Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[Peter Brown]

"If we are in fact systemically racist, how did the system convict a white policeman? The system worked."

Newt is as much of a racist d-bag troll as you are Petey.

Floyd, basically, was lynched. In broad daylight. For 9.5 minutes. For 3 minutes after Floyd stopped breathing. With literally zero explanation or rationale for the cop's behavior. In front of a crowd of eyewitnesses. And while being video-taped by multiple cameras. On a 1-10 scale of murder case slam-dunkedness, Floyd's case is an 11.

So what does that tell us?

1. Chauvin presumably only did this believing that he could get away with it.

2. In fact, Chauvin did get away with it before! DOJ is now looking into the excluded evidence (including body cam video!) of a 2017 incident where Chauvin choked a kid to unconsciousness, then "Floyd-ed" him (face down on floor, handcuffs behind back, knee restraint) for 9 minutes (neck) and then 8 minutes (back). Luckily, kid did not die. Video never released. Zero action taken against Chauvin. Only coming to light now -- four forking years later.

3. Even turned up to 11, many people were (reasonably) quite surprised/relieved that Chauvin was convicted. Because it hardly ever happens. Even with mountains of evidence.

4. We all know that absent eye witness video tape (a fairly recent phenomenon), Chauvin totally walks. I mean he walked in 2017 WITH video! No way he gets convicted just on the basis of a dozen eyewitnesses.

5. Look at the MPD read out of the incident -- medical distress.... Without the cell phone video going viral, the cover-up and fix were in and would have worked.

So...respectfully...STFU and please go away. Your racist troll-ness are not welcome here. Shouldn't be welcome anywhere else either.

Do you ever post about any murder in any city at any time other than the much rarer occasion when a cop is involved? I mean, there sure are a ton of opportunities to weigh in about horrific murders, committed by horrific humans.

Point me to any post of yours EVER which evidences such concern about any murder other than when you feel the ego need to spread your plumage to virtue signal to other like-minded dummies. Thx.

[Farfromgeneva]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

Probably because you were the only state in the NE actively bragging about having radar detectors on your dashboards well into the 2000s

[Farfromgeneva]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

... actually I have to go with C&S on this one. Are there any left hand turns in NJ??

Only at 6am when your sneaking away from the trash you picked up at the broke down bar with puke on the floors in Seaside Heights last Friday night. Those circumstances make all left turns legal until 1mi away from the scene of the crime.

[cradleandshoot]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

Probably because you were the only state in the NE actively bragging about having radar detectors on your dashboards well into the 2000s

Not me... Never owned a radar detector. False security is all they are.

[Farfromgeneva]

Meant for Bill. All the NJ people I know had them through the 90s

[cradleandshoot]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

... actually I have to go with C&S on this one. Are there any left hand turns in NJ??

Only at 6am when your sneaking away from the trash you picked up at the broke down bar with puke on the floors in Seaside Heights last Friday night. Those circumstances make all left turns legal until 1mi away from the scene of the crime.

Sounds like their are some personal experience rolled into that perspective.

[cradleandshoot]

Meant for Bill. All the NJ people I know had them through the 90s

NJ is a legal beagles. He would never cheat the system. I believe radar detectors are illegal in every state. I know NJ would never play fast and loose with the law.

[Farfromgeneva]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

... actually I have to go with C&S on this one. Are there any left hand turns in NJ??

Only at 6am when your sneaking away from the trash you picked up at the broke down bar with puke on the floors in Seaside Heights last Friday night. Those circumstances make all left turns legal until 1mi away from the scene of the crime.

Sounds like their are some personal experience rolled into that perspective.

Maybe it was Belmar instead of seaside to protect innocent parties.

There was one time in college we packed into a hotel, had some girls back, real degenerate stuff,myself w one on one bed and my buddy on the other bed with another girl like it was a orgy hostel. Then our other friend had one he was doing whatever with in the bathroom and, like a typical 21yr old, left the door partially open. Next thing we all hear in the other room was the girl yelling “more fingers” which made me and my friend have to pause our own activities for a moment to contemplate what we just heard. We were all well over .2 BAC I would have to assume. I drank two 40s before even going to the bar plus we played a game of a-hole in the hotel room and shots.

They all had the “door knocker” hoop earrings of course too. Lower back tats (and pretty hot but I suspect they age faster than a gremlin fed after midnight)

[njbill]

Never owned a radar detector though there were periods when I could have used one.

Used to know where they were legal and illegal, but haven't kept up with that.

[Farfromgeneva]

Meant for Bill. All the NJ people I know had them through the 90s

NJ is a legal beagles. He would never cheat the system. I believe radar detectors are illegal in every state. I know NJ would never play fast and loose with the law.

The $5 billion development has received hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer incentives and promised millions of dollars in payments in coming years to East Rutherford, which has been watching the site’s progress for what has felt like an eternity.

“We thought the Xanadu project would be open by 2007,” said James Cassella, the former mayor of East Rutherford who retired in 2019 after more than 20 years in the role. Even after Triple Five entered the picture, he said, “there were more opening dates on this than you could imagine.”

There’s like a billion dollars of missing money from this project that was started before 9/11...just defaulted again under the family who owns the Mall of America. Recall being out there in the late 2000s and guys were talking about a billion dollars missing in the swampland.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

My NYS plates got me pulled over and ticketed several times when I was stationed at Ft Bragg. Guilty of driving while being a Yankee from NYS was the only charge I could understand. I suppose the charges would have been doubled or tripled if I had been a black driver with NYS plates.

What was the charge?

Driving under the influence of being a Yankee. Serious chit around Fayetteville in the very early 80's. Funny but when I got rid of those NYS plates the local cops didn't mess with me anymore.

were you ticketed? I wasn't. I was wondering what was your infraction.

[old salt]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

He was equipped with a secret jerk detector.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

He was equipped with a secret jerk detector.

Maybe it was the secret uppity detector....

[MDlaxfan76]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

My NYS plates got me pulled over and ticketed several times when I was stationed at Ft Bragg. Guilty of driving while being a Yankee from NYS was the only charge I could understand. I suppose the charges would have been doubled or tripled if I had been a black driver with NYS plates.

What was the charge?

Driving under the influence of being a Yankee. Serious chit around Fayetteville in the very early 80's. Funny but when I got rid of those NYS plates the local cops didn't mess with me anymore.

Yup.

[lagerhead]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

... actually I have to go with C&S on this one. Are there any left hand turns in NJ??

Only at 6am when your sneaking away from the trash you picked up at the broke down bar with puke on the floors in Seaside Heights last Friday night. Those circumstances make all left turns legal until 1mi away from the scene of the crime.

Sounds like their are some personal experience rolled into that perspective.

Maybe it was Belmar instead of seaside to protect innocent parties.

There was one time in college we packed into a hotel, had some girls back, real degenerate stuff,myself w one on one bed and my buddy on the other bed with another girl like it was a orgy hostel. Then our other friend had one he was doing whatever with in the bathroom and, like a typical 21yr old, left the door partially open. Next thing we all hear in the other room was the girl yelling “more fingers” which made me and my friend have to pause our own activities for a moment to contemplate what we just heard. We were all well over .2 BAC I would have to assume. I drank two 40s before even going to the bar plus we played a game of a-hole in the hotel room and shots.

They all had the “door knocker” hoop earrings of course too. Lower back tats (and pretty hot but I suspect they age faster than a gremlin fed after midnight)

You must have been at Bar A

[cradleandshoot]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

Well we do try to limit you mischief makers from Jersey.

[Farfromgeneva]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

... actually I have to go with C&S on this one. Are there any left hand turns in NJ??

Only at 6am when your sneaking away from the trash you picked up at the broke down bar with puke on the floors in Seaside Heights last Friday night. Those circumstances make all left turns legal until 1mi away from the scene of the crime.

Sounds like their are some personal experience rolled into that perspective.

Maybe it was Belmar instead of seaside to protect innocent parties.

There was one time in college we packed into a hotel, had some girls back, real degenerate stuff,myself w one on one bed and my buddy on the other bed with another girl like it was a orgy hostel. Then our other friend had one he was doing whatever with in the bathroom and, like a typical 21yr old, left the door partially open. Next thing we all hear in the other room was the girl yelling “more fingers” which made me and my friend have to pause our own activities for a moment to contemplate what we just heard. We were all well over .2 BAC I would have to assume. I drank two 40s before even going to the bar plus we played a game of a-hole in the hotel room and shots.

They all had the “door knocker” hoop earrings of course too. Lower back tats (and pretty hot but I suspect they age faster than a gremlin fed after midnight)

You must have been at Bar A

That specific I can’t recall for that night but place sounds familiar. I only know the Jersey Shore mainly from the prism of a mid 20s guy in Manhattan with a few bucks to spare for occasional weekends particularly in the summers. Wasn’t a Jitney guy and CT options were pretty far so other than Sheepshead Bay, Jones Beach that was the choice. Lot of dirty fun but it all would seem pretty rancid to me now. I’ve come back a little for business (OceanFirst Bank/OCFC, HQd in Toms River but up and down the coast having acquired a Red Bank based bank and a south Jersey Shore bank, CEO is a terrific guy and he runs a nice community/regional bank for what it’s worth) and maybe that area has changed since the first half of the 2000s but that couple of town stretch was naaaasty (including the Boss’ hometown). Long before MTV got the bright idea to put some of its finest participants on wax via the Jersey Shore.

And a couple of us may have tossed a whole lot of “more fingers” comments around at our mutual friend’s wedding a handful of years back...

[lagerhead]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

... actually I have to go with C&S on this one. Are there any left hand turns in NJ??

Only at 6am when your sneaking away from the trash you picked up at the broke down bar with puke on the floors in Seaside Heights last Friday night. Those circumstances make all left turns legal until 1mi away from the scene of the crime.

Sounds like their are some personal experience rolled into that perspective.

Maybe it was Belmar instead of seaside to protect innocent parties.

There was one time in college we packed into a hotel, had some girls back, real degenerate stuff,myself w one on one bed and my buddy on the other bed with another girl like it was a orgy hostel. Then our other friend had one he was doing whatever with in the bathroom and, like a typical 21yr old, left the door partially open. Next thing we all hear in the other room was the girl yelling “more fingers” which made me and my friend have to pause our own activities for a moment to contemplate what we just heard. We were all well over .2 BAC I would have to assume. I drank two 40s before even going to the bar plus we played a game of a-hole in the hotel room and shots.

They all had the “door knocker” hoop earrings of course too. Lower back tats (and pretty hot but I suspect they age faster than a gremlin fed after midnight)

You must have been at Bar A

That specific I can’t recall for that night but place sounds familiar. I only know the Jersey Shore mainly from the prism of a mid 20s guy in Manhattan with a few bucks to spare for occasional weekends particularly in the summers. Wasn’t a Jitney guy and CT options were pretty far so other than Sheepshead Bay, Jones Beach that was the choice. Lot of dirty fun but it all would seem pretty rancid to me now. I’ve come back a little for business (OceanFirst Bank/OCFC, HQd in Toms River but up and down the coast having acquired a Red Bank based bank and a south Jersey Shore bank, CEO is a terrific guy and he runs a nice community/regional bank for what it’s worth) and maybe that area has changed since the first half of the 2000s but that couple of town stretch was naaaasty (including the Boss’ hometown). Long before MTV got the bright idea to put some of its finest participants on wax via the Jersey Shore.

And a couple of us may have tossed a whole lot of “more fingers” comments around at our mutual friend’s wedding a handful of years back...

A few towns south you would have been in the Irish Riviera spring Lake and Sea Girt. Still a small beach town feel but big money nowadays. Old bars are still mostly there, Parker House being most notable, my kids are fourth generation going there. Lots of lax players there after “war at the shore” summer fest.

[cradleandshoot]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

My NYS plates got me pulled over and ticketed several times when I was stationed at Ft Bragg. Guilty of driving while being a Yankee from NYS was the only charge I could understand. I suppose the charges would have been doubled or tripled if I had been a black driver with NYS plates.

What was the charge?

Driving under the influence of being a Yankee. Serious chit around Fayetteville in the very early 80's. Funny but when I got rid of those NYS plates the local cops didn't mess with me anymore.

were you ticketed? I wasn't. I was wondering what was your infraction.

That was a long time ago. I believe the officer ticketed me for reckless driving. I did not have the slightest idea what he was talking about. The officers attitude made it very clear he was not interested in explaining to me what I did that was reckless.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

My NYS plates got me pulled over and ticketed several times when I was stationed at Ft Bragg. Guilty of driving while being a Yankee from NYS was the only charge I could understand. I suppose the charges would have been doubled or tripled if I had been a black driver with NYS plates.

What was the charge?

Driving under the influence of being a Yankee. Serious chit around Fayetteville in the very early 80's. Funny but when I got rid of those NYS plates the local cops didn't mess with me anymore.

were you ticketed? I wasn't. I was wondering what was your infraction.

That was a long time ago. I believe the officer ticketed me for reckless driving. I did not have the slightest idea what he was talking about. The officers attitude made it very clear he was not interested in explaining to me what I did that was reckless.

Ok. Thanks