

BLM is not associated with them nor would they know who they are since they were wearing masks over their faces.

[seacoaster]

Read on, MacDuff; it is all completely on brand for Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... Fstory-ans

"The sound of John F. Kelly’s silence is deafening.

For President Trump, it is devastating.

The former White House chief of staff has remained quiet in the face of Atlantic editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg’s report about Trump’s scornful comments about service members as “losers” and “suckers” — including Kelly’s son, killed in the line of duty.

Kelly is no Trump fan, not in the wake of his unceremonious firing and Trump’s derisive assessment. (“He got eaten alive,” Trump said Friday, suggesting Kelly might be a Goldberg source. “He was unable to handle the pressure of this job.")

But does anyone beyond the most reflexive Trump supporter really believe that a career Marine, a four-star general, a Gold Star father, would invent such a story — however it managed to make its way to Goldberg? Goldberg describes Trump’s visit with Kelly to Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day 2017. They stood at the grave of Kelly’s son Robert, killed at 29 in Afghanistan when he stepped on a landmine leading a platoon of Marines. “Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned directly to his father and said, ‘I don’t get it. What was in it for them?’” Goldberg writes.

Does anyone believe that Goldberg — an experienced and well-regarded journalist, with a track record of scoops and a deep bench of military sources — would make this up or run it without fully checking? Full disclosure: I’ve known Goldberg for more than 30 years, since he was an intern at The Post, and I have complete confidence in his professionalism. A credibility contest between Trump and Goldberg is no contest at all.

Not to mention: Every damning incident in the story is consistent with what we already know of Trump’s character and attitude toward military service. His avoidance of the Vietnam draft, with seemingly bogus claims of bone spurs. His public derision of the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), “I like people who weren’t captured.” His 2016 belittling of a Gold Star father who appeared at the Democratic convention.

So what should we make of Kelly’s silence? Ingrained habits of stoicism and convictions about duties of confidentiality and loyalty to a commander in chief, even this one, seem to be at work here. This is perplexing, to say the least. There are persuasive arguments on the other side about countervailing duties, including to warn the country about the man seeking a second term. But heroes are scarce among those who chose to serve Trump. Kelly’s tenure in “Crazytown,” as Bob Woodward quoted him in describing the Trump White House, included overseeing the implementation of the administration’s cruel policy of separating migrant children from their parents.

Nonetheless, if Kelly’s choice is silence, it is hard to interpret that as anything but tacit confirmation. If Goldberg were telling a false story about Kelly and his son, surely Kelly would offer some correction. Kelly does not often speak publicly of his son’s death, but he has done so in terms that are the compelling opposite of Trump’s transactional worldview.

“When you lose one in combat … in my opinion, there’s a pride that goes with it, that he didn’t have to be there doing what he was doing,” he said in 2016, shortly before his retirement from the military. It is precisely the selfless sacrifice that Trump is incapable of comprehending that provides Kelly with some solace.

Law students learn in their first-year contracts class that silence does not connote acceptance. (Except, of course, when it does; what would law be if not for loopholes?) Yet what may be a correct statement of law is not an accurate reflection of reality. In the Robert Bolt play “A Man for All Seasons,” Thomas More and Thomas Cromwell debate the various forms of silence and its significance — specifically, More’s silence on the legitimacy of Henry VIII’s marriage. Cromwell argues that More’s refusal to speak up “betokened” his disagreement with the king’s action; More, rather duplicitously, that his silence should be taken to indicate consent.

“Is that in fact what the world construes from it?” Cromwell asks him. “Do you pretend that is what you wish the world to construe from it?”

More responds, “The world must construe according to its wits; this court must construe according to the law.”

And so it is with Kelly. The world must construe his silence according to its wits, and judge Trump accordingly."

[Peter Brown]

We can thank the Clintons and Obama for giving us Trump

No....we can thank you and your fellow Republicans for nominating him. If that didn't happen? We'd have Kasich if your team was ready to pull up a seat at the big boy table.

You're on the hook, old bean.

Kasich.

Yet one more example that you wouldn't know what a conservative was it he fell on you.

Not opining on his ‘conservativism’. Just his electability. Which was and is zero.

[seacoaster]

More:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/20 ... reporting/

"Jennifer Griffin caused an unexpected media firestorm Friday when she did something fairly routine for a reporter: A competitor had broken a story on her beat, so she set out to see whether she could match it.

In this case, it was the Atlantic’s blockbuster report that President Trump had made disparaging remarks about veterans. Griffin, a national security correspondent for Fox News, found sources to validate key aspects of the story, sharing her reporting on Twitter and on anchor Bret Baier’s news show.

Other beat reporters had confirmed aspects of the Atlantic story, too. But the fact that Griffin works for Fox, whose opinion hosts and corporate owners are seen as reliable supporters and defenders of the president, turned her revelations into a watershed development. It led to Trump’s call for her firing late Friday on Twitter — and an impassioned pushback from Fox News colleagues defending her journalistic honor.

In a nine-tweet thread Friday afternoon, Griffin cited two unnamed former senior administration officials who she said confirmed for her many key aspects of Atlantic Editor in Chief Jeffrey Goldberg’s story about Trump’s cancellation of a trip to Aisne-Marne American Cemetery while visiting Paris in 2018.

“According to one former senior Trump administration official: ‘When the President spoke about the Vietnam War, he said, ‘It was a stupid war. Anyone who went was a sucker,’ ” she wrote. “When asked IF the President could have driven to the Aisne-Marne Cemetery, this former official said confidently: ‘The President drives a lot. The other world leaders drove to the cemeteries. He just didn’t want to go.’ ”

Later, she noted on Baier’s “Special Report” show that she was unable to confirm “the most salacious allegation,” in Goldberg’s story, “that the president described the American war dead at the Aisne-Marne Cemetery as ‘suckers’ and ‘losers.’ ”

Just before midnight Friday, the president shared a Breitbart.com story about Griffin’s reporting and said, “Jennifer Griffin should be fired for this kind of reporting. Never even called us for comment. @FoxNews is gone!”

Before the president took aim at her reporting, Griffin took veiled shots from some of her colleagues, most notably contributor Mollie Hemingway, a senior editor for the Federalist. After Fox News national correspondent Jacqui Heinrich shared Griffin’s reporting, Hemingway wrote: “Reminder: it is literally impossible for anonymous sources to ‘confirm’ a report, particularly when the original report is based solely on anonymous sources. The same people can repeat claims to multiple reporters, of course, particularly when engaged in a campaign operation.”

Elsewhere on Fox News, Griffin’s reporting did not seem to persuade some of her colleagues, including “The Five” co-host Greg Gutfeld, who called the Atlantic’s story “a hoax” and “a scam” that was “created in a lab.”

But Trump’s attack on Griffin was a bridge too far for her colleagues, seven of whom took to Twitter over the weekend to defend her.

“Jennifer @JenGriffinFNC is a great reporter and a total class act,” wrote Baier, the network’s chief political anchor.

“Jennifer Griffin is the kind of reporter we all strive to be like,” said national correspondent Bryan Llenas. “She’s courageous, smart, ethical, fair and a class act. She’s earned the trust of viewers throughout a distinguished career and is credibile.”

“@JenGriffinFNC is a terrific reporter and a wonderful colleague,” State Department correspondent Rich Edson wrote.

“I’ll forever stand by @JenGriffinFNC,” said senior news producer Rocco Aloe.

“Jennifer Griffin is all you want in a journalist and a friend,” wrote senior field producer Yonat Friling. “She’s smart, courageous, she strives for professionalism and the truth. I am so proud to be her colleague.”

Although Griffin’s reporter, producer and anchor colleagues defended her from criticism, Fox News Channel has not yet commented on Trump’s attack, in line with how the network has handled broadsides from the president throughout his administration.

Griffin, who joined Fox News in 1999, is one of the network’s most prized and distinguished journalists. In October 2019, after news anchor Shepard Smith, a frequent critic of the president, abruptly resigned, the network cited Griffin as evidence that a robust journalistic corps remained, despite external skepticism. “Tell that to Jennifer Griffin, whose report just went viral this week,” a spokesperson said at the time. “Or Chris Wallace, Bret Baier, Bill Hemmer, Martha MacCallum or Catherine Herridge, who have all done outstanding journalism.” (Herridge soon left the network for CBS News.)

“Jennifer is a straight shooter and always pursues reporting with the goal of uncovering the truth,” former Fox News foreign correspondent Conor Powell, who worked with Griffin, told The Washington Post on Saturday. “Unlike a lot of ‘news people’ at Fox News, she never was worried about being on the wrong side of a story and angering the opinion shows.”

Griffin defended herself during an appearance on Fox News on Saturday. “My sources are unimpeachable,” she said. “I feel very confident with what we have reported at Fox. Not every line of the Atlantic article did I confirm, but I would say that most of the descriptions and the quotes in that Atlantic article, I did find people who were able to confirm, and so I feel very confident in my reporting. … I’m a reporter, and it was my job to report what I heard.”

Anchor Neil Cavuto then endorsed her work. "Jennifer, you are a very good reporter,” he told her. Then, addressing his audience, he said, "She’s pretty scrupulous when it comes to making sure all the i’s are dotted, all the t’s are crossed.”

[a fan]

Not opining on his ‘conservativism’. Just his electability. Which was and is zero.

That's what they said about Trump.....

Your party doesn't want actual conservatives running things.

And that tells you allllll you need to know about 2020 Republicans.....

[Peter Brown]

Not opining on his ‘conservativism’. Just his electability. Which was and is zero.

That's what they said about Trump.....

Your party doesn't want actual conservatives running things.

And that tells you allllll you need to know about 2020 Republicans.....

You’re predictably missing the Republican base’s extreme frustration with electing said ‘conservatives’ only to watch them get rolled by the Harry Reid types. Trump was the answer to burn it all down. And the response to him by Democrats, media, and wide swaths of government proved the voters knew exactly what they were doing. It’s why he’ll be re-elected as well.

[a fan]

You’re predictably missing the Republican base’s extreme frustration with electing said ‘conservatives’ only to watch them get rolled by the Harry Reid types.

Still playing that game, are we? Republicans want to make government smaller and cut spending...but gee whiz golly, every time they're in power as they were from 2016-2018, the "forget" to make government smaller. And you want to blame "someone else" for that, do ya? Harry Freaking Reid is why----whoops----Trump "forgot" to cut government? That's your excuse?

Neat-o.

I'm not missing anything-----you just don't want to hear that Republicans were further to the left of Dems in 2016-2018.

They had two years, Pete. What did they do?

1. They didn't repeal Obamacare----because they know it helps their uneducated and poor base.
2. They didn't fix immigration----because they know it helps the 1%ers.
3. They made government FAR larger, because they know it helps their uneducated and poor base who can't hack it in the free market
4. They borrowed every cent of the $3Trillion+ in new spending bills, because they know it helps them get reelected
5. Trump didn't veto any one of these bills, Pete. He signed them...no Harry Reid needed.

Trump was the answer to burn it all down.

He didn't burn ANYTHING down. He made the DC Swamp double in size in three years, Pete. Wake up! DC is stronger than ever.

He made the Federal Government larger than it has ever been, Pete. Corruption is worse than ever. Spending is higher than ever. Borrowing is higher than ever.

And the response to him by Democrats, media, and wide swaths of government proved the voters knew exactly what they were doing.

Wide swaths of DC government LOVE Trump, Pete. Trump is a walking cash register-----and you are utterly blind if you don't see this.

Same goes for media. EVERYONE has higher ratings because of Trump. And you think they don't like him? Riiiiiiight. Rachel Maddow and Hannity are laughing all the way to the bank. Again, you're BLIND if you don't see that.

But yep, you can go right ahead and buy everything Trump is selling you---that everyone hates him. That he's draining the swamp. That's he's a conservative.

He, too, is cashing your checks, and laughing all the way to the bank. Well done, Pete. You let Donald Trump, who has the IQ of a squirrel...fool you.

[youthathletics]

We can thank the Clintons and Obama for giving us Trump

No....we can thank you and your fellow Republicans for nominating him. If that didn't happen? We'd have Kasich if your team was ready to pull up a seat at the big boy table.

You're on the hook, old bean.

Glad you agree with me that the Clintons and Obama gave us Trump. Carry on.

[a fan]

We can thank the Clintons and Obama for giving us Trump

No....we can thank you and your fellow Republicans for nominating him. If that didn't happen? We'd have Kasich if your team was ready to pull up a seat at the big boy table.

You're on the hook, old bean.

Glad you agree with me that the Clintons and Obama gave us Trump. Carry on.

Obama? You're blaming him?

Hillary? Absolutely. She's on the hook, too.

But your logic is totally off the rails if you think that the Republican Party, and the Republican voters----you know, the ones who put him in the White House-----are magically blameless for Trump.

[MDlaxfan76]

They are acting worse than Trump....and the d's around here seem to be enjoying it.

"around here"???

Do you mean on this forum?
I can't think of which Dem on this forum who 'seems to be enjoying' that aspect.
Who do you mean?

Intentionally avoiding the topic, instead....taking the low road and blaming trump or shooting the messenger. This is the one thing we could all agree on...and yet, even Biden was avoiding it, until Don Lemon blew the dog and Biden said anything. Again, as you often say, we can walk and chew gum....its as if whitey is afraid to say anything because this stemmed from the BLM movement.

It is also why I said months ago...someone in the black community needs to step up and tell these stupid arse white idiots to back the eff off, they are making it worse.

Is that what you mean by 'enjoying it'?
Pretty sure there hasn't been anyone on here gleefully cheering on looting and burning, nor the shaming and accosting common people in restaurants...

As to Biden, you're simply wrong (again).
Biden was very clear, back in June, where he stood on looting and burning, and violence in general.

That particular "whitey" stepped up early.

But, hey, that doesn't fit the hard right wing narrative...

[youthathletics]

We can thank the Clintons and Obama for giving us Trump

No....we can thank you and your fellow Republicans for nominating him. If that didn't happen? We'd have Kasich if your team was ready to pull up a seat at the big boy table.

You're on the hook, old bean.

Glad you agree with me that the Clintons and Obama gave us Trump. Carry on.

Obama? You're blaming him?

Hillary? Absolutely. She's on the hook, too.

But your logic is totally off the rails if you think that the Republican Party, and the Republican voters----you know, the ones who put him in the White House-----are magically blameless for Trump.

That is like blaming your wife for getting a flat tire when you dropped the box of nails in the garage. You set up the incident, and your lack of cleaning up your mess had consequences. Certainly R's are to blame as are the D's....we were all left with two piles of poo...why? Becuase, HRC and BHO.

[youthathletics]

They are acting worse than Trump....and the d's around here seem to be enjoying it.

"around here"???

Do you mean on this forum?
I can't think of which Dem on this forum who 'seems to be enjoying' that aspect.
Who do you mean?

Intentionally avoiding the topic, instead....taking the low road and blaming trump or shooting the messenger. This is the one thing we could all agree on...and yet, even Biden was avoiding it, until Don Lemon blew the dog and Biden said anything. Again, as you often say, we can walk and chew gum....its as if whitey is afraid to say anything because this stemmed from the BLM movement.

It is also why I said months ago...someone in the black community needs to step up and tell these stupid arse white idiots to back the eff off, they are making it worse.

Is that what you mean by 'enjoying it'?
Pretty sure there hasn't been anyone on here gleefully cheering on looting and burning, nor the shaming and accosting common people in restaurants...

As to Biden, you're simply wrong (again).
Biden was very clear, back in June, where he stood on looting and burning, and violence in general.

That particular "whitey" stepped up early.

But, hey, that doesn't fit the hard right wing narrative...

Okay...

[a fan]

That is like blaming your wife for getting a flat tire when you dropped the box of nails in the garage

Terrible analogy. But let's use it anyway....

The Republican party nominating Trump is the box of nails.

So if there isn't a box of nails in the first place? Both you AND your wife are in the clear from getting a flat tire.......

[MDlaxfan76]

They are acting worse than Trump....and the d's around here seem to be enjoying it.

"around here"???

Do you mean on this forum?
I can't think of which Dem on this forum who 'seems to be enjoying' that aspect.
Who do you mean?

Intentionally avoiding the topic, instead....taking the low road and blaming trump or shooting the messenger. This is the one thing we could all agree on...and yet, even Biden was avoiding it, until Don Lemon blew the dog and Biden said anything. Again, as you often say, we can walk and chew gum....its as if whitey is afraid to say anything because this stemmed from the BLM movement.

It is also why I said months ago...someone in the black community needs to step up and tell these stupid arse white idiots to back the eff off, they are making it worse.

Is that what you mean by 'enjoying it'?
Pretty sure there hasn't been anyone on here gleefully cheering on looting and burning, nor the shaming and accosting common people in restaurants...

As to Biden, you're simply wrong (again).
Biden was very clear, back in June, where he stood on looting and burning, and violence in general.

That particular "whitey" stepped up early.

But, hey, that doesn't fit the hard right wing narrative...

Okay...

peace.

[MDlaxfan76]

More:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/20 ... reporting/

"Jennifer Griffin caused an unexpected media firestorm Friday when she did something fairly routine for a reporter: A competitor had broken a story on her beat, so she set out to see whether she could match it.

In this case, it was the Atlantic’s blockbuster report that President Trump had made disparaging remarks about veterans. Griffin, a national security correspondent for Fox News, found sources to validate key aspects of the story, sharing her reporting on Twitter and on anchor Bret Baier’s news show.

Other beat reporters had confirmed aspects of the Atlantic story, too. But the fact that Griffin works for Fox, whose opinion hosts and corporate owners are seen as reliable supporters and defenders of the president, turned her revelations into a watershed development. It led to Trump’s call for her firing late Friday on Twitter — and an impassioned pushback from Fox News colleagues defending her journalistic honor.

In a nine-tweet thread Friday afternoon, Griffin cited two unnamed former senior administration officials who she said confirmed for her many key aspects of Atlantic Editor in Chief Jeffrey Goldberg’s story about Trump’s cancellation of a trip to Aisne-Marne American Cemetery while visiting Paris in 2018.

“According to one former senior Trump administration official: ‘When the President spoke about the Vietnam War, he said, ‘It was a stupid war. Anyone who went was a sucker,’ ” she wrote. “When asked IF the President could have driven to the Aisne-Marne Cemetery, this former official said confidently: ‘The President drives a lot. The other world leaders drove to the cemeteries. He just didn’t want to go.’ ”

Later, she noted on Baier’s “Special Report” show that she was unable to confirm “the most salacious allegation,” in Goldberg’s story, “that the president described the American war dead at the Aisne-Marne Cemetery as ‘suckers’ and ‘losers.’ ”

Just before midnight Friday, the president shared a Breitbart.com story about Griffin’s reporting and said, “Jennifer Griffin should be fired for this kind of reporting. Never even called us for comment. @FoxNews is gone!”

Before the president took aim at her reporting, Griffin took veiled shots from some of her colleagues, most notably contributor Mollie Hemingway, a senior editor for the Federalist. After Fox News national correspondent Jacqui Heinrich shared Griffin’s reporting, Hemingway wrote: “Reminder: it is literally impossible for anonymous sources to ‘confirm’ a report, particularly when the original report is based solely on anonymous sources. The same people can repeat claims to multiple reporters, of course, particularly when engaged in a campaign operation.”

Elsewhere on Fox News, Griffin’s reporting did not seem to persuade some of her colleagues, including “The Five” co-host Greg Gutfeld, who called the Atlantic’s story “a hoax” and “a scam” that was “created in a lab.”

But Trump’s attack on Griffin was a bridge too far for her colleagues, seven of whom took to Twitter over the weekend to defend her.

“Jennifer @JenGriffinFNC is a great reporter and a total class act,” wrote Baier, the network’s chief political anchor.

“Jennifer Griffin is the kind of reporter we all strive to be like,” said national correspondent Bryan Llenas. “She’s courageous, smart, ethical, fair and a class act. She’s earned the trust of viewers throughout a distinguished career and is credibile.”

“@JenGriffinFNC is a terrific reporter and a wonderful colleague,” State Department correspondent Rich Edson wrote.

“I’ll forever stand by @JenGriffinFNC,” said senior news producer Rocco Aloe.

“Jennifer Griffin is all you want in a journalist and a friend,” wrote senior field producer Yonat Friling. “She’s smart, courageous, she strives for professionalism and the truth. I am so proud to be her colleague.”

Although Griffin’s reporter, producer and anchor colleagues defended her from criticism, Fox News Channel has not yet commented on Trump’s attack, in line with how the network has handled broadsides from the president throughout his administration.

Griffin, who joined Fox News in 1999, is one of the network’s most prized and distinguished journalists. In October 2019, after news anchor Shepard Smith, a frequent critic of the president, abruptly resigned, the network cited Griffin as evidence that a robust journalistic corps remained, despite external skepticism. “Tell that to Jennifer Griffin, whose report just went viral this week,” a spokesperson said at the time. “Or Chris Wallace, Bret Baier, Bill Hemmer, Martha MacCallum or Catherine Herridge, who have all done outstanding journalism.” (Herridge soon left the network for CBS News.)

“Jennifer is a straight shooter and always pursues reporting with the goal of uncovering the truth,” former Fox News foreign correspondent Conor Powell, who worked with Griffin, told The Washington Post on Saturday. “Unlike a lot of ‘news people’ at Fox News, she never was worried about being on the wrong side of a story and angering the opinion shows.”

Griffin defended herself during an appearance on Fox News on Saturday. “My sources are unimpeachable,” she said. “I feel very confident with what we have reported at Fox. Not every line of the Atlantic article did I confirm, but I would say that most of the descriptions and the quotes in that Atlantic article, I did find people who were able to confirm, and so I feel very confident in my reporting. … I’m a reporter, and it was my job to report what I heard.”

Anchor Neil Cavuto then endorsed her work. "Jennifer, you are a very good reporter,” he told her. Then, addressing his audience, he said, "She’s pretty scrupulous when it comes to making sure all the i’s are dotted, all the t’s are crossed.”

Definitely worth reading what so many journalists at Fox News have said on this topic.

[DMac]

I don't really see anything there that is at all hard to believe, Jennifer isn't even telling us anything we didn't already know.
This is who he always has been and still is. There's never been a question in my mind that Trump has no respect for those who choose to serve in the military, this is a fool's path in his way of thinking. It makes me sick to see him around military people, it's nothing but a show and flowery words, nary a one sincere. You just don't say stuff like comparing your STD war to Vietnam and the stuff he said about McCain (whether you like the guy or not) unless you're a complete aszwhole and have no respect for those in uniform. So, as I said, nothing new here.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I don't really see anything there that is at all hard to believe, Jennifer isn't even telling us anything we didn't already know.
This is who he always has been and still is. There's never been a question in my mind that Trump has no respect for those who choose to serve in the military, this is a fool's path in his way of thinking. It makes me sick to see him around military people, it's nothing but a show and flowery words, nary a one sincere. You just don't say stuff like comparing your STD war to Vietnam and the stuff he said about McCain (whether you like the guy or not) unless you're a complete aszwhole and have no respect for those in uniform. So, as I said, nothing new here.

What’s amazing is the type of people that defend Trump here....the chain of command types.

[ggait]

Trump's triple confirmed statements dissing the military reminded me of something when I heard them.

Then I remembered it. Here it is:

The scene: Surprise birthday party. December 1941. The Corleone dining room table.

Tessio: I understand thirty thousand men enlisted this morning.
Sonny: A bunch of saps.
Michael: Why are they saps?
Connie: Sonny, come on. We don’t have to talk about the war.
Sonny: Hey beat it—you go talk to Carlo alright? (To Michael) They’re saps because they risk their lives for strangers.
Michael: Now that’s Pop talking.
Sonny: You’re [expletive] right that’s Pop talking.
Michael: They risk their lives for their country.
Sonny: Your country ain’t your blood—you remember that.
Michael: I don’t feel that way.
Sonny (echoing Michael): “I don’t feel that way.” Well if you don’t feel like that why don’t you just quit college and go join the Army?
Michael: I did—I enlisted in the Marines.

Reports are that when DJTJ decided to enlist in the military, DJT threatened to disinherit him if he followed through on it.

Awesome how the Trump cultists will accept literally anything from their degenerate Dear Leader.