youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:40 pm
ggait wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:33 pm
What possible reason would voters need to know if one of the presidential candidates
was planning to fundamentally alter the three branches of government forever.
Agree. It is better to tell people that you positively absolutely will never ever do X. And then after the election is over and the votes are counted, you do X.
Hold the tape. Use my words against me.
If I were Joe, I'd say that if you are worried about a court pack then you need to hold off filling the seat.
The rule now, per Mitch, is that if you have the votes, then you are allowed to use those votes. Regardless of what you did/did not say before the election. Like Trump always says, I'm keeping all my options open and I'll keep you in suspense.
Goose meet gander.
Kinda like we gotta pass it before we read it. People want to hear plans and what you are going to do for them....this is not about Trump, as Joe said, it's about his inability to make a decision and live with it. He knows full well what's at stake if he answers it, and THAT is why he will not.
It’s actually not an issue that is particularly important to the large majority of voters. At least it is not in their top three.
Trump voters don’t care about Joe’s position, except for one reason. They don’t care, because they aren’t going to vote for Biden and they think Trump is going to win. The only reason they “care” is they think that if Joe says he is for court packing, he will lose votes. That is an illegitimate reason.
People who are going to vote for Joe are going to do so regardless of his position on the court.
It is a long term “what if” issue anyway. Lots of things have to happen before you get to the issue. For one, Barrett would need to be confirmed. When she was nominated, that looked to be almost certain. Now, it is still likely, but less certain.
Two, obviously Joe has to win the election. Three, the Dems have to take the Senate.
Four, the Dems would need to do away with the filibuster. I think they should, and there is a lot of talk that they will, but it is not a certainty. Joe Manchin, for one, opposes it.
And then, the Supreme Court would have to issue a series of rulings that would turn around public sentiment on court packing. They would have to overrule Roe v. Wade, Obamacare, and gay marriage. If they did all that, the court should get packed.