Don Jr, Ivanka & Eric Trump Corruption - Important and Meaningful Issue

[PizzaSnake]

So where do you stand on PBS Newshour?

BBC has been my go-to of late. Haven't seen PBS in months.

BBC is a little arch for my taste. I prefer The Guardian (print).

Talking heads cannot talk as fast as I can read. Waste of my time.

[cradleandshoot]

Come on a Fan, enough with this Bravo Sierra your piling high. The 3 networks I have watched intermittently for the last year are ABC, CBS and NBC. Those are the networks my external antenna pulls in. They spout the same chit in favor of the Democrats.

No, they spout the same nonsense as the 1%ers.....and that's who the Corporate Dems serve.

That is why I don't watch network news at all. You really need to stop castigating one network. They are all guilty of playing the same game of favoritism. I sometimes watch the BBC news on our local PBS station. At least the Brits are fair enough to stick it to both major political parties. Take of your blinders my friend, it ain't just Fox trying to influence how America thinks.

I literally just ripped on Maddow and MSNBC....and told you that the ACTUAL American left is on to their BS. The actual left knows Biden is full of it, and isn't REALLY going to help the American working class.

The Dems aren't the same thing as Liberals. I think that's where we are getting our wires crossed. The MSM serves the 1%...and they do that by staking out a moderate position....but more importantly, they serve the 1%ers who own them.

That is why I don't watch mainstream media news. I have not watched the chit show from all the major networks since we dumped cable a year ago. The rare occasions I do usually are in the 7 am time frame and the partisanship shown is sickening. That is why I find myself watching Bob Ross paint landscapes on PBS Create and then sometimes watch cooking shows. I literally can't stand watching the news. I am sooooo chomping at the bit to get out into the garden. Gardening is psychotherapy for living in a deranged world. An afternoon spent weeding the garden puts me in the correct frame of mind.

Fair enough. Most speakers have an agenda and you should keep a tight grip in n your wallet at all times.

Unfortunately, unless you are omniscient, you need to gather information somewhere.

So, if mainstream media is corrupt and ethically bankrupt, how do you do inform yourself?

I recommend education and critical thinking. Above all else, the dictum “quit bono” is helpful in steering clear of manipulation. Armed with these tools, almost any source can reveal some truth.

Of course, this requires discipline and effort, so is often eschewed by the indolent.

Our public tv station has some pretty decent news programs. BBC has a report on the USA news every day that I try to watch. My little phone also covers breaking news updated constantly

[Kismet]

Ted Cruz at CPAC today confirms a fan's point about politicians and who they cater to in the end

"Orlando is awesome. It's not as nice as Cancun."

It's not about his voters. It's about his donors (who are all in attendance there). Which is why he thinks he can get away with saying it out loud and in public.

Also contributing - He is, after all, a big D*CK of a person, too.

[cradleandshoot]

Ted Cruz at CPAC today confirms a fan's point about politicians and who they cater to in the end

"Orlando is awesome. It's not as nice as Cancun."

It's not about his voters. It's about his donors (who are all in attendance there). Which is why he thinks he can get away with saying it out loud and in public.

Also contributing - He is, after all, a big D*CK of a person, too.

Having been to both Cancun and Orlando I agree with Ted. Unless you were born with Micky Mouse ears, Cancun is waaaaaay better. It ain't even close. The Tequila at Disney World is way lame.

[youthathletics]

Ted Cruz at CPAC today confirms a fan's point about politicians and who they cater to in the end

"Orlando is awesome. It's not as nice as Cancun."

It's not about his voters. It's about his donors (who are all in attendance there). Which is why he thinks he can get away with saying it out loud and in public.

Also contributing - He is, after all, a big D*CK of a person, too.

Having been to both Cancun and Orlando I agree with Ted. Unless you were born with Micky Mouse ears, Cancun is waaaaaay better. It ain't even close. The Tequila at Disney World is way lame.

Wrong....Kismet said so.

[cradleandshoot]

Ted Cruz at CPAC today confirms a fan's point about politicians and who they cater to in the end

"Orlando is awesome. It's not as nice as Cancun."

It's not about his voters. It's about his donors (who are all in attendance there). Which is why he thinks he can get away with saying it out loud and in public.

Also contributing - He is, after all, a big D*CK of a person, too.

Having been to both Cancun and Orlando I agree with Ted. Unless you were born with Micky Mouse ears, Cancun is waaaaaay better. It ain't even close. The Tequila at Disney World is way lame.

Wrong....Kismet said so.

No way, the tequila in Cancun told me different. You could say a little worm told me.

[Kismet]

Ted Cruz at CPAC today confirms a fan's point about politicians and who they cater to in the end

"Orlando is awesome. It's not as nice as Cancun."

It's not about his voters. It's about his donors (who are all in attendance there). Which is why he thinks he can get away with saying it out loud and in public.

Also contributing - He is, after all, a big D*CK of a person, too.

Having been to both Cancun and Orlando I agree with Ted. Unless you were born with Micky Mouse ears, Cancun is waaaaaay better. It ain't even close. The Tequila at Disney World is way lame.

Wrong....Kismet said so.

No way, the tequila in Cancun told me different. You could say a little worm told me.

That's Mescal not Tequila, gringo.

[old salt]

...then ask what prompted 47% of voters to watch FNC & do what they were told.

Simple. They think that FoxMedia is selling conservatism, and these viewers don't bother to put the work in to realize that, nope, that's not what they're doing. And Nope, Trump isn't ACTUALLY doing what he and FoxNation are telling them that Trump is doing.

That's the difference between the American left and the American right, my friend.

The American Right hasn't caught on to FoxNation's BS and lies. They're all in. Every chip.


The American left can't stand CNN, MSNBC, Maddow, and are already freaking out over Biden going back on campaign promises. They know that Biden is in the pocket of the 1%.

Guns, abortions, evangelicals, judicial appointments, energy independence, cheap gas, oil exploration, grazing rights, pipelines, immigration, gender confused sports & bathrooms, teacher's unions, charter schools, overweening PC, endless wars for s-hole countries, sticking it to the msm & political elites, just to name a few.

Yeah. You know what appeals to Trump's voters.

[a fan]

Guns, abortions, evangelicals, judicial appointments, energy independence, cheap gas, oil exploration, grazing rights, pipelines, immigration, gender confused sports & bathrooms, teacher's unions, charter schools, overweening PC, endless wars for s-hole countries, sticking it to the msm & political elites, just to name a few.

Yeah. You know what appeals to Trump's voters.

I didn't say a word about APPEALING to Trump's voters.

What I wrote was that I know what actually AFFECTS Trump voters.

[old salt]

Guns, abortions, evangelicals, judicial appointments, energy independence, cheap gas, oil exploration, grazing rights, pipelines, immigration, gender confused sports & bathrooms, teacher's unions, charter schools, overweening PC, endless wars for s-hole countries, sticking it to the msm & political elites, just to name a few.

Yeah. You know what appeals to Trump's voters.

I didn't say a word about APPEALING to Trump's voters.

What I wrote was that I know what actually AFFECTS Trump voters.

It's hard to decipher what you're saying in the midst of your Fox nation rants.
Maybe Trump voters would be with you & Bernie & AOC if they thought they could trust them to act in their best interests,
or perhaps they know where those 2 stand on the issues I listed.

[a fan]

Guns, abortions, evangelicals, judicial appointments, energy independence, cheap gas, oil exploration, grazing rights, pipelines, immigration, gender confused sports & bathrooms, teacher's unions, charter schools, overweening PC, endless wars for s-hole countries, sticking it to the msm & political elites, just to name a few.

Yeah. You know what appeals to Trump's voters.

I didn't say a word about APPEALING to Trump's voters.

What I wrote was that I know what actually AFFECTS Trump voters.

It's hard to decipher what you're saying in the midst of your Fox nation rants.
Maybe Trump voters would be with you & Bernie & AOC if they thought they could trust them to act in their best interests,
or perhaps they know where those 2 stand on the issues I listed.

And it's hard to decipher what your'e saying, because you can't keep your nonsense reasons for why TrumpVoters voted for Trump.

At least now you're finally being honest. Yep, you're right: TrumpVoters chose Trump over someone who is actually going to help them in Bernie, because they thought Trump would "fix" all the cultural change they see happening around them. Same reason folks vote for R's in the first place.



Tell you what, though: let's bookmark this discussion, and see how TrumpNation is doing after four more years of the 1%ers calling the shots.

Who do you think will be better off after four years of Biden: TrumpVoters? Or the liberal Coastal Elite? Boy. That's a tough call.

But sure, keep right on voting for Presidents that you think can do things like keep gay Americans from being gay. Knock yourselves out.

[old salt]

Guns, abortions, evangelicals, judicial appointments, energy independence, cheap gas, oil exploration, grazing rights, pipelines, immigration, gender confused sports & bathrooms, teacher's unions, charter schools, overweening PC, endless wars for s-hole countries, sticking it to the msm & political elites, just to name a few.

Yeah. You know what appeals to Trump's voters.

I didn't say a word about APPEALING to Trump's voters.

What I wrote was that I know what actually AFFECTS Trump voters.

It's hard to decipher what you're saying in the midst of your Fox nation rants.
Maybe Trump voters would be with you & Bernie & AOC if they thought they could trust them to act in their best interests,
or perhaps they know where those 2 stand on the issues I listed.

And it's hard to decipher what your'e saying, because you can't keep your nonsense reasons for why TrumpVoters voted for Trump.

At least now you're finally being honest. Yep, you're right: TrumpVoters chose Trump over someone who is actually going to help them in Bernie, because they thought Trump would "fix" all the cultural change they see happening around them. Same reason folks vote for R's in the first place.

Tell you what, though: let's bookmark this discussion, and see how TrumpNation is doing after four more years of the 1%ers calling the shots.

Who do you think will be better off after four years of Biden: TrumpVoters? Or the liberal Coastal Elite? Boy. That's a tough call.

But sure, keep right on voting for Presidents that you think can do things like keep gay Americans from being gay. Knock yourselves out.

...your version of helping them. You're like the Boy Scout helping the little old lady across a street she doesn't want to cross.

Finally being honest. I've been saying the same thing for the last 5 years.

You offer a false challenge. Things won't change for the better under Biden. They'd be worse under Bernie, Warren or AOC. Energy costs will increase, illegal immigrant workers will hold down wages, ag subsidies will continue as always & your rant won't change. You'll still deny it's socialism even when it becomes Marxism.

[a fan]

...your version of helping them.

And what's YOUR version of helping them, OS? Let's hear it. Best of luck coming up with something that isn't simply repackaged liberal ideas from guys like Bernie.

Finally being honest. I've been saying the same thing for the last 5 years.

The firetruck you have. You told us before----and in the months after----that Trump was elected by the "Forgotten voter" because he talked to them about jobs and opportunity, and Hillary didn't.

You offer a false challenge. Things won't change for the better under Biden.

When the F did I say they would? I've been telling both you and the rest of the fake conservatives on the board that Biden is to the right of Trump, and will serve the 1%.

You keep missing what I'm telling you, because you don't want to admit that the Conservative party that you grew up with is gone. It's has left the building. There isn't a "choice" in the Republican party because all they are offering now is "stick it to the libs". Did you see any part of the CPAC deal? Geez, man. You'd think you were watching Student Council for grammar school.

Your party doesn't know what to do to help the working class. So what do they do instead? Talk about Mr. Potato head and bathrooms, and tell them that the American liberal is their enemy.

They'd be worse under Bernie, Warren or AOC.

If your party keeps playing this stupid, petty, juvenile game of "government is bad, therefore we're not going to legislate anymore"? Maybe.

But if you stopped playing this stupid game of "the libs are the enemy" for five freaking minutes, your party could work with Bernie, Warren, and AOC to come up with middle of the road solutions that actually help Americans.

But that requires turning the tin foil hats in, and pulling up a seat at the big boy table, and actually governing for a change.

And it ain't gonna happen. So sure, the libs are bad. Best of luck to TrumpForgottenVoters. Maybe someone will help you after the next election,

You'll still deny it's socialism even when it becomes Marxism.

That's the Republican party in the nutshell: socialism for me, and free market for the rest of us, right?

Or have you forgotten where you were educated?

[old salt]

...your version of helping them.

And what's YOUR version of helping them, OS? Let's hear it. Best of luck coming up with something that isn't simply repackaged liberal ideas from guys like Bernie.I'm not all knowing, like you. I'm telling you what appeals to the 73 million Trump voters who obviuosly are not as smart as you.

Finally being honest. I've been saying the same thing for the last 5 years.

The firetruck you have. You told us before----and in the months after----that Trump was elected by the "Forgotten voter" because he talked to them about jobs and opportunity, and Hillary didn't.That was part of it too. Do you deny that Trump campaigned on all the issues I listed.

You offer a false challenge. Things won't change for the better under Biden.

When the F did I say they would? I've been telling both you and the rest of the fake conservatives on the board that Biden is to the right of Trump, and will serve the 1%.

You keep missing what I'm telling you, because you don't want to admit that the Conservative party that you grew up with is gone. It's has left the building. There isn't a "choice" in the Republican party because all they are offering now is "stick it to the libs". Did you see any part of the CPAC deal? Geez, man. You'd think you were watching Student Council for grammar school.

Your party doesn't know what to do to help the working class. So what do they do instead? Talk about Mr. Potato head and bathrooms, and tell them that the American liberal is their enemy.
I'm not missing it. I'm just sick of you trolling my every post with your same nonsensical rants, over & over, knowing it changes nothing. You're like a dog howling at the moon.

They'd be worse under Bernie, Warren or AOC.

If your party keeps playing this stupid, petty, juvenile game of "government is bad, therefore we're not going to legislate anymore"? Maybe.

But if you stopped playing this stupid game of "the libs are the enemy" for five freaking minutes, your party could work with Bernie, Warren, and AOC to come up with middle of the road solutions that actually help Americans.

But that requires turning the tin foil hats in, and pulling up a seat at the big boy table, and actually governing for a change.

And it ain't gonna happen. So sure, the libs are bad. Best of luck to TrumpForgottenVoters. Maybe someone will help you after the next election,
Right. The (R)'s are the only ones playing stupid games. Which is the bigger issue - LGBT sports & transgender grade schoolers or the threat of domestic terrorism on social media ?

You'll still deny it's socialism even when it becomes Marxism.

That's the Republican party in the nutshell: socialism for me, and free market for the rest of us, right?

Or have you forgotten where you were educated?
Have you forgotten that it was paid back with services rendered, hazardous duty & forfeiture of rights & freedoms ?

[a fan]

...your version of helping them.

And what's YOUR version of helping them, OS? Let's hear it. Best of luck coming up with something that isn't simply repackaged liberal ideas from guys like Bernie.I'm not all knowing, like you.

The F you aren't. For heaven's sake, you just gave a HUGE answer below.

You'll still deny it's socialism even when it becomes Marxism.

That's the Republican party in the nutshell: socialism for me, and free market for the rest of us, right?

Or have you forgotten where you were educated?

Have you forgotten that it was paid back with services rendered, hazardous duty & forfeiture of rights & freedoms ?

That doesn't mean it's not socialism, my man. That's still .gov educating you. That's socialism. You could have attended a private school. You didn't.


But to my above point----that's the solution for helping working class Americans. It's still big government, and it's still socialism But so what?

Pay for anyone's education at a State JUCO, College, University, or State-run training center.

And in exchange? Four years of public/community/military service.

Boom. Done. And think of what we could do for America with that many man-hours of community/public/military service?

[old salt]

Right Comrade. Everyone serves for the State.

[a fan]

Right Comrade. Everyone serves for the State.

This is great. You're worried about Bernie's socialism, but you're trying to tell me you don't know what the word means?

Who paid the salaries of your professors? Jeff Bezos?

The .gov, my man. Socialism.

[Typical Lax Dad]

...your version of helping them.

And what's YOUR version of helping them, OS? Let's hear it. Best of luck coming up with something that isn't simply repackaged liberal ideas from guys like Bernie.I'm not all knowing, like you.

The F you aren't. For heaven's sake, you just gave a HUGE answer below.

You'll still deny it's socialism even when it becomes Marxism.

That's the Republican party in the nutshell: socialism for me, and free market for the rest of us, right?

Or have you forgotten where you were educated?

Have you forgotten that it was paid back with services rendered, hazardous duty & forfeiture of rights & freedoms ?

That doesn't mean it's not socialism, my man. That's still .gov educating you. That's socialism. You could have attended a private school. You didn't.


But to my above point----that's the solution for helping working class Americans. It's still big government, and it's still socialism But so what?

Pay for anyone's education at a State JUCO, College, University, or State-run training center.

And in exchange? Four years of public/community/military service.

Boom. Done. And think of what we could do for America with that many man-hours of community/public/military service?

I am in full support of something like this. We would get a good ROI in this country. The money we would take out of the legal/prison system would pay for it and we would collect taxes for 45 years on top of it.

[a fan]

I am in full support of something like this. We would get a good ROI in this country. The money we would take out of the legal/prison system would pay for it and we would collect taxes for 45 years on top of it.

It would be a, to borrow a certain poster's famous phrase----a transformational event in American history.

Want education/training? Great. In exchange, you have to muck in and make your country better.

THIS is what modern American conservative thought should look like.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I am in full support of something like this. We would get a good ROI in this country. The money we would take out of the legal/prison system would pay for it and we would collect taxes for 45 years on top of it.

It would be a, to borrow a certain poster's famous phrase----a transformational event in American history.

Want education/training? Great. In exchange, you have to muck in and make your country better.

THIS is what modern American conservative thought should look like.

It’s a win/win. Since 1970, Prison population is up 7000% and despite having 5% of the world’s population, we have 25% of its prisoners. I wonder what preceded 1970?