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Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:08 am
by jhu72
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:55 am
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:41 am America today.
Something hinky here doc. The woman goes from wanting to pay for their meal to tossing around eff bombs and racial slurs. Something does not seem right. I'm guessing the woman has some mental issues.
Maybe.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:17 am
by cradleandshoot
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:08 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:55 am
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:41 am America today.
Something hinky here doc. The woman goes from wanting to pay for their meal to tossing around eff bombs and racial slurs. Something does not seem right. I'm guessing the woman has some mental issues.
Maybe.
Paul Harvey would have waited to know the rest of the story.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:36 am
by DMac
Nope, I wouldn't call that crackerjack reporting or getting the whole story.
I particularly like this part;
Correction: An earlier version of this report identified the four men as Army officers. They are Army soldiers.
Guess those officers aren't soldiers, eh?

Where would a waiter with one leg work?
IHOP :D

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:49 am
by Typical Lax Dad
DMac wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:36 am Nope, I wouldn't call that crackerjack reporting or getting the whole story.
I particularly like this part;
Correction: An earlier version of this report identified the four men as Army officers. They are Army soldiers.
Guess those officers aren't soldiers, eh?

Where would a waiter with one leg work?
IHOP :D
:D

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:50 am
by Farfromgeneva
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.
Such a slam dunk that even Peter brown could’ve convicted him!

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
by Peter Brown
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:30 pm
by cradleandshoot
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
He got a fair trial. His knee on Floyd's neck after he was already dead is video that speaks for itself. The very first time I saw it I was appalled at his actions. Ignoring repeated pleas to get off Floyd when he had no pulse and was unconscious. What the heck was this stupid cop thinking? You restrain someone only for as long as you have to. The effing paramedics pleading with him to get off of the guy. What the heck more did the cop need to hear to understand the man was a whisper away from being dead.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:41 pm
by MDlaxfan76
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:30 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
He got a fair trial. His knee on Floyd's neck after he was already dead is video that speaks for itself. The very first time I saw it I was appalled at his actions. Ignoring repeated pleas to get off Floyd when he had no pulse and was unconscious. What the heck was this stupid cop thinking? You restrain someone only for as long as you have to. The effing paramedics pleading with him to get off of the guy. What the heck more did the cop need to hear to understand the man was a whisper away from being dead.
47% of Republicans think he was literally not guilty...we don't know what percentage of those bothered to watch the trial or even the entire video, but these a-holes are doubling and tripling down...likely high overlap with the more than 50% of them who still believe the election was rigged for Biden and he's not actually the POTUS.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... 635a9f1b3f

I've understood the whole argument about the 'white working class, middle America left behind' argument to explain Trump's rise, but something more is at work in the level of crazy that we're seeing in folks who we'd otherwise think were sane...yet actually believe this sort of crap.

Yes, there's dumb, crazed on the left too...but wow, this really is off the hook when we're talking this high a % on the right.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:42 pm
by Peter Brown
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:30 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.
You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
He got a fair trial. His knee on Floyd's neck after he was already dead is video that speaks for itself. The very first time I saw it I was appalled at his actions. Ignoring repeated pleas to get off Floyd when he had no pulse and was unconscious. What the heck was this stupid cop thinking? You restrain someone only for as long as you have to. The effing paramedics pleading with him to get off of the guy. What the heck more did the cop need to hear to understand the man was a whisper away from being dead.



What you say is true, that Chauvin is guilty (at least of manslaughter).

It is also true that the left has corrupted trials like this in America where there really is no way he can get a fair trial. It is what it is. No rational observer would take issue with that. And it will only get worse if all we do is wink at their methods and practices.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:55 pm
by jhu72
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:41 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:30 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
He got a fair trial. His knee on Floyd's neck after he was already dead is video that speaks for itself. The very first time I saw it I was appalled at his actions. Ignoring repeated pleas to get off Floyd when he had no pulse and was unconscious. What the heck was this stupid cop thinking? You restrain someone only for as long as you have to. The effing paramedics pleading with him to get off of the guy. What the heck more did the cop need to hear to understand the man was a whisper away from being dead.
47% of Republicans think he was literally not guilty...we don't know what percentage of those bothered to watch the trial or even the entire video, but these a-holes are doubling and tripling down...likely high overlap with the more than 50% of them who still believe the election was rigged for Biden and he's not actually the POTUS.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... 635a9f1b3f

I've understood the whole argument about the 'white working class, middle America left behind' argument to explain Trump's rise, but something more is at work in the level of crazy that we're seeing in folks who we'd otherwise think were sane...yet actually believe this sort of crap.

Yes, there's dumb, crazed on the left too...but wow, this really is off the hook when we're talking this high a % on the right.
Going into the 2020 election, the thinking was about 50% of Trump voters were deplorables. There was no reaching them, ever, they were terminally brain washed. 50% were just anti-Hillary and working class whites that bought into Trump's economic lies. It's looking like many fewer of the second 50% and more deplorables. A possible explanation is that 4 years of Trump is responsible this. After a 100 days, nothing has changed.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:04 pm
by cradleandshoot
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:55 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:41 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:30 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
He got a fair trial. His knee on Floyd's neck after he was already dead is video that speaks for itself. The very first time I saw it I was appalled at his actions. Ignoring repeated pleas to get off Floyd when he had no pulse and was unconscious. What the heck was this stupid cop thinking? You restrain someone only for as long as you have to. The effing paramedics pleading with him to get off of the guy. What the heck more did the cop need to hear to understand the man was a whisper away from being dead.
47% of Republicans think he was literally not guilty...we don't know what percentage of those bothered to watch the trial or even the entire video, but these a-holes are doubling and tripling down...likely high overlap with the more than 50% of them who still believe the election was rigged for Biden and he's not actually the POTUS.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... 635a9f1b3f

I've understood the whole argument about the 'white working class, middle America left behind' argument to explain Trump's rise, but something more is at work in the level of crazy that we're seeing in folks who we'd otherwise think were sane...yet actually believe this sort of crap.

Yes, there's dumb, crazed on the left too...but wow, this really is off the hook when we're talking this high a % on the right.
Going into the 2020 election, the thinking was about 50% of Trump voters were deplorables. There was no reaching them, ever, they were terminally brain washed. 50% were just anti-Hillary and working class whites that bought into Trump's economic lies. It's looking like many fewer of the second 50% and more deplorables. A possible explanation is that 4 years of Trump is responsible this. After a 100 days, nothing has changed.
I must be the exception to the rule. I never believed a gosh darn thing Trump said about anything. I just loathed, hated and despised the queen of evil. Dealing with trump for 4 years was still the lesser of 2 evils in my opinion. Knowing the queen of evil lost her mind and practically had a nervous breakdown when trump of all people defeated her.. that was worth 4 years of trump In my book.
To paraphrase Forrest Gump.. sometimes there's just not enough lamps.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:29 pm
by jhu72
So DOJ is investigating Minneapolis PD. They announced today they are doing the same thing to Louisville PD. The ex. Maryland Medical Examiner who testified for the defense is also being investigated for malpractice by the Maryland States Attorney Brian Frosh.

Medical Examiner Investigation

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:44 pm
by Peter Brown
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:29 pm So DOJ is investigating Minneapolis PD. They announced today they are doing the same thing to Louisville PD. The ex. Maryland Medical Examiner who testified for the defense is also being investigated for malpractice by the Maryland States Attorney Brian Frosh.

Medical Examiner Investigation


In other news, crime set to soar even more in Minneapolis and Louisville. Cops to retire as soon as they can. No preventative policing.

Could be related, I dunno.

🤡

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:48 pm
by Peter Brown
Louisville press conference now.

What a bunch of Democratic bozos.

They’re lying down for the DOJ, who won’t ultimately do anything. They came to Baltimore and sought oversight. What happened? Cops stopped policing. Murders skyrocketed. Same in Chicago.

But everyone congratulated themself anyway.

Same will happen here. Murders will skyrocket.

Democrats are the enemy of normal Americans. Never forget it.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:05 pm
by jhu72
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:29 pm So DOJ is investigating Minneapolis PD. They announced today they are doing the same thing to Louisville PD. The ex. Maryland Medical Examiner who testified for the defense is also being investigated for malpractice by the Maryland States Attorney Brian Frosh.

Medical Examiner Investigation
Last week Eric Garland undid the Trump era block on consent decrees. This tool will allow DOJ to begin to enact some of the changes sought through the George Floyd bill prior to it being enacted, as best practices on a department by department basis.

Louisville Mayor and PD Chief currently holding a presser in which they are welcoming the investigation. Both Minneapolis and Louisville will end up with consent decrees.

No - there will not be an unmanagable exit of officers in these cities, just like there hasn't in Baltimore. Baltimore staffing levels are a result of economics and budgets.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:08 pm
by PizzaSnake
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
You think the American “justice” system is “just” and “impartial”? That it ever was?

Naive much or simple-minded?

I’d venture a guess that every poster here was “born on third”. Some of us realize our good fortune, others think
they “hit a triple”.

Which one are you?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:41 pm
by Peter Brown
PizzaSnake wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:08 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
You think the American “justice” system is “just” and “impartial”? That it ever was?

Naive much or simple-minded?

I’d venture a guess that every poster here was “born on third”. Some of us realize our good fortune, others think
they “hit a triple”.

Which one are you?



Let me answer the only legitimate question your febrile mind spit up. Is the American justice system just and impartial?

To some extent, yes. To some extent, no. But to all extents, not what you’re thinking.

There is a small dirt poor village in southwest Florida called Everglades city. It used to be a purely fishing village. The feds unilaterally took away the fisherman’s rights to fish the waters they used to fish in. No compensation, just the threat of prison if they went out and fished again.

So the residents took to the only manner of making money that was offered. They took marijuana from offshore boats and brought it ashore. The feds investigated this town for years, then one day, they shut off access to and from on the only road to Everglades City. They proceeded to arrest half the town. If you wouldn’t rat on your brother, they threw the book at you. 40 year sentences.

The feds ruined whole families. Now, Democrats love to talk about making marijuana legal and certainly unpunishable.

Where is your sympathy for these poor families whose lives were ruined by your adored federal government? All you complain about is black this and black that, when want it actually is is government abuse. You bozos love racial discord so much, you don’t even know what the real problem is.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:03 pm
by PizzaSnake
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:41 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:08 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
You think the American “justice” system is “just” and “impartial”? That it ever was?

Naive much or simple-minded?

I’d venture a guess that every poster here was “born on third”. Some of us realize our good fortune, others think
they “hit a triple”.

Which one are you?



Let me answer the only legitimate question your febrile mind spit up. Is the American justice system just and impartial?

To some extent, yes. To some extent, no. But to all extents, not what you’re thinking.

There is a small dirt poor village in southwest Florida called Everglades city. It used to be a purely fishing village. The feds unilaterally took away the fisherman’s rights to fish the waters they used to fish in. No compensation, just the threat of prison if they went out and fished again.

So the residents took to the only manner of making money that was offered. They took marijuana from offshore boats and brought it ashore. The feds investigated this town for years, then one day, they shut off access to and from on the only road to Everglades City. They proceeded to arrest half the town. If you wouldn’t rat on your brother, they threw the book at you. 40 year sentences.

The feds ruined whole families. Now, Democrats love to talk about making marijuana legal and certainly unpunishable.

Where is your sympathy for these poor families whose lives were ruined by your adored federal government? All you complain about is black this and black that, when want it actually is is government abuse. You bozos love racial discord so much, you don’t even know what the real problem is.
Thanks for recognizing the legitimacy of my point, most gracious savant.

Another argument by anecdote — neither strong nor persuasive.

Agreeing with my point about the inequity of the justice system followed by a plaintive bleat about someone done wrong makes you sound like a country and western lyricist.

So we agree that human artifices like government are flawed. Where we differ is in a prescription for corrective action. You appear to believe that human nature unfettered by communal restraints of the the commonweal will be more advantageous. I disagree, vociferously.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:04 pm
by PizzaSnake
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:41 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:08 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
You think the American “justice” system is “just” and “impartial”? That it ever was?

Naive much or simple-minded?

I’d venture a guess that every poster here was “born on third”. Some of us realize our good fortune, others think
they “hit a triple”.

Which one are you?



Let me answer the only legitimate question your febrile mind spit up. Is the American justice system just and impartial?

To some extent, yes. To some extent, no. But to all extents, not what you’re thinking.

There is a small dirt poor village in southwest Florida called Everglades city. It used to be a purely fishing village. The feds unilaterally took away the fisherman’s rights to fish the waters they used to fish in. No compensation, just the threat of prison if they went out and fished again.

So the residents took to the only manner of making money that was offered. They took marijuana from offshore boats and brought it ashore. The feds investigated this town for years, then one day, they shut off access to and from on the only road to Everglades City. They proceeded to arrest half the town. If you wouldn’t rat on your brother, they threw the book at you. 40 year sentences.

The feds ruined whole families. Now, Democrats love to talk about making marijuana legal and certainly unpunishable.

Where is your sympathy for these poor families whose lives were ruined by your adored federal government? All you complain about is black this and black that, when want it actually is is government abuse. You bozos love racial discord so much, you don’t even know what the real problem is.
Duplicate.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:06 pm
by Peter Brown
PizzaSnake wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:03 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:41 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:08 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:55 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.



You’re gonna miss the authors point, too?!?

The point is not that he’s guilty, the point is the left has bastardized the justice system to the level where he couldn’t get a fair trial no matter what. You don’t think the jury felt pressure? Not sequestered. Seeing an armed fortress every day.

C’mon.
You think the American “justice” system is “just” and “impartial”? That it ever was?

Naive much or simple-minded?

I’d venture a guess that every poster here was “born on third”. Some of us realize our good fortune, others think
they “hit a triple”.

Which one are you?



Let me answer the only legitimate question your febrile mind spit up. Is the American justice system just and impartial?

To some extent, yes. To some extent, no. But to all extents, not what you’re thinking.

There is a small dirt poor village in southwest Florida called Everglades city. It used to be a purely fishing village. The feds unilaterally took away the fisherman’s rights to fish the waters they used to fish in. No compensation, just the threat of prison if they went out and fished again.

So the residents took to the only manner of making money that was offered. They took marijuana from offshore boats and brought it ashore. The feds investigated this town for years, then one day, they shut off access to and from on the only road to Everglades City. They proceeded to arrest half the town. If you wouldn’t rat on your brother, they threw the book at you. 40 year sentences.

The feds ruined whole families. Now, Democrats love to talk about making marijuana legal and certainly unpunishable.

Where is your sympathy for these poor families whose lives were ruined by your adored federal government? All you complain about is black this and black that, when want it actually is is government abuse. You bozos love racial discord so much, you don’t even know what the real problem is.
Thanks for recognizing the legitimacy of my point, of gracious savant.

Another argument by anecdote — neither strong nor persuasive.

Agreeing with my point about the inequity of the justice system followed by a plaintive bleat about someone done wrong makes you sound like a country and western lyricist.

So we agree that human artifices like government are flawed. Where we differ is in a prescription for corrective action. You appear to believe that human nature unfettered by communal restraints of the the commonweal will be more advantageous. I disagree, vociferously.



That’s because you fundamentally don’t trust other people. Which makes me question why you object to most voting identification laws.