old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:45 pm
Don't rant & troll for a response {crickets}, then cry when it's not what you want to hear.
Crying? Try
laughing at your responses because you don't believe what you're writing.
You're being stubborn. You're wrong. Period. A sitting President is tweeting our Trade "strategy". And you're defending it. It's ridiculous.
You'd be here foaming at the mouth had Obama tweeted that we were leaving Iraq. Instead? You're acting like this is wise, sound governance.
Just stop it. You don't believe a word you are typing.
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:45 pm
I've made my position clear -- taking a stand vs China will cause some short term pain for all of us, to claw back some of what we've given up.
That's a stupid position, and you know it. Why would we intentionally take short term economic pain with NO PLAN to help find US exporters and importers other markets and supply chains?
And what happens when China says "no deal"? Then there's no "clawing back", as you put it. Then were only left with pointless economic damage that we weren't prepared for......with the cherry on top that is a Cold War.
And we're not prepared for the economic damage, or a Cold War.
And I've told you a dozen times now that all Trump needs to do to get me on board (even today) is to announce: "I've directed that $1 Billion be placed in various Federal Departments, and Federal officials will leave our shores with all relevant US Trade groups to find new markets for our goods, and new supply chains. The government is here to help, and to ensure Americans win no matter what"
That's it. He does that, I'm behind him. Use our massive GDP advantage to stick it to the Chinese. Sign me up. Do you have any idea what would happen to my business if Trump gave my brother free airfare and lodging to find distribution points around the world?
And what message would that send to China? "Holy cow, this guy is serious, and US companies are finding new suppliers and buyers with each passing day".
Trump started this mess, and people need help.
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:45 pm
The farmers get it & have been hanging in there with Trump.
Not the one's I know. Some are going out of business. Some are offing themselves. I've told you this before. Just had folks from Coors grain department out here an hour ago to show them around. Told me farmers are NOT doing well because of all this. It's time to plant....what do they plant?
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:45 pm
Your response is to bray about channeling tariff revenues to bail out the ag sector.
That's what you think happened---you think Trump bailed out the ag sector? Trump cut a few checks to well connected buddies and friends of the Republican party---big Ag. They didn't need the money in the first place. Actual, real farmers got nothing, as always. A Chinese processing company got a check, FFS. Sweet. Nice Job.
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:45 pm
I'm sorry your EU bourbon sales are down.
Thank you, I really appreciate that, but that's not where we are affected. We don't sell bourbon there yet.
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:45 pm
My nest egg is down >10% today from a month ago (due to numerous market factors).
Sorry to hear that, but it's just down on paper, no?
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:45 pm
We'll all survive.
That's a non-statement. If I had come back with that statement when Obama pulled of Iraq, you would have lost your mind. Instead, you gave dozens of reasons why leaving too soon was bad.
Because the way we do things matters. Where'd that guy go? I'd like to have him back on this forum....
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:45 pm
We've got to break our addiction to stolen Chinese junk & fentanyl.
Great. I'm on board. What's the plan on how to do that best? Because the guy you are pretending to defend doesn't have a plan for how to do that.
. ...that check barely covers my taxes. My portfolio's been +/- 6 figures this wk. F China. We'll adapt & survive.
