Re: President Elect Biden
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:48 pm
As for your noting Joe's being in school to avoid Vietnam (or maybe not) note that about millions of others his age as well. Jus' sayin'.
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It means you have reached the ultimate level of incompetence you can possibly achieve. I thought trump already proved this principle in spades?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:30 pm What does the Peter Principle mean if you’ve just achieved the highest position possible?
I'll wager all the money in my pockets against all the money in yours that Biden will be hammered by the Water Cooler left and center 10x more than Trump was criticized here by his enablers.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:16 pm I agree with the notion that the Trump Supporters sold their souls and were awfully quiet for the past 4 years about his lies, crimes and bs. But what has happened to those same super-sensitive NeverTrumpers and Resisters? Seems like they sold their souls down the river too.
All the people here complaining about me pointing out Biden's foibles are the ones who railed Trump over more, same, and lesser things. Now they are letting Joe and the Dems off the hook. Cause he "Ain't Trump." Sorry, but Biden hasn't earned a pass. I'm not canonizing him because he's "anyone but Trump." How quickly many forget 45+ years of mediocrity and political Same Old Sh1t (SoS).
There is a positive side to Joe never having served. I can think of how many infantry soldiers lives were saved not having had Joe leading them into combat. Joe probably would have been the next leader of the lost platoon.
I was under the impression it meant you were in the position that you deserve to being in from a capability perspective.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:49 pmIt means you have reached the ultimate level of incompetence you can possibly achieve. I thought trump already proved this principle in spades?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:30 pm What does the Peter Principle mean if you’ve just achieved the highest position possible?
This is the slimy game you guys play. Recasting people. Trying to silence them. Rather than straight up engaging them on what they say.
One step above where you should be, based upon your capabilities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:07 pmI was under the impression it meant you were in the position that you deserve to being in from a capability perspective.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:49 pmIt means you have reached the ultimate level of incompetence you can possibly achieve. I thought trump already proved this principle in spades?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:30 pm What does the Peter Principle mean if you’ve just achieved the highest position possible?
This is really unfair, cradle. You figure there weren't multitudes of platoon leaders who weren't worse than Joe might've been? You really have no idea how good or bad a platoon leader Joe might have been as a young man.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:02 pmThere is a positive side to Joe never having served. I can think of how many infantry soldiers lives were saved not having had Joe leading them into combat. Joe probably would have been the next leader of the lost platoon.
Did you miss the subsequent discussion?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:10 pmThis is the slimy game you guys play. Recasting people. Trying to silence them. Rather than straight up engaging them on what they say.
Do you really think people are so stupid to not see what you are doing ?
Is this the new strategy trying to squelch any criticism of Biden. Weak.
How do you know Joe Biden would have been an officer?DMac wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:15 pmThis is really unfair, cradle. You figure there weren't multitudes of platoon leaders who weren't worse than Joe might've been? You really have no idea how good or bad a platoon leader Joe might have been as a young man.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:02 pmThere is a positive side to Joe never having served. I can think of how many infantry soldiers lives were saved not having had Joe leading them into combat. Joe probably would have been the next leader of the lost platoon.
You mean like calling anyone who dares to criticize Trump as having TDS...telling posters they're literally insane for criticizing what their leaders say or do? Or squealing "Orange Man Bad'? Or telling us that we're stupid if we take what our President says literally?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:10 pm This is the slimy game you guys play. Recasting people. Trying to silence them. Rather than straight up engaging them on what they say.
Do you really think people are so stupid to not see what you are doing ?
Is this the new strategy trying to squelch any criticism of Biden. Weak.
It maybe unfair but I am not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. We will never know because Joe never served. He never had bone spurs but he sure had an aversion to being shot at. I suppose that is not abnormal for many people of his generation. When your planning your career as a politician you can't let anything get in your way. Being KIA would sure be an impediment to that career choice. Especially in some chithole like vietnam.DMac wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:15 pmThis is really unfair, cradle. You figure there weren't multitudes of platoon leaders who weren't worse than Joe might've been? You really have no idea how good or bad a platoon leader Joe might have been as a young man.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:02 pmThere is a positive side to Joe never having served. I can think of how many infantry soldiers lives were saved not having had Joe leading them into combat. Joe probably would have been the next leader of the lost platoon.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who made him a platoon leader, but to answer your question, I don't know. Rank or position really has nothing to do with my point though. How a soldier is going to react under combat conditions is incidental to rank, no one here has any idea how Joe would have. They never had to find out how they would have either, so whose to say they would have been a better soldier?Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:31 pmHow do you know Joe Biden would have been an officer?DMac wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:15 pmThis is really unfair, cradle. You figure there weren't multitudes of platoon leaders who weren't worse than Joe might've been? You really have no idea how good or bad a platoon leader Joe might have been as a young man.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:02 pmThere is a positive side to Joe never having served. I can think of how many infantry soldiers lives were saved not having had Joe leading them into combat. Joe probably would have been the next leader of the lost platoon.
Do you seriously maintain that the personal & political attacks leveled here against Biden have been anywhere close to those directed against Trump, in volume or intensity ? They have not been sufficient in number or frequency to be characterized as a syndrome.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:35 pmYou mean like calling anyone who dares to criticize Trump as having TDS...telling posters they're literally insane for criticizing what their leaders say or do? Or squealing "Orange Man Bad'? Or telling us that we're stupid if we take what our President says literally?old salt wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:10 pm This is the slimy game you guys play. Recasting people. Trying to silence them. Rather than straight up engaging them on what they say.
Do you really think people are so stupid to not see what you are doing ?
Is this the new strategy trying to squelch any criticism of Biden. Weak.
Not once. But nonstop. For four freaking years. Constantly gaslighting. Constantly mocking any and all criticisms as crying.
And the cherry on top? Now here you are, hitting posters for doing what you did. For four freaking years.
Congratulations, you now are the proud record holder as the least self-aware person on the Forum.
He hasn't taken office yet, for one.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:57 pm Do you seriously maintain that the personal & political attacks leveled here against Biden have been anywhere close to those directed against Trump, in volume or intensity ? They have not been sufficient in number or frequency to be characterized as a syndrome.
Biden has not been criticized sufficiently to merit attempts to shut down his critics.
Heaven forbid we deal with a real crisis in Feb or Mar that we're not ready for.......and we'll get to hear all the lovely excuses from TrumpFans as to why it's ok that Trump is throwing a temper tantrum, and putting our nation at risk right now.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:43 pm Looks like Trump's corporate support is starting to bail. They are calling for the Biden transition to begin.
U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers had meetings yesterday with GSA and told them "time is up". Big Wall Street Money Managers are unhappy but have not yet expressed their feelings directly. A handful of industrial companies are also unhappy with the situation (reporters claim) but again no one has spoken to GSA or Trump as far as anyone knows.
Not really surprising.
Trump to any politician, EVER? Maybe, maybe not. There are some sleazy ones out there:dislaxxic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:07 pm So, are you saying that Trump's personality, his past behaviors, attitudes, temperament and business practices are IN ANY WAY comparable to Joe Biden's, or to just about ANY politician now or ever existing? There are probably a few uber-sleazy businessmen that come close, but to imply that Trump's behavior, his morals, his attitudes are NOT flat out uniquely deplorable, is to permanently screw your tinfoil hat on so tight that it will never come off.
If there has EVER been a politician more deserving of the enmity and scorn of a nation...well...he is that guy.
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