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Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:29 pm
by a fan
6ftstick wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:08 am Their team wants

Abortion up to and including delivery
Paid for by federal funds

the elimination of the electoral college

End of the filibuster

free healthcare AND open borders

Defunding the police

The green new deal

Socialism

Elimination of the first second fourth and fifth amendments

And we've lost our way?
Yes. What are you offering, 6ft? That's how this country works. If your team has better answers to our health, infrastructure, education and other domestic problems.....you'll win in the war of ideas, and you'll get the votes and stay in power.

What's your counter to the above proposals? By every metric-----education, access to health care, infrastructure, police killings, energy usage, etc.....we're falling behind other 1st world nations.

So what do you have, besides "the Dems are bad"??

I can rattle off dozens of ideas given out by Nixon and other Republicans in the 60's and 70's that addressed these issues, 6ft. Where are the big ideas from your party?

You should be able to list them off the top of your head.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:41 pm
by Kismet
a fan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:29 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:08 am Their team wants

Abortion up to and including delivery
Paid for by federal funds

the elimination of the electoral college

End of the filibuster

free healthcare AND open borders

Defunding the police

The green new deal

Socialism

Elimination of the first second fourth and fifth amendments

And we've lost our way?
Yes. What are you offering, 6ft? That's how this country works. If your team has better answers to our health, infrastructure, education and other domestic problems.....you'll win in the war of ideas, and you'll get the votes and stay in power.

What's your counter to the above proposals? By every metric-----education, access to health care, infrastructure, police killings, energy usage, etc.....we're falling behind other 1st world nations.

So what do you have, besides "the Dems are bad"??

I can rattle off dozens of ideas given out by Nixon and other Republicans in the 60's and 70's that addressed these issues, 6ft. Where are the big ideas from your party?

You should be able to list them off the top of your head.
Perhaps should be asking why local TV station requires armed security to cover right wing protests who then maced people they apparently disagreed with......not to mention that TWO firearms were recovered at the scene and only one belonged to the security guard who allegedly fired the fatal shot.

What happened to all the Rittenhouse-sympathetic self-defense aficionados around here? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:41 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:45 pm
by seacoaster
The shamelessness of the Trump administration and campaign (and, we can be honest, they are one in the same) is a special sort of venal, grasping dirt:

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... 4220537858

Imagine a second term unfettered. A vote for Trump is fundamentally un-American.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:45 pm
by Peter Brown
RedFromMI wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:22 pm The man being held is a Pinkerton guard hired by a local TV station to provide security for them. Whether any purported political affiliation is responsible for fueling the argument that led to the killing is complete speculation that PB is wont to do, whether or not he has evidence of that being material.

But the man charged was hired to be there, and was not there to be an "anti" anything. I would let the judicial process play out before making such accusations.

So of course law enforcement will look into possible motives. But to say this is definitively an example of "far-left" violence is extremely premature.



I don’t have enough time to list all that’s wrong with your post. I swear your media sources are useless.

I’ll try to help.

1. There’s video of the just before argument between the deceased Lee Keltner and a totally out of control Antifa BLM goon. Keltner walks away from that only to be shot by the killer. Here:

https://twitter.com/brittany3l/status/1 ... 67648?s=21

2. Keltner is a good dude. Watch this:

https://twitter.com/thedemureshark/stat ... 71616?s=21

3. The shooter Matthew Dolloff’s social media is standard fare bat guano insane TDS with a sprinkling of anarchy:

https://twitter.com/whjtehovse/status/1 ... 50370?s=21

What is happening in cities is news orgs are hiring Antifa to protect news journos from antifa. This appears to have occurred here in Denver. The shooter is nowhere near his cameraman or reporter and likely says something to Keltner after Keltner walked away from the Antifa guy looking for a fight.

Having said all that, you might be partially correct so I’ll wait too. What saddens me is Democrats have run from a guy (Keltner) who is nothing more than an artisan who supports police. That’s his crime. Think about who you’re aligning yourselves with, and against.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:47 pm
by Peter Brown
seacoaster wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:45 pm The shamelessness of the Trump administration and campaign (and, we can be honest, they are one in the same) is a special sort of venal, grasping dirt:

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... 4220537858

Imagine a second term unfettered. A vote for Trump is fundamentally un-American.


Vote instead for this:

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Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:28 pm
by ggait
Regardless of politics, lock up all the armed jackasses. Lefty, righty both. Antifa, militia, stupid Kyle, whatev.

If you want to protest, leave the forking guns at home.

Problem solved.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:41 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
ggait wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:28 pm Regardless of politics, lock up all the armed jackasses. Lefty, righty both. Antifa, militia, stupid Kyle, whatev.

If you want to protest, leave the forking guns at home.

Problem solved.
+1000

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:45 pm
by youthathletics
ggait wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:28 pm Regardless of politics, lock up all the armed jackasses. Lefty, righty both. Antifa, militia, stupid Kyle, whatev.

If you want to protest, leave the forking guns at home.

Problem solved.
Are guns like masks....You wear them to protect yourself and other's where needed?

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:51 pm
by PizzaSnake
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:45 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:28 pm Regardless of politics, lock up all the armed jackasses. Lefty, righty both. Antifa, militia, stupid Kyle, whatev.

If you want to protest, leave the forking guns at home.

Problem solved.
Are guns like masks....You wear them to protect yourself and other's where needed?
No. Guns are highly specialized tools that few know how to use and fewer still need.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:55 pm
by youthathletics
PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:51 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:45 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:28 pm Regardless of politics, lock up all the armed jackasses. Lefty, righty both. Antifa, militia, stupid Kyle, whatev.

If you want to protest, leave the forking guns at home.

Problem solved.
Are guns like masks....You wear them to protect yourself and other's where needed?
No. Guns are highly specialized tools that few know how to use and fewer still need.
Principal still applies. ;)

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:57 pm
by seacoaster
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:55 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:51 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:45 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:28 pm Regardless of politics, lock up all the armed jackasses. Lefty, righty both. Antifa, militia, stupid Kyle, whatev.

If you want to protest, leave the forking guns at home.

Problem solved.
Are guns like masks....You wear them to protect yourself and other's where needed?
No. Guns are highly specialized tools that few know how to use and fewer still need.
Principal still applies. ;)
No. It’s distressing that you think it does.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:59 pm
by PizzaSnake
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:55 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:51 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:45 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:28 pm Regardless of politics, lock up all the armed jackasses. Lefty, righty both. Antifa, militia, stupid Kyle, whatev.

If you want to protest, leave the forking guns at home.

Problem solved.
Are guns like masks....You wear them to protect yourself and other's where needed?
No. Guns are highly specialized tools that few know how to use and fewer still need.
Principal still applies. ;)
Principle?

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:06 pm
by seacoaster
Amateur Hour:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/ ... ssion=true

“ As his presidency lurches toward a climactic judgment on Nov. 3, the little things lately have rarely gone more pervasively or embarrassingly wrong — at a time when public confidence in Trump’s handling of the big things is hardly robust.

The initial reaction might be, So what’s new here? But recent days, in the wake of Trump being stricken with coronavirus, have highlighted just how the lurching improvisation that is a familiar phenomenon around Trump has entered a different phase. The professionals around the president aren’t merely laboring to contain and channel the disruptive politician they work for. Very often they are amplifying the chaos.

That’s in part because, as his first term comes to a close, the professionals around Trump are not all that professional. It is now the exception in key staff and Cabinet posts to have people whose experience would be commensurate with that of people who have typically held those jobs in previous administrations of both parties. This major weakness has been revealing itself in a barrage of minor errors that summon Casey Stengel’s incredulous question about the 1962 New York Mets: Can’t anybody here play this game?

There have been prominent misspellings in official White House statements (the pharmaceutical company whose treatment Trump took is Regeneron, not Regeron). Trump bungled the name of a well-known Republican senator (that’s James Inhofe, not Imhofe) in a video message. Communications Director Alyssa Farah did much the same in a television interview, repeatedly mispronouncing the name of Trump’s physician (it’s Dr. Sean Conley, with two syllables, not Connelly with three).

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and National Economic Council director Larry Kudlow on Wednesday contradicted each other in public remarks on whether a recuperating, but still possibly infectious, Trump had been in the Oval Office the day before. (Kudlow thought he had, Meadows was apparently right that on that day Trump hadn’t.)

Press secretary Kayleigh McEnany’s briefings are largely dismissed as mere entertainment by reporters, not a source of reliable information or, on frequent occasions, any information at all. Earlier this month, she didn’t know at her own briefing that presidential counselor Hope Hicks, to whom she had been exposed, had tested positive for the virus. After Farah publicly promised to release the numbers of White House aides infected with coronavirus, a few hours later McEnany said they wouldn’t provide those numbers for “privacy” reasons.

Robert O’Brien, Trump’s national security adviser, told a university audience on Wednesday that the U.S. would draw down troop levels in Afghanistan to 2,500 by “early next year,” only to be contradicted by Trump a few hours later in a tweet that the U.S. would have all troops out of Afghanistan by Christmas.

What’s been going on in recent days is not an anomaly, but it does represent a new apogee in a trend that has been building for nearly four years. Trump has been waging an internal war within his administration since his first days in office. Often the targets have been people with independent judgment or significant records of achievement before joining the administration.

It’s easy to dismiss these flubs as minor communications errors, but communicating with the public is one of the most important things White Houses do. And this one has made such a hash of things that it has compounded the very real substantive problems confronting an administration that has more of its fair share of those as well.

This phenomenon goes beyond matters relating to Trump’s personal health or politics to matters of foreign policy on which previous administrations have previously operated on the assumption that, when the world is watching, it is critical to speak with precision and clear purpose.”

Imagine a second term. Unfettered. Unhinged.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:10 pm
by ggait
MLK and John Lewis knew how to protest. They weren't armed jackasses looking for a fight. They were serious about their cause.

Stupid Kyle wouldn't be facing murder charges if he was just interested in exercising his first amendment rights. But he really was most interested in looking for a fight in a terribly mis-guided way. Unfortunately for him, he found one. That's why he's stupid -- because he ruined his life (and several others) idiotically thinking that he was just asserting his second amendment "ruuuuyuts." Since we live in a free country, our citizens need to understand that everything that is legal is not wise or useful or safe.

If you want to protest, leave the weaponry at home. Left, right or something else. Duh.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:15 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
seacoaster wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:06 pm Amateur Hour:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/ ... ssion=true

“ As his presidency lurches toward a climactic judgment on Nov. 3, the little things lately have rarely gone more pervasively or embarrassingly wrong — at a time when public confidence in Trump’s handling of the big things is hardly robust.

The initial reaction might be, So what’s new here? But recent days, in the wake of Trump being stricken with coronavirus, have highlighted just how the lurching improvisation that is a familiar phenomenon around Trump has entered a different phase. The professionals around the president aren’t merely laboring to contain and channel the disruptive politician they work for. Very often they are amplifying the chaos.

That’s in part because, as his first term comes to a close, the professionals around Trump are not all that professional. It is now the exception in key staff and Cabinet posts to have people whose experience would be commensurate with that of people who have typically held those jobs in previous administrations of both parties. This major weakness has been revealing itself in a barrage of minor errors that summon Casey Stengel’s incredulous question about the 1962 New York Mets: Can’t anybody here play this game?

There have been prominent misspellings in official White House statements (the pharmaceutical company whose treatment Trump took is Regeneron, not Regeron). Trump bungled the name of a well-known Republican senator (that’s James Inhofe, not Imhofe) in a video message. Communications Director Alyssa Farah did much the same in a television interview, repeatedly mispronouncing the name of Trump’s physician (it’s Dr. Sean Conley, with two syllables, not Connelly with three).

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and National Economic Council director Larry Kudlow on Wednesday contradicted each other in public remarks on whether a recuperating, but still possibly infectious, Trump had been in the Oval Office the day before. (Kudlow thought he had, Meadows was apparently right that on that day Trump hadn’t.)

Press secretary Kayleigh McEnany’s briefings are largely dismissed as mere entertainment by reporters, not a source of reliable information or, on frequent occasions, any information at all. Earlier this month, she didn’t know at her own briefing that presidential counselor Hope Hicks, to whom she had been exposed, had tested positive for the virus. After Farah publicly promised to release the numbers of White House aides infected with coronavirus, a few hours later McEnany said they wouldn’t provide those numbers for “privacy” reasons.

Robert O’Brien, Trump’s national security adviser, told a university audience on Wednesday that the U.S. would draw down troop levels in Afghanistan to 2,500 by “early next year,” only to be contradicted by Trump a few hours later in a tweet that the U.S. would have all troops out of Afghanistan by Christmas.

What’s been going on in recent days is not an anomaly, but it does represent a new apogee in a trend that has been building for nearly four years. Trump has been waging an internal war within his administration since his first days in office. Often the targets have been people with independent judgment or significant records of achievement before joining the administration.

It’s easy to dismiss these flubs as minor communications errors, but communicating with the public is one of the most important things White Houses do. And this one has made such a hash of things that it has compounded the very real substantive problems confronting an administration that has more of its fair share of those as well.

This phenomenon goes beyond matters relating to Trump’s personal health or politics to matters of foreign policy on which previous administrations have previously operated on the assumption that, when the world is watching, it is critical to speak with precision and clear purpose.”

Imagine a second term. Unfettered. Unhinged.
And people wonder why his businesses tanked.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:28 pm
by youthathletics

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:58 pm
by 6ftstick
a fan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:29 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:08 am Their team wants

Abortion up to and including delivery
Paid for by federal funds

the elimination of the electoral college

End of the filibuster

free healthcare AND open borders

Defunding the police

The green new deal

Socialism

Elimination of the first second fourth and fifth amendments

And we've lost our way?
Yes. What are you offering, 6ft? That's how this country works. If your team has better answers to our health, infrastructure, education and other domestic problems.....you'll win in the war of ideas, and you'll get the votes and stay in power.

What's your counter to the above proposals? By every metric-----education, access to health care, infrastructure, police killings, energy usage, etc.....we're falling behind other 1st world nations.

So what do you have, besides "the Dems are bad"??

I can rattle off dozens of ideas given out by Nixon and other Republicans in the 60's and 70's that addressed these issues, 6ft. Where are the big ideas from your party?

You should be able to list them off the top of your head.
We're offering the country as founded.

Three separate branches of government

Legislation that begins in the house

Distinct enforced borders.

First amendment protection

Second amendment protection.

Fourth Amendment protection.

Innocence until proven guilty

A raging economy based on inexpensive readily available fossil fuels

Less regulation

Energy independence.

C A P I T A L I S M

Law and Order.

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:01 pm
by Peter Brown
6ftstick wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:58 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:29 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:08 am Their team wants

Abortion up to and including delivery
Paid for by federal funds

the elimination of the electoral college

End of the filibuster

free healthcare AND open borders

Defunding the police

The green new deal

Socialism

Elimination of the first second fourth and fifth amendments

And we've lost our way?
Yes. What are you offering, 6ft? That's how this country works. If your team has better answers to our health, infrastructure, education and other domestic problems.....you'll win in the war of ideas, and you'll get the votes and stay in power.

What's your counter to the above proposals? By every metric-----education, access to health care, infrastructure, police killings, energy usage, etc.....we're falling behind other 1st world nations.

So what do you have, besides "the Dems are bad"??

I can rattle off dozens of ideas given out by Nixon and other Republicans in the 60's and 70's that addressed these issues, 6ft. Where are the big ideas from your party?

You should be able to list them off the top of your head.
We're offering the country as founded.

Three separate branches of government

Legislation that begins in the house

Distinct enforced borders.

First amendment protection

Second amendment protection.

Fourth Amendment protection.

Innocence until proven guilty

A raging economy based on inexpensive readily available fossil fuels

Less regulation

Energy independence.

C A P I T A L I S M

Law and Order.


This list seems so sensible...why do Lefties fight it?

Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:01 pm
by 6ftstick
PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:51 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:45 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:28 pm Regardless of politics, lock up all the armed jackasses. Lefty, righty both. Antifa, militia, stupid Kyle, whatev.

If you want to protest, leave the forking guns at home.

Problem solved.
Are guns like masks....You wear them to protect yourself and other's where needed?
No. Guns are highly specialized tools that few know how to use and fewer still need.
we'll see if that's true after November 3.