Re: IMPEACHMENT ... How many Articles?
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:50 pm
Karlan’s cheap shot invoking Baron Trump’s name just lost them any shred of hope that they’re going to win this impeachment battle in the court of public opinion.
Same Party, Different House
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I disagree. Her comment did not disparage Barron in any respect. What? You can’t even mention his name? I think Mel overreacted. I actually don’t think Karlan owed anyone an apology.
Ask the DoJ. Remember, according to the Trump DoJ, you CAN'T indict a sitting President.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:47 pm.. ...it started as a criminal investigation of 5 guys, caught in the act of a B&E of the DNC HQ.
Impeachment proceeding were started because the criminal investigation implicated members of Nixon's campaigns.
Compare that to Rudy & the 3 Amigoes. Where are the indictments ?
They don't need to indict the President. They indicted the burglars, then the plumbers, leading to the President.a fan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:03 pmAsk the DoJ. Remember, according to the Trump DoJ, you CAN'T indict a sitting President.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:47 pm.. ...it started as a criminal investigation of 5 guys, caught in the act of a B&E of the DNC HQ.
Impeachment proceeding were started because the criminal investigation implicated members of Nixon's campaigns.
Compare that to Rudy & the 3 Amigoes. Where are the indictments ?
Laughably, what you're saying here is that if Nixon himself had broken in to the Watergate instead of his toadies, there'd be no indictment. "Therefore", his impeachment trial would be a Constitutional outrage. Make zero sense.
You, YA, and now Jim Malone have made it clear to all future Presidents that asking foreign leaders to do a political hit job on their enemies is ok. Add in that violations that the emoluments clause don't matter to you....we're going to have a lovely future as a country.
My fellow posters and i don't get it......but here we are. You just don't care.
Nah. It was different.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:47 pm.. ...it started as a criminal investigation of 5 guys, caught in the act of a B&E of the DNC HQ.
Impeachment proceeding were started because the criminal investigation implicated members of Nixon's campaigns.
Compare that to Rudy & the 3 Amigoes. Where are the indictments ?
Great post; right on the money.ggait wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:26 pmWhile that is what Turley is saying, he's got zero legal basis for that opinion. That is just his personal preference. Constitution is clear -- the House has the SOLE POWER to impeach. THAT is the law. And it is reasonable to go ahead and play the game to see how it turns out. It in no way is an abuse. Silly to say that you have to have to conviction locked down in order to start the process.Initiating Impeachment procedures for an offense that does not generate that level of support is an abuse of the process, whether in 1998 or 2019. That's what Turley's trying to tell you partisan zealots.
And all the Senators and House members will have to answer to the voters for what they do or don't do. They decide if there is/is not abuse. All nice and tidy and democratic.
Turley is one of the very very few who believe (i) Clinton's offenses were impeachable and (ii) Trump's offenses are not. Actually even Turley himself really doesn't believe (ii). He just doesn't think (ii) has yet been proved. That's a judgment of the facts, not the law.
Yes, it took 2 years after a break-in that no one realized involved Nixon at first...took quite awhile before it was realized to actually be about Nixon. Even then, it was the cover-up, not the original crime, that had him on the way to being impeached.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:23 pmThey don't need to indict the President. They indicted the burglars, then the plumbers, leading to the President.a fan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:03 pmAsk the DoJ. Remember, according to the Trump DoJ, you CAN'T indict a sitting President.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:47 pm.. ...it started as a criminal investigation of 5 guys, caught in the act of a B&E of the DNC HQ.
Impeachment proceeding were started because the criminal investigation implicated members of Nixon's campaigns.
Compare that to Rudy & the 3 Amigoes. Where are the indictments ?
Laughably, what you're saying here is that if Nixon himself had broken in to the Watergate instead of his toadies, there'd be no indictment. "Therefore", his impeachment trial would be a Constitutional outrage. Make zero sense.
You, YA, and now Jim Malone have made it clear to all future Presidents that asking foreign leaders to do a political hit job on their enemies is ok. Add in that violations that the emoluments clause don't matter to you....we're going to have a lovely future as a country.
My fellow posters and i don't get it......but here we are. You just don't care.
They just indicted Lev, ...will it lead to anything ? He put Nunes in Vienna -- howzat workin out ?
Can't wait & see, gotta impeach NOW ...maybe because there's nothing more to find.
It was almost 2 years from the Watergate break in until the start of House Impeachment proceedings.
I'm the one who reminded you of the Watergate timeline, remember?old salt wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:23 pm They don't need to indict the President. They indicted the burglars, then the plumbers, leading to the President.
They just indicted Lev, ...will it lead to anything ? He put Nunes in Vienna -- howzat workin out ?
Can't wait & see, gotta impeach NOW ...maybe because there's nothing more to find.
It was almost 2 years from the Watergate break in until the start of House Impeachment proceedings.
Are you one of those TDS Loons who thinks Bill Clinton isn’t a rapist and pedophile? Did you have a tingle up your leg when Obama was elected?
You don't know that. When we first gutted this bloated, fetid Ukrainian hog, I cautioned that we should wait until all the entrails are examined.a fan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:06 pmI'm the one who reminded you of the Watergate timeline, remember?old salt wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:23 pm They don't need to indict the President. They indicted the burglars, then the plumbers, leading to the President.
They just indicted Lev, ...will it lead to anything ? He put Nunes in Vienna -- howzat workin out ?
Can't wait & see, gotta impeach NOW ...maybe because there's nothing more to find.
It was almost 2 years from the Watergate break in until the start of House Impeachment proceedings.
But since you asked, and to use your Watergate metaphor, the President and his personal lawyer copped to the burglary on live TV.
The issue is: you and millions of Republican voters don't care that he did that. That's why this all looks like a circus to you. Indicting Lev and Giulani for election violations and whatnot won't change that.
It's really that cut and dry.
Seek help. You suffer greatly from TDS. You’re really bad at this.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles ... awsuit.pdfBandito wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:11 pmAre you one of those TDS Loons who thinks Bill Clinton isn’t a rapist and pedophile? Did you have a tingle up your leg when Obama was elected?
Are you one of those DemonKKKrats who doesn’t know that the DemonKKKrats are the party of slavery, racism, the KKK, Nazism and socialism? You suffer greatly from TDS. You better find your safe space. Trump is your President and your Daddy. Suck it.
@HouseDemocrats have thrown every accusation at @POTUS @realdonaldtrump they can conjure:
— Russian collusion
— Obstruction of justice
— Quid pro quo
— Bribery
— Witness intimidation
— High crimes and misdemeanors
— Violating the emolument’s clause
All false...what's next?
Stop posting fake news. You and your kind is why Trump won and will win again. Better get readyTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:20 pmhttps://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles ... awsuit.pdfBandito wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:11 pmAre you one of those TDS Loons who thinks Bill Clinton isn’t a rapist and pedophile? Did you have a tingle up your leg when Obama was elected?
Are you one of those DemonKKKrats who doesn’t know that the DemonKKKrats are the party of slavery, racism, the KKK, Nazism and socialism? You suffer greatly from TDS. You better find your safe space. Trump is your President and your Daddy. Suck it.
@HouseDemocrats have thrown every accusation at @POTUS @realdonaldtrump they can conjure:
— Russian collusion
— Obstruction of justice
— Quid pro quo
— Bribery
— Witness intimidation
— High crimes and misdemeanors
— Violating the emolument’s clause
All false...what's next?