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Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:11 am
by NattyBohChamps04
youthathletics wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:36 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:22 am And the problem is transgenders and gays ruining the nation?

Baltimore’s Catholic Church sexually abused at least 600 children over 60 years, Maryland AG says

Hardly a new or isolated problem.
Curious....why post this in a political thread?
Because it's a conservative political football. Because prominent Republicans are calling Democrats the party of pedophiles. Republicans and conspiracy theorists constantly accuse Dems of grooming and sexualizing children and running child sex trafficking rings. It's been a big talking point in Republican politics for nearly a decade, from Pizzagate to all the trans attacks recently.

~50% of Republicans think that top Democrats are involved in elite child sex-trafficking rings

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:58 am
by MDlaxfan76
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:11 am Tennessee, laboratory of the Reichstag:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/opin ... ction.html

"Yesterday the eyes of the country were on the indictment of a former president, along with the all too real possibility that political or public chaos would erupt as a result. Here in Tennessee, we were watching a different kind of chaos unfold as our state government doubled down on its love affair with guns, even in the immediate aftermath of a horrific school shooting. I wish I could tell you that guns were the worst of it.

Last Thursday, in the wake of the shooting, peaceful protesters at the Tennessee State Capitol rallied for gun reform. Activists waved signs in the statehouse gallery, and Representatives Justin Jones, Gloria Johnson and Justin J. Pearson, all Democrats, led them in chants from the House floor during breaks. Between bills, the lawmakers also approached the podium to speak. They did not wait to be formally recognized.

On Monday, statehouse Republicans stripped all three of their committee memberships and deactivated their ID badges. The Democrats “did knowingly and intentionally bring disorder and dishonor to the House of Representatives,” the formal resolutions against them read. Tomorrow, the House will vote on whether to expel the three lawmakers for talking out of turn.

Expulsion is extremely rare in Tennessee history. As the Politico reporter Natalie Allison pointed out on Twitter, the Tennessee House didn’t even vote to expel a Republican legislator who had been accused of sexually assaulting three teenage girls.

The resolutions against Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson were filed against a backdrop that highlights the absurdity of the actions Republicans have taken against them.

On Monday at 10:13 a.m., one week to the minute after a shooter armed with military-style weapons entered the church-affiliated Covenant School and murdered three children and three adults, more than 7,000 Nashville students staged a walkout to demand gun reform. It was a sight to behold: Vanderbilt University students marching down one street, Belmont University students marching down another, all of them joining a large crowd of high school and college students from around town. They were determined to speak as one voice directly to their government — to the only people with any power to reduce the risks they take just by going to class.

No place in this firearm-besotted country is safe from gun violence, but Tennessee students are at particular risk, and not just in school. They live in a state with some of the nation’s most permissive gun laws, as well as the highest rate of gun theft — and perhaps unsurprisingly, one of the highest rates of gun deaths.

The guns that killed the children and staff members at Covenant last week were all purchased legally, despite the fact that the shooter was being treated for an emotional disorder. If Tennessee had enacted a red-flag law before now, it’s fair to believe that six deeply mourned members of the Covenant community would still be alive. Countless others would be, too.

Until yesterday, when the judiciary committee of the State Senate voted to postpone all gun-related legislation — including a red-flag law jointly proposed by Senator Jeff Yarbro and House member Caleb Hemmer, both Democrats — the Tennessee General Assembly showed every sign of turning Nashville’s school shooting into an opportunity to weaken gun safety in the state even further.

The shamelessness on display was breathtaking. “If there is a firearm out there that you’re comfortable being shot with, please show me which one it is,” a Republican state representative said to student protesters. Presumably he meant that banning assault-style guns wouldn’t prevent students from being shot with other kinds of guns, but that’s not much of an argument coming from a pro-gun legislator who opposes red-flag laws.

These repeated demonstrations for gun safety legislation were the context in which the Republican supermajority of the Tennessee House moved to expel Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson from the statehouse. But the three Democrats had more than public sentiment on their side. They had more, even, than moral authority on their side. They also had a practical reason for flouting chamber rules: “Our mics were cut off throughout the week whenever we tried to bring up the issue of gun violence,” Mr. Jones told WKRN.

Ms. Johnson is a retired teacher and veteran legislator who represents parts of Knox County in East Tennessee, but the two men are new to the General Assembly. In a special election this year to replace a House member who died in October, Memphis voters elected Mr. Pearson in a landslide. Mr. Jones represents a district in Nashville. After winning the Democratic primary, he ran unopposed in the November election.

Both men are skilled community organizers. Mr. Pearson led the successful effort to stop the Byhalia Connection Pipeline from running through a historic Black neighborhood in Memphis. Mr. Jones led the successful effort to have a bust of the Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest removed from the State Capitol.

Disenfranchisement of liberal voters is nothing new in the state of Tennessee, but what the G.O.P is trying to do to these Democrats goes well beyond disenfranchisement. To remove legitimately elected officials from the chamber to which voters sent them — and to do so precisely because those officials were representing the wishes of voters — is nothing short of authoritarianism. And the Republican supermajority in the Tennessee General Assembly has the votes to do it.

Still, I can’t help but hope that Tennesseans will protest the precedent their leaders are about to establish. I still have hope that voters, even Republican voters, will contact their legislators today, in time to make at least some of them stop and reconsider what they are poised to do.

What Tennessee Republicans may think of Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson is far less important than what Tennessee Republicans may think about American democracy. Because democracy does not exist in a state where officials can be sent home for nothing more than voicing the opinions of voters who are pounding on the statehouse door, demanding to be heard.

In fundamental ways, none of this is surprising. Twenty-first-century Republicans are always demonstrating a truth that the Roman historian Tacitus understood back in the first century: It is part of human nature to hate someone you have hurt. In refusing to expand Medicaid, in attempting to replace public schools with private charters, in disenfranchising Democratic voters, in persecuting L.G.B.T.Q. citizens and demonizing school librarians, in stripping bodily autonomy from Tennessee women and in failing to protect us all from gunfire, they are telling us exactly how they feel about the people they represent.

My real hope lies in people like Justin J. Pearson, Gloria Johnson and Justin Jones. Whatever happens to them at the hands of their fellow legislators tomorrow, we have not heard the last from them. Of that I have absolute confidence. The shining example of the great John Lewis, who cut his own teeth opposing injustice in Nashville, taught them how to cause “good trouble.” Clearly, they have learned from the master."
The two Justins are super impressive young men.
She's strong in her own right, but they have rockstar talent.

Quite amazing what's been happening in Nashville.

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:00 pm
by MDlaxfan76
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:11 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:36 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:22 am And the problem is transgenders and gays ruining the nation?

Baltimore’s Catholic Church sexually abused at least 600 children over 60 years, Maryland AG says

Hardly a new or isolated problem.
Curious....why post this in a political thread?
Because it's a conservative political football. Because prominent Republicans are calling Democrats the party of pedophiles. Republicans and conspiracy theorists constantly accuse Dems of grooming and sexualizing children and running child sex trafficking rings. It's been a big talking point in Republican politics for nearly a decade, from Pizzagate to all the trans attacks recently.

~50% of Republicans think that top Democrats are involved in elite child sex-trafficking rings
+1 exactly.

It should not be a partisan issue at all, but it's been made into such by the right wing.
MAGA. (when we got away with it!)

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:02 pm
by MDlaxfan76
get it to x wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:01 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:13 am
ggait wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:55 am Heard this from an architect friend over the weekend.

New trend in school construction. Only use skylight and transom windows. No more big windows.

Man...
Again...awful answer.
Agreed. My HS (Loch Raven in Baltimore Co.) had fewer windows than the county jail. Instead of daydreaming about the nice weather outside we just had naughty thoughts about our female classmates.
:lol: ! 8-)

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:44 pm
by jhu72
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:58 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:11 am Tennessee, laboratory of the Reichstag:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/opin ... ction.html

"Yesterday the eyes of the country were on the indictment of a former president, along with the all too real possibility that political or public chaos would erupt as a result. Here in Tennessee, we were watching a different kind of chaos unfold as our state government doubled down on its love affair with guns, even in the immediate aftermath of a horrific school shooting. I wish I could tell you that guns were the worst of it.

Last Thursday, in the wake of the shooting, peaceful protesters at the Tennessee State Capitol rallied for gun reform. Activists waved signs in the statehouse gallery, and Representatives Justin Jones, Gloria Johnson and Justin J. Pearson, all Democrats, led them in chants from the House floor during breaks. Between bills, the lawmakers also approached the podium to speak. They did not wait to be formally recognized.

On Monday, statehouse Republicans stripped all three of their committee memberships and deactivated their ID badges. The Democrats “did knowingly and intentionally bring disorder and dishonor to the House of Representatives,” the formal resolutions against them read. Tomorrow, the House will vote on whether to expel the three lawmakers for talking out of turn.

Expulsion is extremely rare in Tennessee history. As the Politico reporter Natalie Allison pointed out on Twitter, the Tennessee House didn’t even vote to expel a Republican legislator who had been accused of sexually assaulting three teenage girls.

The resolutions against Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson were filed against a backdrop that highlights the absurdity of the actions Republicans have taken against them.

On Monday at 10:13 a.m., one week to the minute after a shooter armed with military-style weapons entered the church-affiliated Covenant School and murdered three children and three adults, more than 7,000 Nashville students staged a walkout to demand gun reform. It was a sight to behold: Vanderbilt University students marching down one street, Belmont University students marching down another, all of them joining a large crowd of high school and college students from around town. They were determined to speak as one voice directly to their government — to the only people with any power to reduce the risks they take just by going to class.

No place in this firearm-besotted country is safe from gun violence, but Tennessee students are at particular risk, and not just in school. They live in a state with some of the nation’s most permissive gun laws, as well as the highest rate of gun theft — and perhaps unsurprisingly, one of the highest rates of gun deaths.

The guns that killed the children and staff members at Covenant last week were all purchased legally, despite the fact that the shooter was being treated for an emotional disorder. If Tennessee had enacted a red-flag law before now, it’s fair to believe that six deeply mourned members of the Covenant community would still be alive. Countless others would be, too.

Until yesterday, when the judiciary committee of the State Senate voted to postpone all gun-related legislation — including a red-flag law jointly proposed by Senator Jeff Yarbro and House member Caleb Hemmer, both Democrats — the Tennessee General Assembly showed every sign of turning Nashville’s school shooting into an opportunity to weaken gun safety in the state even further.

The shamelessness on display was breathtaking. “If there is a firearm out there that you’re comfortable being shot with, please show me which one it is,” a Republican state representative said to student protesters. Presumably he meant that banning assault-style guns wouldn’t prevent students from being shot with other kinds of guns, but that’s not much of an argument coming from a pro-gun legislator who opposes red-flag laws.

These repeated demonstrations for gun safety legislation were the context in which the Republican supermajority of the Tennessee House moved to expel Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson from the statehouse. But the three Democrats had more than public sentiment on their side. They had more, even, than moral authority on their side. They also had a practical reason for flouting chamber rules: “Our mics were cut off throughout the week whenever we tried to bring up the issue of gun violence,” Mr. Jones told WKRN.

Ms. Johnson is a retired teacher and veteran legislator who represents parts of Knox County in East Tennessee, but the two men are new to the General Assembly. In a special election this year to replace a House member who died in October, Memphis voters elected Mr. Pearson in a landslide. Mr. Jones represents a district in Nashville. After winning the Democratic primary, he ran unopposed in the November election.

Both men are skilled community organizers. Mr. Pearson led the successful effort to stop the Byhalia Connection Pipeline from running through a historic Black neighborhood in Memphis. Mr. Jones led the successful effort to have a bust of the Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest removed from the State Capitol.

Disenfranchisement of liberal voters is nothing new in the state of Tennessee, but what the G.O.P is trying to do to these Democrats goes well beyond disenfranchisement. To remove legitimately elected officials from the chamber to which voters sent them — and to do so precisely because those officials were representing the wishes of voters — is nothing short of authoritarianism. And the Republican supermajority in the Tennessee General Assembly has the votes to do it.

Still, I can’t help but hope that Tennesseans will protest the precedent their leaders are about to establish. I still have hope that voters, even Republican voters, will contact their legislators today, in time to make at least some of them stop and reconsider what they are poised to do.

What Tennessee Republicans may think of Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson is far less important than what Tennessee Republicans may think about American democracy. Because democracy does not exist in a state where officials can be sent home for nothing more than voicing the opinions of voters who are pounding on the statehouse door, demanding to be heard.

In fundamental ways, none of this is surprising. Twenty-first-century Republicans are always demonstrating a truth that the Roman historian Tacitus understood back in the first century: It is part of human nature to hate someone you have hurt. In refusing to expand Medicaid, in attempting to replace public schools with private charters, in disenfranchising Democratic voters, in persecuting L.G.B.T.Q. citizens and demonizing school librarians, in stripping bodily autonomy from Tennessee women and in failing to protect us all from gunfire, they are telling us exactly how they feel about the people they represent.

My real hope lies in people like Justin J. Pearson, Gloria Johnson and Justin Jones. Whatever happens to them at the hands of their fellow legislators tomorrow, we have not heard the last from them. Of that I have absolute confidence. The shining example of the great John Lewis, who cut his own teeth opposing injustice in Nashville, taught them how to cause “good trouble.” Clearly, they have learned from the master."
The two Justins are super impressive young men.
She's strong in her own right, but they have rockstar talent.

Quite amazing what's been happening in Nashville.
... hard to believe how stupid Tennessee republiCONS are, but then again they are short dicked white men. :lol: :lol:

The two young black democratic representatives and the older white woman representative got the best of the short dicked losers.

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:56 pm
by jhu72

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:33 pm
by SCLaxAttack
jhu72 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:44 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:58 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:11 am Tennessee, laboratory of the Reichstag:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/opin ... ction.html

"Yesterday the eyes of the country were on the indictment of a former president, along with the all too real possibility that political or public chaos would erupt as a result. Here in Tennessee, we were watching a different kind of chaos unfold as our state government doubled down on its love affair with guns, even in the immediate aftermath of a horrific school shooting. I wish I could tell you that guns were the worst of it.

Last Thursday, in the wake of the shooting, peaceful protesters at the Tennessee State Capitol rallied for gun reform. Activists waved signs in the statehouse gallery, and Representatives Justin Jones, Gloria Johnson and Justin J. Pearson, all Democrats, led them in chants from the House floor during breaks. Between bills, the lawmakers also approached the podium to speak. They did not wait to be formally recognized.

On Monday, statehouse Republicans stripped all three of their committee memberships and deactivated their ID badges. The Democrats “did knowingly and intentionally bring disorder and dishonor to the House of Representatives,” the formal resolutions against them read. Tomorrow, the House will vote on whether to expel the three lawmakers for talking out of turn.

Expulsion is extremely rare in Tennessee history. As the Politico reporter Natalie Allison pointed out on Twitter, the Tennessee House didn’t even vote to expel a Republican legislator who had been accused of sexually assaulting three teenage girls.

The resolutions against Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson were filed against a backdrop that highlights the absurdity of the actions Republicans have taken against them.

On Monday at 10:13 a.m., one week to the minute after a shooter armed with military-style weapons entered the church-affiliated Covenant School and murdered three children and three adults, more than 7,000 Nashville students staged a walkout to demand gun reform. It was a sight to behold: Vanderbilt University students marching down one street, Belmont University students marching down another, all of them joining a large crowd of high school and college students from around town. They were determined to speak as one voice directly to their government — to the only people with any power to reduce the risks they take just by going to class.

No place in this firearm-besotted country is safe from gun violence, but Tennessee students are at particular risk, and not just in school. They live in a state with some of the nation’s most permissive gun laws, as well as the highest rate of gun theft — and perhaps unsurprisingly, one of the highest rates of gun deaths.

The guns that killed the children and staff members at Covenant last week were all purchased legally, despite the fact that the shooter was being treated for an emotional disorder. If Tennessee had enacted a red-flag law before now, it’s fair to believe that six deeply mourned members of the Covenant community would still be alive. Countless others would be, too.

Until yesterday, when the judiciary committee of the State Senate voted to postpone all gun-related legislation — including a red-flag law jointly proposed by Senator Jeff Yarbro and House member Caleb Hemmer, both Democrats — the Tennessee General Assembly showed every sign of turning Nashville’s school shooting into an opportunity to weaken gun safety in the state even further.

The shamelessness on display was breathtaking. “If there is a firearm out there that you’re comfortable being shot with, please show me which one it is,” a Republican state representative said to student protesters. Presumably he meant that banning assault-style guns wouldn’t prevent students from being shot with other kinds of guns, but that’s not much of an argument coming from a pro-gun legislator who opposes red-flag laws.

These repeated demonstrations for gun safety legislation were the context in which the Republican supermajority of the Tennessee House moved to expel Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson from the statehouse. But the three Democrats had more than public sentiment on their side. They had more, even, than moral authority on their side. They also had a practical reason for flouting chamber rules: “Our mics were cut off throughout the week whenever we tried to bring up the issue of gun violence,” Mr. Jones told WKRN.

Ms. Johnson is a retired teacher and veteran legislator who represents parts of Knox County in East Tennessee, but the two men are new to the General Assembly. In a special election this year to replace a House member who died in October, Memphis voters elected Mr. Pearson in a landslide. Mr. Jones represents a district in Nashville. After winning the Democratic primary, he ran unopposed in the November election.

Both men are skilled community organizers. Mr. Pearson led the successful effort to stop the Byhalia Connection Pipeline from running through a historic Black neighborhood in Memphis. Mr. Jones led the successful effort to have a bust of the Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest removed from the State Capitol.

Disenfranchisement of liberal voters is nothing new in the state of Tennessee, but what the G.O.P is trying to do to these Democrats goes well beyond disenfranchisement. To remove legitimately elected officials from the chamber to which voters sent them — and to do so precisely because those officials were representing the wishes of voters — is nothing short of authoritarianism. And the Republican supermajority in the Tennessee General Assembly has the votes to do it.

Still, I can’t help but hope that Tennesseans will protest the precedent their leaders are about to establish. I still have hope that voters, even Republican voters, will contact their legislators today, in time to make at least some of them stop and reconsider what they are poised to do.

What Tennessee Republicans may think of Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson is far less important than what Tennessee Republicans may think about American democracy. Because democracy does not exist in a state where officials can be sent home for nothing more than voicing the opinions of voters who are pounding on the statehouse door, demanding to be heard.

In fundamental ways, none of this is surprising. Twenty-first-century Republicans are always demonstrating a truth that the Roman historian Tacitus understood back in the first century: It is part of human nature to hate someone you have hurt. In refusing to expand Medicaid, in attempting to replace public schools with private charters, in disenfranchising Democratic voters, in persecuting L.G.B.T.Q. citizens and demonizing school librarians, in stripping bodily autonomy from Tennessee women and in failing to protect us all from gunfire, they are telling us exactly how they feel about the people they represent.

My real hope lies in people like Justin J. Pearson, Gloria Johnson and Justin Jones. Whatever happens to them at the hands of their fellow legislators tomorrow, we have not heard the last from them. Of that I have absolute confidence. The shining example of the great John Lewis, who cut his own teeth opposing injustice in Nashville, taught them how to cause “good trouble.” Clearly, they have learned from the master."
The two Justins are super impressive young men.
She's strong in her own right, but they have rockstar talent.

Quite amazing what's been happening in Nashville.
... hard to believe how stupid Tennessee republiCONS are, but then again they are short dicked white men. :lol: :lol:

The two young black democratic representatives and the older white woman representative got the best of the short dicked losers.
Is there anything in their expulsion that precludes Pearson and Jones from running and winning again in their districts, returning to their positions, and giving the democracy and first amendment hating clowns a big middle finger?

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:57 pm
by DocBarrister
A far right extremist Republican judge in Texas ordered the abortion pill off the market (but stayed his decision for a week to permit an appeal).

Shortly after, a rational federal judge in Washington State issued a directly contradictory order, commanding the FDA to keep the abortion pill on the market.

The far right extremists have gotten out of control.

DocBarrister :?

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:06 pm
by ggait
So the lawyer on the Texas case is Sen. Josh Hawley's wife.

They filed the case in Amarillo TX because they were 100% assured of getting this particular one judge. Said judge is a former extreme anti-abortion activist.

He struck down an FDA approval of a drug that was approved over 20 years ago. Data says said drug is safer than penicillin.

Judge says the FDA failed to consider the psychological side effects on women who have abortions (depression, suicide -- highly suspect data).

Majority of abortions in the country are now done via medication.

Medication abortion is safer than medical abortion or giving birth.

Judge would ban said drug across all 50 states. So much for letting the states decide the abortion question.

TL/DR -- this is bat shirt crazy. But not activist, right? Just calling balls and strikes...

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:22 pm
by DocBarrister
ggait wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:06 pm So the lawyer on the Texas case is Sen. Josh Hawley's wife.

They filed the case in Amarillo TX because they were 100% assured of getting this particular one judge. Said judge is a former extreme anti-abortion activist.

He struck down an FDA approval of a drug that was approved over 20 years ago. Data says said drug is safer than penicillin.

Judge says the FDA failed to consider the psychological side effects on women who have abortions (depression, suicide -- highly suspect data).

Majority of abortions in the country are now done via medication.

Medication abortion is safer than medical abortion or giving birth.

Judge would ban said drug across all 50 states. So much for letting the states decide the abortion question.

TL/DR -- this is bat shirt crazy. But not activist, right? Just calling balls and strikes...
The Texas judge should be impeached and removed from the bench. Shouldn’t even be permitted to practice law. He is ignoring the entire Congressionally mandated scheme for regulating pharmaceuticals.

DocBarrister :?

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:40 pm
by MDlaxfan76
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:33 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:44 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:58 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:11 am Tennessee, laboratory of the Reichstag:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/opin ... ction.html

"Yesterday the eyes of the country were on the indictment of a former president, along with the all too real possibility that political or public chaos would erupt as a result. Here in Tennessee, we were watching a different kind of chaos unfold as our state government doubled down on its love affair with guns, even in the immediate aftermath of a horrific school shooting. I wish I could tell you that guns were the worst of it.

Last Thursday, in the wake of the shooting, peaceful protesters at the Tennessee State Capitol rallied for gun reform. Activists waved signs in the statehouse gallery, and Representatives Justin Jones, Gloria Johnson and Justin J. Pearson, all Democrats, led them in chants from the House floor during breaks. Between bills, the lawmakers also approached the podium to speak. They did not wait to be formally recognized.

On Monday, statehouse Republicans stripped all three of their committee memberships and deactivated their ID badges. The Democrats “did knowingly and intentionally bring disorder and dishonor to the House of Representatives,” the formal resolutions against them read. Tomorrow, the House will vote on whether to expel the three lawmakers for talking out of turn.

Expulsion is extremely rare in Tennessee history. As the Politico reporter Natalie Allison pointed out on Twitter, the Tennessee House didn’t even vote to expel a Republican legislator who had been accused of sexually assaulting three teenage girls.

The resolutions against Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson were filed against a backdrop that highlights the absurdity of the actions Republicans have taken against them.

On Monday at 10:13 a.m., one week to the minute after a shooter armed with military-style weapons entered the church-affiliated Covenant School and murdered three children and three adults, more than 7,000 Nashville students staged a walkout to demand gun reform. It was a sight to behold: Vanderbilt University students marching down one street, Belmont University students marching down another, all of them joining a large crowd of high school and college students from around town. They were determined to speak as one voice directly to their government — to the only people with any power to reduce the risks they take just by going to class.

No place in this firearm-besotted country is safe from gun violence, but Tennessee students are at particular risk, and not just in school. They live in a state with some of the nation’s most permissive gun laws, as well as the highest rate of gun theft — and perhaps unsurprisingly, one of the highest rates of gun deaths.

The guns that killed the children and staff members at Covenant last week were all purchased legally, despite the fact that the shooter was being treated for an emotional disorder. If Tennessee had enacted a red-flag law before now, it’s fair to believe that six deeply mourned members of the Covenant community would still be alive. Countless others would be, too.

Until yesterday, when the judiciary committee of the State Senate voted to postpone all gun-related legislation — including a red-flag law jointly proposed by Senator Jeff Yarbro and House member Caleb Hemmer, both Democrats — the Tennessee General Assembly showed every sign of turning Nashville’s school shooting into an opportunity to weaken gun safety in the state even further.

The shamelessness on display was breathtaking. “If there is a firearm out there that you’re comfortable being shot with, please show me which one it is,” a Republican state representative said to student protesters. Presumably he meant that banning assault-style guns wouldn’t prevent students from being shot with other kinds of guns, but that’s not much of an argument coming from a pro-gun legislator who opposes red-flag laws.

These repeated demonstrations for gun safety legislation were the context in which the Republican supermajority of the Tennessee House moved to expel Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson from the statehouse. But the three Democrats had more than public sentiment on their side. They had more, even, than moral authority on their side. They also had a practical reason for flouting chamber rules: “Our mics were cut off throughout the week whenever we tried to bring up the issue of gun violence,” Mr. Jones told WKRN.

Ms. Johnson is a retired teacher and veteran legislator who represents parts of Knox County in East Tennessee, but the two men are new to the General Assembly. In a special election this year to replace a House member who died in October, Memphis voters elected Mr. Pearson in a landslide. Mr. Jones represents a district in Nashville. After winning the Democratic primary, he ran unopposed in the November election.

Both men are skilled community organizers. Mr. Pearson led the successful effort to stop the Byhalia Connection Pipeline from running through a historic Black neighborhood in Memphis. Mr. Jones led the successful effort to have a bust of the Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest removed from the State Capitol.

Disenfranchisement of liberal voters is nothing new in the state of Tennessee, but what the G.O.P is trying to do to these Democrats goes well beyond disenfranchisement. To remove legitimately elected officials from the chamber to which voters sent them — and to do so precisely because those officials were representing the wishes of voters — is nothing short of authoritarianism. And the Republican supermajority in the Tennessee General Assembly has the votes to do it.

Still, I can’t help but hope that Tennesseans will protest the precedent their leaders are about to establish. I still have hope that voters, even Republican voters, will contact their legislators today, in time to make at least some of them stop and reconsider what they are poised to do.

What Tennessee Republicans may think of Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson is far less important than what Tennessee Republicans may think about American democracy. Because democracy does not exist in a state where officials can be sent home for nothing more than voicing the opinions of voters who are pounding on the statehouse door, demanding to be heard.

In fundamental ways, none of this is surprising. Twenty-first-century Republicans are always demonstrating a truth that the Roman historian Tacitus understood back in the first century: It is part of human nature to hate someone you have hurt. In refusing to expand Medicaid, in attempting to replace public schools with private charters, in disenfranchising Democratic voters, in persecuting L.G.B.T.Q. citizens and demonizing school librarians, in stripping bodily autonomy from Tennessee women and in failing to protect us all from gunfire, they are telling us exactly how they feel about the people they represent.

My real hope lies in people like Justin J. Pearson, Gloria Johnson and Justin Jones. Whatever happens to them at the hands of their fellow legislators tomorrow, we have not heard the last from them. Of that I have absolute confidence. The shining example of the great John Lewis, who cut his own teeth opposing injustice in Nashville, taught them how to cause “good trouble.” Clearly, they have learned from the master."
The two Justins are super impressive young men.
She's strong in her own right, but they have rockstar talent.

Quite amazing what's been happening in Nashville.
... hard to believe how stupid Tennessee republiCONS are, but then again they are short dicked white men. :lol: :lol:

The two young black democratic representatives and the older white woman representative got the best of the short dicked losers.
Is there anything in their expulsion that precludes Pearson and Jones from running and winning again in their districts, returning to their positions, and giving the democracy and first amendment hating clowns a big middle finger?
There does appear to be the chance that they can be re-appointed by their district councils, serve, and then run again in due course.

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:00 pm
by ggait
ggait wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:06 pm So the lawyer on the Texas case is Sen. Josh Hawley's wife.

They filed the case in Amarillo TX because they were 100% assured of getting this particular one judge. Said judge is a former extreme anti-abortion activist.

He struck down an FDA approval of a drug that was approved over 20 years ago. Data says said drug is safer than penicillin.

Judge says the FDA failed to consider the psychological side effects on women who have abortions (depression, suicide -- highly suspect data).

Majority of abortions in the country are now done via medication.

Medication abortion is safer than medical abortion or giving birth.

Judge would ban said drug across all 50 states. So much for letting the states decide the abortion question.

TL/DR -- this is bat shirt crazy. But not activist, right? Just calling balls and strikes...
And a couple more batshirt crazy aspects to this ridiculous decison.

The crazy judge purports to grant to an immediate nation-wide injunction striking down a decades old FDA drug approval. Just because he thinks he's a better scientist than them. If there actually is an issue with the FDA approval (doubtful) the reasonable way to do that is to let the plaintifs prove their case in court on the basis of evidence submitted. An injunction is only supposed to be used in the case of emergencies and unavoidable immediate harm. Said drug has been used millions of times over two decades. So the immediate emergency is what exactly?

Also, the decision feeds up into the 5th Circuit, which also has plenty of cray cray. You'd think that even the 5th Circuit would smack this whack judge down. But I wouldn't bet on it.

But we're not activist... What complete horse shirt.

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:00 am
by jhu72
DocBarrister wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:22 pm
ggait wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:06 pm So the lawyer on the Texas case is Sen. Josh Hawley's wife.

They filed the case in Amarillo TX because they were 100% assured of getting this particular one judge. Said judge is a former extreme anti-abortion activist.

He struck down an FDA approval of a drug that was approved over 20 years ago. Data says said drug is safer than penicillin.

Judge says the FDA failed to consider the psychological side effects on women who have abortions (depression, suicide -- highly suspect data).

Majority of abortions in the country are now done via medication.

Medication abortion is safer than medical abortion or giving birth.

Judge would ban said drug across all 50 states. So much for letting the states decide the abortion question.

TL/DR -- this is bat shirt crazy. But not activist, right? Just calling balls and strikes...
The Texas judge should be impeached and removed from the bench. Shouldn’t even be permitted to practice law. He is ignoring the entire Congressionally mandated scheme for regulating pharmaceuticals.

DocBarrister :?
... you are correct. I don't see the administration following the judges order.

The clown should be arrested and jailed for practicing medicine without a license.

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:35 am
by jhu72
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:33 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:44 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:58 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:11 am Tennessee, laboratory of the Reichstag:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/opin ... ction.html

"Yesterday the eyes of the country were on the indictment of a former president, along with the all too real possibility that political or public chaos would erupt as a result. Here in Tennessee, we were watching a different kind of chaos unfold as our state government doubled down on its love affair with guns, even in the immediate aftermath of a horrific school shooting. I wish I could tell you that guns were the worst of it.

Last Thursday, in the wake of the shooting, peaceful protesters at the Tennessee State Capitol rallied for gun reform. Activists waved signs in the statehouse gallery, and Representatives Justin Jones, Gloria Johnson and Justin J. Pearson, all Democrats, led them in chants from the House floor during breaks. Between bills, the lawmakers also approached the podium to speak. They did not wait to be formally recognized.

On Monday, statehouse Republicans stripped all three of their committee memberships and deactivated their ID badges. The Democrats “did knowingly and intentionally bring disorder and dishonor to the House of Representatives,” the formal resolutions against them read. Tomorrow, the House will vote on whether to expel the three lawmakers for talking out of turn.

Expulsion is extremely rare in Tennessee history. As the Politico reporter Natalie Allison pointed out on Twitter, the Tennessee House didn’t even vote to expel a Republican legislator who had been accused of sexually assaulting three teenage girls.

The resolutions against Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson were filed against a backdrop that highlights the absurdity of the actions Republicans have taken against them.

On Monday at 10:13 a.m., one week to the minute after a shooter armed with military-style weapons entered the church-affiliated Covenant School and murdered three children and three adults, more than 7,000 Nashville students staged a walkout to demand gun reform. It was a sight to behold: Vanderbilt University students marching down one street, Belmont University students marching down another, all of them joining a large crowd of high school and college students from around town. They were determined to speak as one voice directly to their government — to the only people with any power to reduce the risks they take just by going to class.

No place in this firearm-besotted country is safe from gun violence, but Tennessee students are at particular risk, and not just in school. They live in a state with some of the nation’s most permissive gun laws, as well as the highest rate of gun theft — and perhaps unsurprisingly, one of the highest rates of gun deaths.

The guns that killed the children and staff members at Covenant last week were all purchased legally, despite the fact that the shooter was being treated for an emotional disorder. If Tennessee had enacted a red-flag law before now, it’s fair to believe that six deeply mourned members of the Covenant community would still be alive. Countless others would be, too.

Until yesterday, when the judiciary committee of the State Senate voted to postpone all gun-related legislation — including a red-flag law jointly proposed by Senator Jeff Yarbro and House member Caleb Hemmer, both Democrats — the Tennessee General Assembly showed every sign of turning Nashville’s school shooting into an opportunity to weaken gun safety in the state even further.

The shamelessness on display was breathtaking. “If there is a firearm out there that you’re comfortable being shot with, please show me which one it is,” a Republican state representative said to student protesters. Presumably he meant that banning assault-style guns wouldn’t prevent students from being shot with other kinds of guns, but that’s not much of an argument coming from a pro-gun legislator who opposes red-flag laws.

These repeated demonstrations for gun safety legislation were the context in which the Republican supermajority of the Tennessee House moved to expel Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson from the statehouse. But the three Democrats had more than public sentiment on their side. They had more, even, than moral authority on their side. They also had a practical reason for flouting chamber rules: “Our mics were cut off throughout the week whenever we tried to bring up the issue of gun violence,” Mr. Jones told WKRN.

Ms. Johnson is a retired teacher and veteran legislator who represents parts of Knox County in East Tennessee, but the two men are new to the General Assembly. In a special election this year to replace a House member who died in October, Memphis voters elected Mr. Pearson in a landslide. Mr. Jones represents a district in Nashville. After winning the Democratic primary, he ran unopposed in the November election.

Both men are skilled community organizers. Mr. Pearson led the successful effort to stop the Byhalia Connection Pipeline from running through a historic Black neighborhood in Memphis. Mr. Jones led the successful effort to have a bust of the Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest removed from the State Capitol.

Disenfranchisement of liberal voters is nothing new in the state of Tennessee, but what the G.O.P is trying to do to these Democrats goes well beyond disenfranchisement. To remove legitimately elected officials from the chamber to which voters sent them — and to do so precisely because those officials were representing the wishes of voters — is nothing short of authoritarianism. And the Republican supermajority in the Tennessee General Assembly has the votes to do it.

Still, I can’t help but hope that Tennesseans will protest the precedent their leaders are about to establish. I still have hope that voters, even Republican voters, will contact their legislators today, in time to make at least some of them stop and reconsider what they are poised to do.

What Tennessee Republicans may think of Mr. Jones, Ms. Johnson and Mr. Pearson is far less important than what Tennessee Republicans may think about American democracy. Because democracy does not exist in a state where officials can be sent home for nothing more than voicing the opinions of voters who are pounding on the statehouse door, demanding to be heard.

In fundamental ways, none of this is surprising. Twenty-first-century Republicans are always demonstrating a truth that the Roman historian Tacitus understood back in the first century: It is part of human nature to hate someone you have hurt. In refusing to expand Medicaid, in attempting to replace public schools with private charters, in disenfranchising Democratic voters, in persecuting L.G.B.T.Q. citizens and demonizing school librarians, in stripping bodily autonomy from Tennessee women and in failing to protect us all from gunfire, they are telling us exactly how they feel about the people they represent.

My real hope lies in people like Justin J. Pearson, Gloria Johnson and Justin Jones. Whatever happens to them at the hands of their fellow legislators tomorrow, we have not heard the last from them. Of that I have absolute confidence. The shining example of the great John Lewis, who cut his own teeth opposing injustice in Nashville, taught them how to cause “good trouble.” Clearly, they have learned from the master."
The two Justins are super impressive young men.
She's strong in her own right, but they have rockstar talent.

Quite amazing what's been happening in Nashville.
... hard to believe how stupid Tennessee republiCONS are, but then again they are short dicked white men. :lol: :lol:

The two young black democratic representatives and the older white woman representative got the best of the short dicked losers.
Is there anything in their expulsion that precludes Pearson and Jones from running and winning again in their districts, returning to their positions, and giving the democracy and first amendment hating clowns a big middle finger?
... my understanding is that they will go right back to their positions if reappointed (however that is done). There apparently is a TN law that says they can't be expelled again for the same charge (according to talking heads). This is going to the courts and the streets and ultimately the voters. I guess these geniuses thought it would be a good idea ahead of 2024 to give the entire country a perfect example of republiCON fascism. This one is real hard to see and not understand exactly what it is.

Dumbass short dicks declaring war on 70+ % of the population, all women and minorities over a two day period. :lol: :lol: Not exactly great strategic thinkers.

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:13 am
by jhu72
In other good news (bad news for the short dicks), Disney has announced the next Star Wars movie. Rey (Daisy is back) and other woman heros will figure significantly in the story as will diverse characters of color and race. The director is an American educated Pakistani woman. That should tie the short dicks in a knot. :lol: :lol:

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:22 pm
by jhu72
More republiCON stupidity. They are big on education vouchers. The problem is, democrats see it for what it is, a move to finally destroy something the republiCONs have been trying to destroy since the 60s, all public education. It's bad enough that these woman hating racist, homophobic, xenophobic, snowflakes have to deal with the democrats, but they now have come to discover, their new rural base hates the idea. A number of red states have this year tried to institute a full voucher system for private education (see Georgia, Texas, etc.), killing public schools. Their rural base doesn't have available private schools and it is far from clear the vouchers will be sufficient to pay for them. A number of republiCON voucher program proposals have been killed by a coalition of these rural voters and the city democrats.

MAGA. :roll: :lol:

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:25 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
jhu72 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:13 am In other good news (bad news for the short dicks), Disney has announced the next Star Wars movie. Rey (Daisy is back) and other woman heros will figure significantly in the story as will diverse characters of color and race. The director is an American educated Pakistani woman. That should tie the short dicks in a knot. :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol:

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:29 pm
by jhu72

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:48 am
by jhu72
RepubiCON snowflakes whine about auto manufacturers. :roll: The world just revolves around these losers. :lol:

Re: Conservative Ideology Off the Rails

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:21 am
by Brooklyn
loony freedom hating republiCONs:




https://i.imgur.com/z4Y6UXy.jpg