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Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:04 am
by Peter Brown
Even Mayor Ted of Portland has thrown in the towel on his Democratic paramilitary.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... -protests/

This gives me hope that even libs have a limit when it comes to the nihilistic liberal babies they’re raising.

Meanwhile Portland is effed.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:55 am
by Brooklyn
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Miss Frazier - a true American heroine.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:12 am
by 6x6
ggait wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:20 pm
"If we are in fact systemically racist, how did the system convict a white policeman? The system worked."
Newt is as much of a racist d-bag troll as you are Petey.

Floyd, basically, was lynched. In broad daylight. For 9.5 minutes. For 3 minutes after Floyd stopped breathing. With literally zero explanation or rationale for the cop's behavior. In front of a crowd of eyewitnesses. And while being video-taped by multiple cameras. On a 1-10 scale of murder case slam-dunkedness, Floyd's case is an 11.

So what does that tell us?

1. Chauvin presumably only did this believing that he could get away with it.

2. In fact, Chauvin did get away with it before! DOJ is now looking into the excluded evidence (including body cam video!) of a 2017 incident where Chauvin choked a kid to unconsciousness, then "Floyd-ed" him (face down on floor, handcuffs behind back, knee restraint) for 9 minutes (neck) and then 8 minutes (back). Luckily, kid did not die. Video never released. Zero action taken against Chauvin. Only coming to light now -- four forking years later.

3. Even turned up to 11, many people were (reasonably) quite surprised/relieved that Chauvin was convicted. Because it hardly ever happens. Even with mountains of evidence.

4. We all know that absent eye witness video tape (a fairly recent phenomenon), Chauvin totally walks. I mean he walked in 2017 WITH video! No way he gets convicted just on the basis of a dozen eyewitnesses.

5. Look at the MPD read out of the incident -- medical distress.... Without the cell phone video going viral, the cover-up and fix were in and would have worked.

So...respectfully...STFU and please go away. Your racist troll-ness are not welcome here. Shouldn't be welcome anywhere else either.

Your point about Chauvin’s handling of the kid in the 2017 incident certainly raises questions. Arredondo was the police chief then so why didn’t he fire him? Had he done that he might have saved Floyd’s life! In addition, he had been the commander in charge of Internal Affairs so he certainly knew the system, the process for meeting out punishment, their general orders, use of force, dept. policies/procedures, etc.

So is he getting a pass now, wasn’t he somewhat culpable for not doing his job in 2017? I wonder what the DOJ investigation and any possible recommendations or findings will be. Arredondo has been chief for nearly four years now.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:14 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Police unions.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:14 pm
by MDlaxfan76
6x6 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:12 am
ggait wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:20 pm
"If we are in fact systemically racist, how did the system convict a white policeman? The system worked."
Newt is as much of a racist d-bag troll as you are Petey.

Floyd, basically, was lynched. In broad daylight. For 9.5 minutes. For 3 minutes after Floyd stopped breathing. With literally zero explanation or rationale for the cop's behavior. In front of a crowd of eyewitnesses. And while being video-taped by multiple cameras. On a 1-10 scale of murder case slam-dunkedness, Floyd's case is an 11.

So what does that tell us?

1. Chauvin presumably only did this believing that he could get away with it.

2. In fact, Chauvin did get away with it before! DOJ is now looking into the excluded evidence (including body cam video!) of a 2017 incident where Chauvin choked a kid to unconsciousness, then "Floyd-ed" him (face down on floor, handcuffs behind back, knee restraint) for 9 minutes (neck) and then 8 minutes (back). Luckily, kid did not die. Video never released. Zero action taken against Chauvin. Only coming to light now -- four forking years later.

3. Even turned up to 11, many people were (reasonably) quite surprised/relieved that Chauvin was convicted. Because it hardly ever happens. Even with mountains of evidence.

4. We all know that absent eye witness video tape (a fairly recent phenomenon), Chauvin totally walks. I mean he walked in 2017 WITH video! No way he gets convicted just on the basis of a dozen eyewitnesses.

5. Look at the MPD read out of the incident -- medical distress.... Without the cell phone video going viral, the cover-up and fix were in and would have worked.

So...respectfully...STFU and please go away. Your racist troll-ness are not welcome here. Shouldn't be welcome anywhere else either.

Your point about Chauvin’s handling of the kid in the 2017 incident certainly raises questions. Arredondo was the police chief then so why didn’t he fire him? Had he done that he might have saved Floyd’s life! In addition, he had been the commander in charge of Internal Affairs so he certainly knew the system, the process for meeting out punishment, their general orders, use of force, dept. policies/procedures, etc.

So is he getting a pass now, wasn’t he somewhat culpable for not doing his job in 2017? I wonder what the DOJ investigation and any possible recommendations or findings will be. Arredondo has been chief for nearly four years now.
Yup, no "pass", and the DOJ has launched its investigation into pattern of practices. Expect a consent decree and significant further reforms. The problems are system-wide and reforms are crucial. Good cops want them.

I do think this could be a pivot point, because the police dept came out so strongly against Chauvin's actions and the prosecution was successful. However, that too was unlikely without the largest civil rights protest marches in history, across the country, across the world. Interracial in composition. And all that was only possible because witnesses filmed what happened and stood their ground. ggait is correct that none of the above would have happened without the film, indeed the statement made by Chauvin would have been the accepted narrative by most people, ignoring the witnesses.

Heck, 47% of Republicans think the jury conviction was wrong, even now. But that's less than the 2/3 of Republicans who still believe that Biden is not legitimately elected POTUS. Crazy town.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:21 pm
by Farfromgeneva
It’s all fake news.

Driving up to Pennsy for a week or so. Meetings from Mansfield to Scranton-Exton-York-Stroudsburg and mixed w NNJ in Essex, Jersey City, Cranbury, Toms River and Hamilton. Possibly up to a Putnam Co Ny as well. Haven’t done one of these 3+ day multimeeting trips in probably two years now but they’re always interesting bouncing from town to town chopping it up with waitresses and hotel staff and hearing how they think about the world. It’s amazing how you can go two towns over in a not so dense area and see a huge difference (Lancaster and say Donegal PA would be an example). N NJ is pretty straightforward. Can drive into a town and know what you are getting. Pennsylvania is a little different, like N.C., perhaps because there isn’t one dominant city in the sense that you have Philly/Pitt and CLT/Raleigh vs Ga where it’s boom bust w Atlanta, or NY the same way.

(one w golf where I can’t get drunk because I don’t know the exec like that so that sucks because golf sucks)

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:56 pm
by youthathletics

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:23 pm
by Peter Brown
youthathletics wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:56 pm Hilarious and sadly where we are. https://www.instagram.com/p/COGB15ajsQm ... wmcnhetp6g



So good.

You know libs will go bananas watching that, right?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:25 pm
by Peter Brown
Will any libs address the black on Asian crime sweeping America right now?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:47 pm
by PizzaSnake
Peter Brown wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:25 pm Will any libs address the black on Asian crime sweeping America right now?
Meggsy, do you have any friends besides Rosie and her five friends?

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am
by Peter Brown
Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:44 am
by foreverlax
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Slurp it up!!

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:48 am
by SCLaxAttack
foreverlax wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:44 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Slurp it up!!
As Warner would say, “Let’s go to the videotape!”

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:28 am
by kramerica.inc

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:33 am
by Peter Brown
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:28 am Another bad cop:

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/ ... 73921?s=21



Libs think that awful cop should’ve precision-aimed for the dudes kneecap. Cause that’s easy. A ten year old could’ve winged the guy who obviously wanted to serve dinner what with the knives and all.

Let’s be sure to loot Walmart of diapers.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:08 am
by PizzaSnake
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:33 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:28 am Another bad cop:

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/ ... 73921?s=21



Libs think that awful cop should’ve precision-aimed for the dudes kneecap. Cause that’s easy. A ten year old could’ve winged the guy who obviously wanted to serve dinner what with the knives and all.

Let’s be sure to loot Walmart of diapers.
Wow, a diaper fetish Meggsy?!?!

Weird even for you.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:32 am
by cradleandshoot
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Come on Pete. The damn paramedics showed up and told Chauvin the man had no pulse and to get off of him. Chauvin kept his knee on the neck of an unresponsive dead man for like 3 more minutes. If the dumb cluck had got off of his neck when the paramedics advised him to he might have had a chance of being aquitted.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:41 am
by jhu72

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:55 am
by cradleandshoot
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:41 am America today.
Something hinky here doc. The woman goes from wanting to pay for their meal to tossing around eff bombs and racial slurs. Something does not seem right. I'm guessing the woman has some mental issues.

Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:03 am
by PizzaSnake
SCLaxAttack wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:48 am
foreverlax wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:44 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am Such a great article. Worth reading if you care about justice.

A fair trial might have come to the same conclusion. But we'll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America's left purposefully made a fair trial impossible.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/21/th ... n-verdict/

“....You can’t tell me all of this didn’t affect jurors’ psyche and ultimate decision. They would be superhuman or inhuman if it didn’t. Yet those endorsing mob culture and vigilante “justice” for political ends are working hard to make it impossible to express such reasonable doubts, whether in a column or as a member of a murder jury.

Jurors are always human. There is always room for miscalculation, fear, and error. In this case, however, it is extremely clear that these human weaknesses were deliberately amplified to catastrophic proportions, all because of politics.

A fair trial might indeed have come to the same conclusion for Chauvin. But we’ll never know, and never be able to trust this outcome, because America’s left purposefully made a fair trial impossible, all for political power.

They deliberately perverted justice in favor of violent mob rule to strengthen their political hand. They have done evil and called it justice. They have sown the wind, and the resulting whirlwind has still not fully hit our nation yet. But it will.”
Slurp it up!!
As Warner would say, “Let’s go to the videotape!”
George Michael’s Sports Machine

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zdqn7e03tnA