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Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 1:40 pm
by ICGrad
LeeRoggy wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:03 am BTW, anyone have the ticket sales so far for UConn this year? It had BETTER be more than last year or I don't want to hear ANY excuses from the selfish hotbed crowd.
Lighten up Francis.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 2:35 pm
by wrhuradio
hofstrapride1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:36 pm
MDralphie wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:04 pm Hofstra attendance was terrible for QF especially considering the teams playing. Really sad. I’m heading to Hartford Friday morning and have been to every final since 2011 except 2017 when my Terps won…figures! As the game is spreading I think you need a a area many can reach without the lousy LI traffic. Major airports, hotels need to be close. I cannot remember for sure but I thought there was a huge crowd 2016 in Philly. Thought 2011 was similar Baltimore. Audi field in DC was a great venue for the game but the parking….
How do you consider Yale, Princeton, Penn and Penn ideal teams attendance wise? Yes they are all geographically close to Long Island but it isn't exactly Maryland, Cuse or Hopkins in terms of major fanbases.
5800 would be an acceptable number if the 4 teams attending were Vermont, Robert Morris, Richmond, Denver. 3 Ivy teams + Rutgers there's no excuses. All the Ivy teams have friends/family/alumni players all in the area or living in Manhattan and players natives of Northern NJ and Fairfield County CT, and then the next radius of NJ, eastern PA and New England fills up another large chunk of the participating players hometowns. It's simply WAY too low of a number. As the poster above states, 4400 for the state of Florida HS Final 4 is really spectacular! Wow I'm blown away by that.
Simply put, LI and the NY-Area sports community does not support or show up "minor league" sports at all. The Islanders are barely going to get by, St John's College basketball does just OK.
LI/Hofstra is hosting this year's NY State Lacrosse Championship games June 11th, a quadrupleheader. Figure at least 3 of the 8 teams will be from Long Island, and like 2 more from Westchester. They would be lucky to have a total of 3,000 for the entire day. 4400 in florida for just 4 teams!? Wow.

Other areas are now deserving to get multiple opportunities to host QF, it's overdue. 5K is a small threshold to pass of what Hofstra has done in the last several times theyve hosted. Problem is the NCAA pays for the travel, and Hofstra hosting 95% of the time is just a bus ride for the 4 teams that make it. Move it elsewhere and you're getting into flights, have you seen what the projected future costs of gas/airline fuel are the next couple year's under Bidenflation?

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 4:52 pm
by Gobigred
"Move it elsewhere and you're getting into flights, have you seen what the projected future costs of gas/airline fuel are the next couple year's under Bidenflation?"

Not only unnecessary, but ignorant.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 5:44 pm
by wrhuradio
Gobigred wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 4:52 pm "Move it elsewhere and you're getting into flights, have you seen what the projected future costs of gas/airline fuel are the next couple year's under Bidenflation?"

Not only unnecessary, but ignorant.
Lighten up. Way to get offended.

You get the point. With the rising costs of flights, driving distance/location will be even greater factor towards keeping QF in the usual places that have hosted.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 5:45 pm
by keno in reno
They should try it once in San Diego, Portland or Seattle. They'd need a guaranteed block of reasonable air tickets and hotel rooms for last-week bookings. Could be a nice complement to a Memorial Day vacation instead of a competitor against it.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 6:16 pm
by ICGrad
Gobigred wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 4:52 pm "Move it elsewhere and you're getting into flights, have you seen what the projected future costs of gas/airline fuel are the next couple year's under Bidenflation?"

Not only unnecessary, but ignorant.
Agreed.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 7:43 am
by hofstrapride1
wrhuradio wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 2:35 pm
hofstrapride1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:36 pm
MDralphie wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:04 pm Hofstra attendance was terrible for QF especially considering the teams playing. Really sad. I’m heading to Hartford Friday morning and have been to every final since 2011 except 2017 when my Terps won…figures! As the game is spreading I think you need a a area many can reach without the lousy LI traffic. Major airports, hotels need to be close. I cannot remember for sure but I thought there was a huge crowd 2016 in Philly. Thought 2011 was similar Baltimore. Audi field in DC was a great venue for the game but the parking….
How do you consider Yale, Princeton, Penn and Penn ideal teams attendance wise? Yes they are all geographically close to Long Island but it isn't exactly Maryland, Cuse or Hopkins in terms of major fanbases.
5800 would be an acceptable number if the 4 teams attending were Vermont, Robert Morris, Richmond, Denver. 3 Ivy teams + Rutgers there's no excuses. All the Ivy teams have friends/family/alumni players all in the area or living in Manhattan and players natives of Northern NJ and Fairfield County CT, and then the next radius of NJ, eastern PA and New England fills up another large chunk of the participating players hometowns. It's simply WAY too low of a number. As the poster above states, 4400 for the state of Florida HS Final 4 is really spectacular! Wow I'm blown away by that.
Simply put, LI and the NY-Area sports community does not support or show up "minor league" sports at all. The Islanders are barely going to get by, St John's College basketball does just OK.
LI/Hofstra is hosting this year's NY State Lacrosse Championship games June 11th, a quadrupleheader. Figure at least 3 of the 8 teams will be from Long Island, and like 2 more from Westchester. They would be lucky to have a total of 3,000 for the entire day. 4400 in florida for just 4 teams!? Wow.

Other areas are now deserving to get multiple opportunities to host QF, it's overdue. 5K is a small threshold to pass of what Hofstra has done in the last several times theyve hosted. Problem is the NCAA pays for the travel, and Hofstra hosting 95% of the time is just a bus ride for the 4 teams that make it. Move it elsewhere and you're getting into flights, have you seen what the projected future costs of gas/airline fuel are the next couple year's under Bidenflation?
First off inflation a problem globally not just in U.S. Second off while it is true there are tons of alums of the Ivy team who played at Hofstra, that doesn't mean that translates into casual sports fans who will go see their lacrosse team play on a hot day the way a Maryland, Cuse, UVA or Notre Dame alum/fan would. I have no problem with other areas hosting, but Hofstra's Shuart Stadium should always be in the quarterfinal rotation. Even when stadium is half full it is incredible environment!

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 8:54 am
by 10stone5
These discussions always go off the rails.

Anyway, last year’s finals attendance, 14,816.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 9:06 am
by Farfromgeneva
21 isn’t a fair comp due the lingering Covid considerations. Take a 5 or 10yr average through 2019 and then put a +/- 15% on that and you have a very reasonable expected range.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 9:10 am
by 10stone5
Terps-UVA game,
attendance - 3,684.

Princeton-Yale game, attendance - 5,814.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 9:24 am
by wgdsr
may have been posted already, but the qf and ff have been booked thru 2026. so the advocating here will be for 2027 and beyond.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 9:26 am
by Peter Brown
wrhuradio wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 5:44 pm
Gobigred wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 4:52 pm "Move it elsewhere and you're getting into flights, have you seen what the projected future costs of gas/airline fuel are the next couple year's under Bidenflation?"

Not only unnecessary, but ignorant.
Lighten up. Way to get offended.

You get the point. With the rising costs of flights, driving distance/location will be even greater factor towards keeping QF in the usual places that have hosted.



Don’t listen to them. Most people have a sense of humor.

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 9:33 am
by Farfromgeneva
There’s plenty of tools floating around here as well

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 9:36 am
by Farfromgeneva
wgdsr wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 9:24 am may have been posted already, but the qf and ff have been booked thru 2026. so the advocating here will be for 2027 and beyond.
I mean my son just completed his first season in u9 so this is critical and all this work is going to a good place because I need to plan for his college years now!

Re: Stop playing tournament games in football stadiums

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 1:08 pm
by 44WeWantMore
hofstrapride1 wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 7:43 am
wrhuradio wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 2:35 pm
hofstrapride1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:36 pm
MDralphie wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:04 pm Hofstra attendance was terrible for QF especially considering the teams playing. Really sad. I’m heading to Hartford Friday morning and have been to every final since 2011 except 2017 when my Terps won…figures! As the game is spreading I think you need a a area many can reach without the lousy LI traffic. Major airports, hotels need to be close. I cannot remember for sure but I thought there was a huge crowd 2016 in Philly. Thought 2011 was similar Baltimore. Audi field in DC was a great venue for the game but the parking….
How do you consider Yale, Princeton, Penn and Penn ideal teams attendance wise? Yes they are all geographically close to Long Island but it isn't exactly Maryland, Cuse or Hopkins in terms of major fanbases.
5800 would be an acceptable number if the 4 teams attending were Vermont, Robert Morris, Richmond, Denver. 3 Ivy teams + Rutgers there's no excuses. All the Ivy teams have friends/family/alumni players all in the area or living in Manhattan and players natives of Northern NJ and Fairfield County CT, and then the next radius of NJ, eastern PA and New England fills up another large chunk of the participating players hometowns. It's simply WAY too low of a number. As the poster above states, 4400 for the state of Florida HS Final 4 is really spectacular! Wow I'm blown away by that.
Simply put, LI and the NY-Area sports community does not support or show up "minor league" sports at all. The Islanders are barely going to get by, St John's College basketball does just OK.
LI/Hofstra is hosting this year's NY State Lacrosse Championship games June 11th, a quadrupleheader. Figure at least 3 of the 8 teams will be from Long Island, and like 2 more from Westchester. They would be lucky to have a total of 3,000 for the entire day. 4400 in florida for just 4 teams!? Wow.

Other areas are now deserving to get multiple opportunities to host QF, it's overdue. 5K is a small threshold to pass of what Hofstra has done in the last several times theyve hosted. Problem is the NCAA pays for the travel, and Hofstra hosting 95% of the time is just a bus ride for the 4 teams that make it. Move it elsewhere and you're getting into flights, have you seen what the projected future costs of gas/airline fuel are the next couple year's under Bidenflation?
First off inflation a problem globally not just in U.S. Second off while it is true there are tons of alums of the Ivy team who played at Hofstra, that doesn't mean that translates into casual sports fans who will go see their lacrosse team play on a hot day the way a Maryland, Cuse, UVA or Notre Dame alum/fan would. I have no problem with other areas hosting, but Hofstra's Shuart Stadium should always be in the quarterfinal rotation. Even when stadium is half full it is incredible environment!
First, there is always an exception. Second, while I grew up on LI, I now understand the frustration others have with traffic there. Nonetheless, I and many other quarter-final-starved Blue Jay fans would be happy to join Maryland, Cuse, UVA or Notre Dame on the Belt Parkway.