Re: President Elect Biden
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:49 pm
Why did you never answer? You're contexuatlization is dumb. It misses all the point, but go ahead and feel good about that post. Pat yourself on the back for being obtuse and happy.
Same Party, Different House
https://fanlax.com/forum/
ok. didn't catch you wanted a list. and i didn't say the caveat made it flawed, though some can argue that.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:25 pmNo I asked a person who stated that the economy was going well to point to something factual. You threw out one metric, sure I can agree that's a good thing and think I already acknowledged that, but it's also not nearly enough to say "the economy was going well". Your caveat isn't a minor thing either when discussing the economy as a whole don't you think. To me that negates the entire premise if it's skewed such to leave significant portion of the populace. It's as if you picked one sentence out of a conversation and threw one, flawed when including the "caveat", metric out and that's the entire counterpoint. Is that what your intention was with this? Did you read what I originally replied to at all? Or is the whole methodology to only play devils advocate to others and never take a position to stand behind?wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:17 pmthe first link i gave you was in real terms (inflation), i also initially gave it with the caveat of wage growth inequality (your distribution?). you asked for us worker population for context vis a vis total employment/underemployment, which i gave you as flattened (and is cut off from this post as we've each had a reply since).Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:55 pmAs can you. That one statistic in isolation without any discussion of distribution, inflation or population is hardly enough to hang ones hat on that the economy was humming or doing well, which is what was stated as fact, prior to Covid in spite of GDP, underemployment, affordability and about a hundred other metrics yet you throw it out there with no context as if to suggest it alone and with no context is sufficient evidence. So like you said you can have any take you wish.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:58 pmtotal employment had been climbing.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:42 pmThe underemployment metric would suggest it wasn’t nearly enough to declare success. I would also note it took a long time after the financial crisis for wage growth to make ground. Stabilization took 4-5yrs into 2013, then we had the “taper tantrum” that summer because, oh god the Fed is going to raise rates, then the biyach Fed backed off and let the market have their way. There was almost no way to see true wage growth until 2014 or 2015.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:40 amwage growth was probably the best metricFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:56 amAside from the stock market, which is not the economy, can you point to quantitative or measurable items that indicate the president had things going in the right direction economically? And I would point out that economists who lean both Ways have exposed massive flaws in the measurement of unemployment rate, they are all working towards a better measurement to eventually be adopted by the government which would apply underemployed, meaning people working but below the level they need to support themselves effectively. By this measurement we weren’t doing very good.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:47 pm Of course it could be a pro Biden swing. Or a pro trump Swing. He had things going the right direction before the Rona hit.
All I read is it’s probably excitement about split gov and no likely major policy changes.
So not applying a flawed UE rate and understanding the stock market doesn’t mean anything, what did he have going well?
GDP growth?
Stability of the dollar?
Budget deficit?
Productivity?
Inflation? (Why did we have Powell lowering Fed Funds prior to Rona if inflation was stable at the long run benchmark? Deflation is 100x worse than inflation when it hits you surely know)
Other metrics?
https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2019/
a lot of numbers someone can not like in there (wage inequality, others), but as a result of the already tightening employment picture prior and since, wages had a lot of beneficiaries.
And while that’s a nice metric, it’s not enough to state the “economy was humming” under this soon to be prior admin. Fact is things were weakening in 2019 for sure.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2019/mobil ... r-2019.htm
https://www.statista.com/statistics/269 ... ed-states/
as had wages. started in 2014 for both in unison. i guess you can have any take you wish.
you asked what was going well. oh, well.
Are they counting the illegal votes this time?jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:27 pm Georgia Recount won't change the outcome. Biden still won Georgia.
You guys musta been really depressed about W’s IQ, AWOL from ANG unit, etc., etc...snickering about it behind his back and all...kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:50 pm"Top half" of his class, by his thinking.Cooter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:48 pmBut he was 506 out of 688 at the University of Delaware.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:17 pm Lets hope we don't just leave it up to Mr. 76 of 85.
"I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do!"
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html
Apparently, Orange Duce got a few more votes this time round.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:38 pmAre they counting the illegal votes this time?jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:27 pm Georgia Recount won't change the outcome. Biden still won Georgia.
Lindsey made that call to Georgia.....you think he drove over to the South Carolina office?jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:01 pmApparently, Orange Duce got a few more votes this time round.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:38 pmAre they counting the illegal votes this time?jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:27 pm Georgia Recount won't change the outcome. Biden still won Georgia.
Can either one of you tell me where and when it's going to matter where Joe finished in his class?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:50 pm"Top half" of his class, by his thinking.Cooter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:48 pmBut he was 506 out of 688 at the University of Delaware.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:17 pm Lets hope we don't just leave it up to Mr. 76 of 85.
"I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do!"
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html
... seems to me the whole meme / argument that Joe wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed is a loser with the Trumpnista base - the non-hardcore base. Blue collar workers that feel they have been looked down on all their lives. Be careful or you run the risk of turning Joe into a hero for these folks, when they come to discover he is not doing all the "scary" things Trumpnista have been telling them he would do.DMac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:13 pmCan either one of you tell me where and when it's going to matter where Joe finished in his class?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:50 pm"Top half" of his class, by his thinking.Cooter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:48 pmBut he was 506 out of 688 at the University of Delaware.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:17 pm Lets hope we don't just leave it up to Mr. 76 of 85.
"I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do!"
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html
Is this an issue or just something you want to make an issue about?
The base didn't seem to care about Trump's lies. I doubt they are going to worry about a few Biden lies. He will lie far less than Trump.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:33 pm No. His terrible class ranks aside, it's telling that Joe is willing to lie about something so dumb as his class rank in law school. If he's willing to lie about that, its easy to choose to lie about other things.
It woulda played better if he had laughed it off and been honest.
But I doubt he woulda said, "I was just there for the draft deferment."
Cadet Bone Spurs, meet Private Asthma. Glad that asthma didn't develop until he was done playing hs and college football!
How are the r's reacting as IMPOTUS o d is making this "rushed" reductions in force now?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:54 pm So an interesting question remains.
How will Brookie and other doves here react to Biden upping troops in the ME once he takes office? Just curious because it's gonna happen.
I don't believe these are 1Y equivalents, one is a complete fabrication, the other not so much.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:33 pm No. His terrible class ranks aside, it's telling that Joe is willing to lie about something so dumb as his class rank in law school. If he's willing to lie about that, its easy to choose to lie about other things.
It woulda played better if he had laughed it off and been honest.
But I doubt he woulda said, "I was just there for the draft deferment."
Cadet Bone Spurs, meet Private Asthma. Glad that asthma didn't develop until he was done playing hs and college football!
https://allergylosangeles.com/allergy-b ... allergies/In the second half of his summary, Vice President Biden’s physician describes him as having viral induced asthma. A typical cold or flu virus results in symptoms of runny nose, cough, fever, sore throat and congestion. Patients who have a history of allergies or asthma, can also develop asthma like symptoms of wheezing, chest tightness and/or shortness of breath. Treatment for this also is albuterol, but for more severe symptoms it could require inhaled or oral steroids. Most people actually do not develop bronchospasm with upper respiratory infections, only those with a history of asthma, as is the case with Vice President Biden. A good way to monitor a patient with asthma is a pulmonary function test (spirometry). His report did not state if he received one or not.
Who does all this benefit?CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:38 amHow are the r's reacting as IMPOTUS o d is making this "rushed" reductions in force now?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:54 pm So an interesting question remains.
How will Brookie and other doves here react to Biden upping troops in the ME once he takes office? Just curious because it's gonna happen.
Pretty obvious that your guy is just acting to make fires for the next administration. Nothing his is doing now is supported by career military advisors or the senior r's in the senate.
Do you support the actions now being taken?
I have always liked Jill Biden. See has always seemed very grounded. I suspect the Secret Service agents are looking forward to the change in style for both FLOTUS and POTUS.
Von Miller, all pro linebacker for the Denver Broncos is asthmatic.DMac wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:14 amI don't believe these are 1Y equivalents, one is a complete fabrication, the other not so much.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:33 pm No. His terrible class ranks aside, it's telling that Joe is willing to lie about something so dumb as his class rank in law school. If he's willing to lie about that, its easy to choose to lie about other things.
It woulda played better if he had laughed it off and been honest.
But I doubt he woulda said, "I was just there for the draft deferment."
Cadet Bone Spurs, meet Private Asthma. Glad that asthma didn't develop until he was done playing hs and college football!
https://allergylosangeles.com/allergy-b ... allergies/In the second half of his summary, Vice President Biden’s physician describes him as having viral induced asthma. A typical cold or flu virus results in symptoms of runny nose, cough, fever, sore throat and congestion. Patients who have a history of allergies or asthma, can also develop asthma like symptoms of wheezing, chest tightness and/or shortness of breath. Treatment for this also is albuterol, but for more severe symptoms it could require inhaled or oral steroids. Most people actually do not develop bronchospasm with upper respiratory infections, only those with a history of asthma, as is the case with Vice President Biden. A good way to monitor a patient with asthma is a pulmonary function test (spirometry). His report did not state if he received one or not.
Played HS hoops with an asthmatic, very good hoopster, went on to play college ball.
Friend's daughter is an asthmatic, played volleyball all through HS.
This insinuation that one can't play ball because they're asthmatic is nonsense.
Besides, Joe and Donald aren't in the same league when it comes to lying.
That's why I liked Jeff Dahmer. He only killed 17 people. Such a better guy than Ted Bundy who killed dozens more.jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:40 amThe base didn't seem to care about Trump's lies. I doubt they are going to worry about a few Biden lies. He will lie far less than Trump.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:33 pm No. His terrible class ranks aside, it's telling that Joe is willing to lie about something so dumb as his class rank in law school. If he's willing to lie about that, its easy to choose to lie about other things.
It woulda played better if he had laughed it off and been honest.
But I doubt he woulda said, "I was just there for the draft deferment."
Cadet Bone Spurs, meet Private Asthma. Glad that asthma didn't develop until he was done playing hs and college football!