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Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:43 am
by runrussellrun
Brooklyn wrote:Why so many people world wide ''REJECT ISRAEL LOBBY’S INFLUENCE OVER CONGRESS ..."


What's your solution?

And who is lobbying whom? Looks like M16's slung over the soldiers shoulders. We still "give" them humvees, made in near you. War is profit. Thank goodness the good folks of Hawaii don't thro rocks at us occupiers. Same for Alaska.......invaded and solidified around the same time, eh.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:32 pm
by kramerica.inc
Tlaib starts new term with more questionable language. This time invoking the oft anti-semitic "dual loyalty" phrase:

https://www.jpost.com/American-Politics ... lty-576614

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:41 am
by dislaxxic
There Is a Taboo Against Criticizing AIPAC — and Ilhan Omar Just Destroyed It

"In 2005, Steven Rosen, then a senior official with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC, sat down for dinner with journalist Jeffrey Goldberg, then of the New Yorker. “You see this napkin?” Rosen asked Goldberg. “In twenty-four hours, [AIPAC] could have the signatures of seventy senators on this napkin.”

I couldn’t help but be reminded of this anecdote after Rep. Ilhan Omar, of Minnesota’s 5th congressional district, was slammed by Democrats and Republicans alike over her suggestion, in a pair of tweets, that U.S. politicians back the state of Israel because of financial pressure from AIPAC (“It’s all about the Benjamins baby,” she declaimed). Was the flippant way in which she phrased her tweets a problem? Did it offend a significant chunk of liberal U.S. Jewish opinion? Did it perhaps unwittingly play into anti-Semitic tropes about rich Jews controlling the world? Yes, yes, and yes — as she herself has since admitted and “unequivocally” apologized for. But was she wrong to note the power of the pro-Israel lobby, to point a finger at AIPAC, to highlight — in her apology — “the problematic role of lobbyists in our politics, whether it be AIPAC, the NRA or the fossil fuel industry”?

No, no, and no."


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Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:15 am
by seriously?
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... on-mission

OK, so we give Israel billions, they starve the Palestinians but we should celebrate they are going to the moon? Private money...yeah

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:07 pm
by dislaxxic

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:46 pm
by foreverlax
seriously? wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:15 am https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... on-mission

OK, so we give Israel billions, they starve the Palestinians but we should celebrate they are going to the moon? Private money...yeah
Let's not forget, Israel allows abortions...pretty much free of charge.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:31 pm
by jhu72
foreverlax wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:46 pm
seriously? wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:15 am https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... on-mission

OK, so we give Israel billions, they starve the Palestinians but we should celebrate they are going to the moon? Private money...yeah
Let's not forget, Israel allows abortions...pretty much free of charge.
... Isreal, a baby killer's paradise! How do the evangelical nuts square that circle? :lol: Don't care what Isreal does as long as it is around for the end times.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:07 am
by 6ftstick
jhu72 wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:31 pm
foreverlax wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:46 pm
seriously? wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:15 am https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... on-mission

OK, so we give Israel billions, they starve the Palestinians but we should celebrate they are going to the moon? Private money...yeah
Let's not forget, Israel allows abortions...pretty much free of charge.
... Isreal, a baby killer's paradise! How do the evangelical nuts square that circle? :lol: Don't care what Isreal does as long as it is around for the end times.
And we execute living breathing babies outside the woman womb. All but three democrats in the senate voted to make sure it continues. Square that circle.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:31 am
by jhu72
I certainly hope so! You ever had baby back ribs? Good eaten.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:38 pm
by holmes435
6ftstick wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:07 am And we execute living breathing babies outside the woman womb. All but three democrats in the senate voted to make sure it continues. Square that circle.
That's a flat out lie. Let's just call it what it is. A lie. Factually incorrect. Willfully incorrect. Untrue. Unfounded in reality. Head in the sand. Sad.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:04 pm
by 6ftstick
holmes435 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:38 pm
6ftstick wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:07 am And we execute living breathing babies outside the woman womb. All but three democrats in the senate voted to make sure it continues. Square that circle.
That's a flat out lie. Let's just call it what it is. A lie. Factually incorrect. Willfully incorrect. Untrue. Unfounded in reality. Head in the sand. Sad.
You did here the governor of Virginia describe how it happens. Cause it happens.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:10 pm
by holmes435
6ftstick wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:04 pm
holmes435 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:38 pm
6ftstick wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:07 am And we execute living breathing babies outside the woman womb. All but three democrats in the senate voted to make sure it continues. Square that circle.
That's a flat out lie. Let's just call it what it is. A lie. Factually incorrect. Willfully incorrect. Untrue. Unfounded in reality. Head in the sand. Sad.
You did here the governor of Virginia describe how it happens. Cause it happens.
Do you have any proof? I never heard the governor of Virginia describing anything about executions. He was talking about making a DNR call, which is one of the hardest things to do as a parent after taking relevant medical advice. But comprehending that exchange is hard for a good chunk of people.

You're making extraordinary claims. You need to provide proof to be believed.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:13 pm
by Brooklyn
foreverlax wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:46 pm

Let's not forget, Israel allows abortions...pretty much free of charge.

Since that government operates because of our generous tax dollar handouts, ultimately it's you who pays for all that.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:19 am
by jhu72
Lost in the North Korea news was the announced indictment of Benji N on corruption charges. Heard it last night at the same time NK deal fell apart (morning in Israel). News orgs are starting to take notice now.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:28 am
by dislaxxic

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:09 pm
by seacoaster
Bibi in the Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ne ... ccdac02424

"Israel’s attorney general recommended Thursday that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu be indicted for fraud, bribery and breach of trust, casting uncertainty over his political future just weeks before he faces reelection.

Attorney General Avichai Mandelblit outlined the case against the prime minister in a 57-page letter sent to Netanyahu’s lawyers.

Netanyahu, who has strongly denied the allegations against him, now has the opportunity to present his defense at a hearing before Mandelblit makes a final decision on whether to file an indictment. But the recommendation indicates that Israel’s top legal authority believes there is enough evidence to proceed with a trial.

The letter said Netanyahu should be charged with fraud and breach of trust in connection with Case 1000, which centers around allegations that he and his wife, Sara, received gifts of cigars and jewelry worth around $280,000 in exchange for political favors. The billionaire benefactors allegedly included Israeli-born Hollywood producer Arnon Milchan, whose film credits include “Fight Club” and “Pretty Woman,” and Australian business executive James Packer.

The letter said that between 2011 and 2016 Netanyahu lobbied U.S. officials to issue a visa to Milchan on two occasions and also asked the finance minister at the time, Yair Lapid, to extend income tax exemptions in order to benefit Milchan.

Mandelblit also recommended that the prime minister be charged with fraud and breach of trust in connection with to Case 2000, which centers on a deal he allegedly sought with Arnon Mozes, publisher of the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper and Ynet news website. Under the deal, Netanyahu was to advance legislation to weaken one of Mozes’s competitors in return for favorable coverage."

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:24 pm
by wahoomurf
BIBI GETS A BOO BOO.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:35 pm
by dislaxxic
Israel’s Attorney General Moves Forward with Netanyahu’s Indictment: What Happens Next?

"After years of investigations, Israeli Attorney General Avichai Mandelblit has announced his decision to consider indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with multiple counts of graft. As expected, Netanyahu reacted with fire and fury, calling the investigations a witch hunt. He vowed to continue leading Israel for many years to come—implying that he would not step down if indicted. The attorney general’s announcement is particularly dramatic in light of the upcoming elections in Israel, scheduled for April 9. In this post I outline the meaning and practical implications of the announcement, as well as the consequences of an indictment against the prime minister in the coming months. I explored the latter topic in detail in a previous Lawfare post on the legal framework governing the indictment of a sitting prime minister in Israel."

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Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:54 pm
by jhu72
So Ilhan Omar is being accused of anti-Semitism for saying that U.S. pro-Israel advocates are pushing for “allegiance to a foreign country.” and “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.".

Sorry, but this is not anti-Semitic. The fact that politicians think it is, just makes Omar's point. She makes no statement referencing a race, a culture or an individual. She is criticizing a nation state that arguably deserves some criticism.

Re: Israel and Zionism

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:25 pm
by runrussellrun
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:54 pm So Ilhan Omar is being accused of anti-Semitism for saying that U.S. pro-Israel advocates are pushing for “allegiance to a foreign country.” and “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.".

Sorry, but this is not anti-Semitic. The fact that politicians think it is, just makes Omar's point. She makes no statement referencing a race, a culture or an individual. She is criticizing a nation state that arguably deserves some criticism.
would possibly buy your hunk of junk nonsense......if she threw some criticism towards Palistine and some of their fun clubs. Hamas is good dip.