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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:26 pm
by youthathletics
CU88 wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:45 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:50 pm
njbill wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:31 pm Just was talking to my daughter. She said that even though Biden may not energize the young vote all that much and even if his VP pick doesn’t do so, if Trump bans Tic-Tok, young voters will come out in droves to vote against him.

Don’t know if that is right, but I thought it was an interesting observation.
Did you ask here if she likes China spying on her?
Proof?
Google it yourself.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:36 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:26 pm
CU88 wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:45 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:50 pm
njbill wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:31 pm Just was talking to my daughter. She said that even though Biden may not energize the young vote all that much and even if his VP pick doesn’t do so, if Trump bans Tic-Tok, young voters will come out in droves to vote against him.

Don’t know if that is right, but I thought it was an interesting observation.
Did you ask here if she likes China spying on her?
Proof?
Google it yourself.
I did. I don’t trust the Chinese and unfortunately I don’t trust this current administration anymore than I trust China.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman ... 44ec7d4014

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-53476117

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... ca/614725/

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:53 pm
by seacoaster
https://apnews.com/ffdad3a4983088224245 ... SocialFlow

"A Manhattan prosecutor trying to get President Donald Trump’s tax returns told a judge Monday that he was justified in demanding them, citing public reports of “extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization.”

Trump’s lawyers last month said the grand jury subpoena for the tax returns was issued in bad faith and amounted to harassment of the president.

Manhattan District Attorney District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance, Jr. seeks eight years of the Republican president’s personal and corporate tax records, but has disclosed little about what prompted him to request the records, other than part of the investigation relates to payoffs to women to keep them quiet about alleged affairs with Trump.

In a court filing Monday, though, attorneys for Vance said Trump’s arguments that the subpoena was too broad stemmed from “the false premise” that the probe was limited to so-called “hush-money” payments.

“This Court is already aware that this assertion is fatally undermined by undisputed information in the public record,” Vance’s lawyers wrote. They said that information confirms the validity of a subpoena seeking evidence related to potentially improper financial transactions by a variety of individuals and entities over a period of years.

They said public reporting demonstrates that at the time the subpoena was issued “there were public allegations of possible criminal activity at Plaintiff’s New York County-based Trump Organization dating back over a decade.”

“These reports describe transactions involving individual and corporate actors based in New York County, but whose conduct at times extended beyond New York’s borders. This possible criminal activity occurred within the applicable statutes of limitations, particularly if the transactions involved a continuing pattern of conduct,” the lawyers said.

The lawyers urged Judge Victor Marrero to swiftly reject Trump’s arguments, saying the baseless claims were threatening the investigation. Marrero, who ruled against Trump last year, has scheduled arguments to be fully submitted by mid-August.

“Every day that goes by is another day Plaintiff effectively achieves the ‘temporary absolute immunity’ that was rejected by this Court, the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court,” Vance’s lawyers said. “Every such day also increases the prospect of a loss of evidence or the expiration of limitations periods — the precise concerns that the Supreme Court observed justified its rejection of Plaintiff’s immunity claim in the first place.”

The Supreme Court last month rejected claims by Trump’s lawyers that the president could not be criminally investigated while he was in office.

Vance’s lawyers said Trump was not entitled to know the scope and nature of the grand jury investigation. But they said information already in the public domain about Trump’s business dealings provided satisfactory support for the subpoena of his tax records.

They cited several newspaper articles, including one in the Washington Post examining allegations that Trump had a practice of sending out financial statements to potential business partners and banks that inflated the worth of his properties by claiming they were bigger or more potentially lucrative than they were.

Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, described such practices during congressional testimony.

Vance sought the tax records in part for a probe of how Cohen arranged during the 2016 presidential race to keep the porn actress Stormy Daniels and model Karen McDougal from airing claims of extramarital affairs with Trump. Trump has denied the affairs.

Cohen is serving the last two years of a three-year prison sentence in home confinement after pleading guilty to campaign finance violations and lying to Congress, among other charges. He said he plans to publish a book critical of the president before the November election."

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:40 pm
by jhu72
seacoaster wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:53 pm https://apnews.com/ffdad3a4983088224245 ... SocialFlow

"A Manhattan prosecutor trying to get President Donald Trump’s tax returns told a judge Monday that he was justified in demanding them, citing public reports of “extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization.”

Trump’s lawyers last month said the grand jury subpoena for the tax returns was issued in bad faith and amounted to harassment of the president.

Manhattan District Attorney District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance, Jr. seeks eight years of the Republican president’s personal and corporate tax records, but has disclosed little about what prompted him to request the records, other than part of the investigation relates to payoffs to women to keep them quiet about alleged affairs with Trump.

In a court filing Monday, though, attorneys for Vance said Trump’s arguments that the subpoena was too broad stemmed from “the false premise” that the probe was limited to so-called “hush-money” payments.

“This Court is already aware that this assertion is fatally undermined by undisputed information in the public record,” Vance’s lawyers wrote. They said that information confirms the validity of a subpoena seeking evidence related to potentially improper financial transactions by a variety of individuals and entities over a period of years.

They said public reporting demonstrates that at the time the subpoena was issued “there were public allegations of possible criminal activity at Plaintiff’s New York County-based Trump Organization dating back over a decade.”

“These reports describe transactions involving individual and corporate actors based in New York County, but whose conduct at times extended beyond New York’s borders. This possible criminal activity occurred within the applicable statutes of limitations, particularly if the transactions involved a continuing pattern of conduct,” the lawyers said.

The lawyers urged Judge Victor Marrero to swiftly reject Trump’s arguments, saying the baseless claims were threatening the investigation. Marrero, who ruled against Trump last year, has scheduled arguments to be fully submitted by mid-August.

“Every day that goes by is another day Plaintiff effectively achieves the ‘temporary absolute immunity’ that was rejected by this Court, the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court,” Vance’s lawyers said. “Every such day also increases the prospect of a loss of evidence or the expiration of limitations periods — the precise concerns that the Supreme Court observed justified its rejection of Plaintiff’s immunity claim in the first place.”

The Supreme Court last month rejected claims by Trump’s lawyers that the president could not be criminally investigated while he was in office.

Vance’s lawyers said Trump was not entitled to know the scope and nature of the grand jury investigation. But they said information already in the public domain about Trump’s business dealings provided satisfactory support for the subpoena of his tax records.

They cited several newspaper articles, including one in the Washington Post examining allegations that Trump had a practice of sending out financial statements to potential business partners and banks that inflated the worth of his properties by claiming they were bigger or more potentially lucrative than they were.

Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, described such practices during congressional testimony.

Vance sought the tax records in part for a probe of how Cohen arranged during the 2016 presidential race to keep the porn actress Stormy Daniels and model Karen McDougal from airing claims of extramarital affairs with Trump. Trump has denied the affairs.

Cohen is serving the last two years of a three-year prison sentence in home confinement after pleading guilty to campaign finance violations and lying to Congress, among other charges. He said he plans to publish a book critical of the president before the November election."
… we all know Trump is a scum bag real estate criminal type. There has been smoke pouring out of this dumpster fire since forever. Cohen is the inside witness they have always needed to put the pieces together. I think Trump's gaming the legal system is coming to an end.

Trump will be the first ex-president to have ever been indicted and found guilty in a state court of felonies after having been president as far as I know.

Cohen will have the last laugh.

MAGA

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:04 pm
by seacoaster

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:18 pm
by jhu72
… who does he think is going to believe him? Democrats, independents, :lol: :lol:

The only people dumb enough to believe him are today's republicans. Betcha the average voter in Harrison, Arkansas is all in... :lol:

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:21 pm
by a fan
jhu72 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:18 pm
… who does he think is going to believe him? Democrats, independents, :lol: :lol:

The only people dumb enough to believe him are today's republicans. Betcha the average voter in Harrison, Arkansas is all in... :lol:
Been saying this since they first started the whole stupid voter fraud thing years ago: please. Pretty please. Make it illegal to vote anywhere but in person at your voting precinct. Make all those elderly Republicans wait in line for three hours to vote.

Nothing would make me happier. Super-dooper-nifty-secure voting.

Odd, not one single solitary State, including all those Republican-run States, have done that. Gee, I can't square why.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:59 pm
by CU77
Absolutely. Voting should be in person only, state-issued unexpired ID only.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:22 pm
by Peter Brown
a fan wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:21 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:18 pm
… who does he think is going to believe him? Democrats, independents, :lol: :lol:

The only people dumb enough to believe him are today's republicans. Betcha the average voter in Harrison, Arkansas is all in... :lol:
Been saying this since they first started the whole stupid voter fraud thing years ago: please. Pretty please. Make it illegal to vote anywhere but in person at your voting precinct. Make all those elderly Republicans wait in line for three hours to vote.

Nothing would make me happier. Super-dooper-nifty-secure voting.

Odd, not one single solitary State, including all those Republican-run States, have done that. Gee, I can't square why.


You classically underestimate the fact that honest taxpayers tend to vote because they have actual dollars at stake (not bs woke nonsense), and taxpayers (by that I mean people with a stake in tax rates) tend to be overwhelmingly republican.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:01 pm
by kramerica.inc
jhu72 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:18 pm
… who does he think is going to believe him? Democrats, independents, :lol: :lol:

The only people dumb enough to believe him are today's republicans. Betcha the average voter in Harrison, Arkansas is all in... :lol:
More subtlety, nuance and truth from you, eh?

:lol:

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:03 pm
by seacoaster
Liar:

Trump: “Countries where there have been very significant flareups over the last short period of time are Spain, Germany, France, Australia, Japan.”

Coronavirus deaths reported on Aug. 1:

US: 1,244
Spain: 0
Germany: 0
France: 11
Australia: 7
Japan: 1

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:16 pm
by DocBarrister
jhu72 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:40 pm
seacoaster wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:53 pm https://apnews.com/ffdad3a4983088224245 ... SocialFlow

"A Manhattan prosecutor trying to get President Donald Trump’s tax returns told a judge Monday that he was justified in demanding them, citing public reports of “extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization.”

Trump’s lawyers last month said the grand jury subpoena for the tax returns was issued in bad faith and amounted to harassment of the president.

Manhattan District Attorney District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance, Jr. seeks eight years of the Republican president’s personal and corporate tax records, but has disclosed little about what prompted him to request the records, other than part of the investigation relates to payoffs to women to keep them quiet about alleged affairs with Trump.

In a court filing Monday, though, attorneys for Vance said Trump’s arguments that the subpoena was too broad stemmed from “the false premise” that the probe was limited to so-called “hush-money” payments.

“This Court is already aware that this assertion is fatally undermined by undisputed information in the public record,” Vance’s lawyers wrote. They said that information confirms the validity of a subpoena seeking evidence related to potentially improper financial transactions by a variety of individuals and entities over a period of years.

They said public reporting demonstrates that at the time the subpoena was issued “there were public allegations of possible criminal activity at Plaintiff’s New York County-based Trump Organization dating back over a decade.”

“These reports describe transactions involving individual and corporate actors based in New York County, but whose conduct at times extended beyond New York’s borders. This possible criminal activity occurred within the applicable statutes of limitations, particularly if the transactions involved a continuing pattern of conduct,” the lawyers said.

The lawyers urged Judge Victor Marrero to swiftly reject Trump’s arguments, saying the baseless claims were threatening the investigation. Marrero, who ruled against Trump last year, has scheduled arguments to be fully submitted by mid-August.

“Every day that goes by is another day Plaintiff effectively achieves the ‘temporary absolute immunity’ that was rejected by this Court, the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court,” Vance’s lawyers said. “Every such day also increases the prospect of a loss of evidence or the expiration of limitations periods — the precise concerns that the Supreme Court observed justified its rejection of Plaintiff’s immunity claim in the first place.”

The Supreme Court last month rejected claims by Trump’s lawyers that the president could not be criminally investigated while he was in office.

Vance’s lawyers said Trump was not entitled to know the scope and nature of the grand jury investigation. But they said information already in the public domain about Trump’s business dealings provided satisfactory support for the subpoena of his tax records.

They cited several newspaper articles, including one in the Washington Post examining allegations that Trump had a practice of sending out financial statements to potential business partners and banks that inflated the worth of his properties by claiming they were bigger or more potentially lucrative than they were.

Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, described such practices during congressional testimony.

Vance sought the tax records in part for a probe of how Cohen arranged during the 2016 presidential race to keep the porn actress Stormy Daniels and model Karen McDougal from airing claims of extramarital affairs with Trump. Trump has denied the affairs.

Cohen is serving the last two years of a three-year prison sentence in home confinement after pleading guilty to campaign finance violations and lying to Congress, among other charges. He said he plans to publish a book critical of the president before the November election."
… we all know Trump is a scum bag real estate criminal type. There has been smoke pouring out of this dumpster fire since forever. Cohen is the inside witness they have always needed to put the pieces together. I think Trump's gaming the legal system is coming to an end.

Trump will be the first ex-president to have ever been indicted and found guilty in a state court of felonies after having been president as far as I know.

Cohen will have the last laugh.

MAGA
Basically, Vance is investigating Trump, certain members of his family, and the Trump Organization for insurance and bank fraud.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... s-n1235658

As some here may know, the potential prison sentence for bank and/or insurance fraud is absolutely draconian.

Shoot someone on Fifth Avenue? Sexually assault and/or harass two dozen women? You might be elected a Republican president.

But screw an insurance company or a bank ... ya know, the things Republican leaders actually care about? You’re going to face serious time in prison.

DocBarrister 8-)

Orange Duce—Money Launderer for Putin & Russian Oligarchs?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:25 pm
by DocBarrister
Also, this may be a good time to remind everyone that Deutsche Bank, pretty much the only major bank that will loan money to Trump and the Trump Organization, has already been fined a nine-figure penalty for its role in a $10 billion Russian money laundering scheme.

https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/31/invest ... index.html

So, there’s that.

But that doesn’t bother Trump’s supporters here, does it?

As long as Trump appoints anti-choice judges, locks up Hispanic migrant children in cages, continues to deride women, and stays true to white supremacist bigotry, y’all will stick by him, correct?

Correct.

DocBarrister :?

Re: Orange Duce—Money Launderer for Putin & Russian Oligarchs?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:22 pm
by CU77
DocBarrister wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:25 pm But that doesn’t bother Trump’s supporters here, does it?
Of course not!

MAGA!

KAG!

TOG!

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:29 am
by jhu72
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:01 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:18 pm
… who does he think is going to believe him? Democrats, independents, :lol: :lol:

The only people dumb enough to believe him are today's republicans. Betcha the average voter in Harrison, Arkansas is all in... :lol:
More subtlety, nuance and truth from you, eh?

:lol:
Truth certainly. Subtlety and nuance, you would miss, as you seemingly missed the truth. :lol:

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:01 am
by seacoaster
The President is a Moron, Part 4,006:

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1290497186489348096

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:03 am
by seacoaster
Justin Amash describes Trump's interview with Axios's Jonathan Swan as "like an episode of VEEP only real." How proud are we?

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:19 am
by Typical Lax Dad
seacoaster wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:03 am Justin Amash describes Trump's interview with Axios's Jonathan Swan as "like an episode of VEEP only real." How proud are we?
I don’t know anyone that voted for him....everyone I encounter claim that they didn’t vote for him.

Trump - Pence 2020

MAGA

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:19 pm
by jhu72
He gets so little right, it should be noted when he does. Its a little hyperbolic on his part, but what isn't?

Trump signs a major conservation bill into law.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:04 pm
by seacoaster
jhu72 wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:19 pm He gets so little right, it should be noted when he does. Its a little hyperbolic on his part, but what isn't?

Trump signs a major conservation bill into law.
It's true; it is potentially a very nice piece of legislation aimed at a good cause. But even then, he manages to confirm that he is a pumpkinhead (cue the video Little Bo Pete):

https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1290664348986363916