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Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:37 pm
by user1020
I’m intrigued by the comment too. Not in a bad way just curious

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:33 pm
by 8meterPA
The domino's begin to drop, many more to come. Pretty sure no one had this move their bingo card

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:50 pm
by tothedraw
8meterPA wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:33 pm The domino's begin to drop, many more to come. Pretty sure no one had this move their bingo card
I'm not really surprised at this hire. If I was an AD filling an opening, he'd be one of my first calls.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:03 pm
by Dr. Tact
tothedraw wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:50 pm
8meterPA wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:33 pm The domino's begin to drop, many more to come. Pretty sure no one had this move their bingo card
I'm not really surprised at this hire. If I was an AD filling an opening, he'd be one of my first calls.
I was so sure they would go with Tara. As I said before, love the hire.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:16 pm
by tothedraw
Dr. Tact wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:03 pm
tothedraw wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:50 pm
8meterPA wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:33 pm The domino's begin to drop, many more to come. Pretty sure no one had this move their bingo card
I'm not really surprised at this hire. If I was an AD filling an opening, he'd be one of my first calls.
I was so sure they would go with Tara. As I said before, love the hire.
Someone earlier had said she was told she wasn't a candidate. I think that's a shame.
Not surprised someone scooped him up quickly.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:48 pm
by LarryGamLax
8meterPA wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:33 pm The domino's begin to drop, many more to come. Pretty sure no one had this move their bingo card

And neither did you! HA!!

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:24 pm
by LaxPundit07
Interesting move for TM. I know that ASU did not properly support their program; or at least not to the level a BCS school should. Which makes his run there even more impressive. IMO he will find convincing kids to come to Hop easier than bringing them out to ASU.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:26 am
by TNLAX
LaxPundit07 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:24 pm Interesting move for TM. I know that ASU did not properly support their program; or at least not to the level a BCS school should. Which makes his run there even more impressive. IMO he will find convincing kids to come to Hop easier than bringing them out to ASU.
This is just me, but if I am a young women (or a young man) I would not be to enticed to attend JHU and play lacrosse. If you are looking to play college lacrosse at an outstanding academic institution there are 15-20 schools out there that offer an excellent education and play high quality D1 lacrosse not to mention the number of real high quality NESCAP schools that offer a great education and good D3 lacrosse.

The academic rigors at JHU are probably a little greater than at ASU which I think may make it harder to recruit there compared to ASU. ASU offers sunshine, PAC 12 football and a nice town.

The women's program doesn't have the rich history of the men's program and each player has their own reasons for choosing the schools they attend. I just don't think it is an easy school for a coach to recruit top players.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:08 pm
by LarryGamLax
TNLAX wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:26 am
LaxPundit07 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:24 pm Interesting move for TM. I know that ASU did not properly support their program; or at least not to the level a BCS school should. Which makes his run there even more impressive. IMO he will find convincing kids to come to Hop easier than bringing them out to ASU.
This is just me, but if I am a young women (or a young man) I would not be to enticed to attend JHU and play lacrosse. If you are looking to play college lacrosse at an outstanding academic institution there are 15-20 schools out there that offer an excellent education and play high quality D1 lacrosse not to mention the number of real high quality NESCAP schools that offer a great education and good D3 lacrosse.
You do not state WHY you would not go to Hopkins. I don't know what the NESCAP is, but none of the schools in the NESCAC could beat Hopkins on the Field. They are outstanding academic schools and the level of Lacrosse is excellent. They had 3 teams finish in the top 10.

The academic rigors at JHU are probably a little greater than at ASU which I think may make it harder to recruit there compared to ASU. ASU offers sunshine, PAC 12 football and a nice town.
The academic rigors at JHU are a LOT greater than those at ASU. No disrespect to ASU at all. Totally different schools


The women's program doesn't have the rich history of the men's program and each player has their own reasons for choosing the schools they attend. I just don't think it is an easy school for a coach to recruit top players.

And that is what made Janine's tenure even more remarkable. What you said above is true, but Janine created her own history for the Women's team. Tim is a very good coach and he will work hard, but it is not going to be easy.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm
by user1020
IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:32 pm
by hmmm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home
It's silly to believe most people would disagree with this.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:40 pm
by wlaxphan20
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home

For the players in the Maryland hot bed that want to stay close to home, I think having UMD and Navy less than an hours drive from Hopkins can make for some competitive recruiting battles, too. Yes, I know the candidate pool for USNA is much smaller, but I’d still count it as competition especially if world-class education is a priority for the recruit.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
by @inthe8m
hmmm wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:32 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home
It's silly to believe most people would disagree with this.
It has been discussed before how different recruits value different things over others when looking at schools. I can assure you that there are plenty of recruits who would love to play at a school like ASU over a school like Hopkins. It is just a matter of preference.

I imagine that there are a lot of people who think it is silly to pay $70k/year for your kid to go to any school to play lacrosse.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:51 pm
by Seacoaster(1)
wlaxphan20 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:40 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home

For the players in the Maryland hot bed that want to stay close to home, I think having UMD and Navy less than an hours drive from Hopkins can make for some competitive recruiting battles, too. Yes, I know the candidate pool for USNA is much smaller, but I’d still count it as competition especially if world-class education is a priority for the recruit.
Loyola.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:53 pm
by @inthe8m
LarryGamLax wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:08 pm
TNLAX wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:26 am
LaxPundit07 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:24 pm Interesting move for TM. I know that ASU did not properly support their program; or at least not to the level a BCS school should. Which makes his run there even more impressive. IMO he will find convincing kids to come to Hop easier than bringing them out to ASU.
This is just me, but if I am a young women (or a young man) I would not be to enticed to attend JHU and play lacrosse. If you are looking to play college lacrosse at an outstanding academic institution there are 15-20 schools out there that offer an excellent education and play high quality D1 lacrosse not to mention the number of real high quality NESCAP schools that offer a great education and good D3 lacrosse.
You do not state WHY you would not go to Hopkins. I don't know what the NESCAP is, but none of the schools in the NESCAC could beat Hopkins on the Field. They are outstanding academic schools and the level of Lacrosse is excellent. They had 3 teams finish in the top 10.

The academic rigors at JHU are probably a little greater than at ASU which I think may make it harder to recruit there compared to ASU. ASU offers sunshine, PAC 12 football and a nice town.
The academic rigors at JHU are a LOT greater than those at ASU. No disrespect to ASU at all. Totally different schools


The women's program doesn't have the rich history of the men's program and each player has their own reasons for choosing the schools they attend. I just don't think it is an easy school for a coach to recruit top players.

And that is what made Janine's tenure even more remarkable. What you said above is true, but Janine created her own history for the Women's team. Tim is a very good coach and he will work hard, but it is not going to be easy.
Other than the length of her tenure, I would like to hear more about the remarkable things that Tucker did at Hopkins. I have personally met her and found her to be very engaging and thoughtful. But, my opinion is that she underachieved over the last 10 years or so when it comes to on-field results.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:56 pm
by wlaxphan20
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:51 pm
wlaxphan20 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:40 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home

For the players in the Maryland hot bed that want to stay close to home, I think having UMD and Navy less than an hours drive from Hopkins can make for some competitive recruiting battles, too. Yes, I know the candidate pool for USNA is much smaller, but I’d still count it as competition especially if world-class education is a priority for the recruit.
Loyola.
Yikes :oops: yes right down the street, sorry Doc! But that’s another one.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:13 pm
by user1020
@inthe8m wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
hmmm wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:32 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home
It's silly to believe most people would disagree with this.
It has been discussed before how different recruits value different things over others when looking at schools. I can assure you that there are plenty of recruits who would love to play at a school like ASU over a school like Hopkins. It is just a matter of preference.

I imagine that there are a lot of people who think it is silly to pay $70k/year for your kid to go to any school to play lacrosse.
I don’t doubt there are players that would rather play at ASU, but I believe it is harder to recruit to ASU than to Hop. Even with the extra competition that Hop has to other Maryland colleges there is a lot of talent to recruit from. Hop has gotten higher level recruits over the years compared to ASU

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:18 pm
by hmmm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:13 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
hmmm wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:32 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home
It's silly to believe most people would disagree with this.
It has been discussed before how different recruits value different things over others when looking at schools. I can assure you that there are plenty of recruits who would love to play at a school like ASU over a school like Hopkins. It is just a matter of preference.

I imagine that there are a lot of people who think it is silly to pay $70k/year for your kid to go to any school to play lacrosse.
I don’t doubt there are players that would rather play at ASU, but I believe it is harder to recruit to ASU than to Hop. Even with the extra competition that Hop has to other Maryland colleges there is a lot of talent to recruit from. Hop has gotten higher level recruits over the years compared to ASU
That was my point. Yes everyone chooses schools for different reasons. Sure there are girls that would rather go to ASU.

And no one is paying 70k/year to play lacrosse at Hopkins.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:21 pm
by @inthe8m
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:13 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
hmmm wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:32 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home
It's silly to believe most people would disagree with this.
It has been discussed before how different recruits value different things over others when looking at schools. I can assure you that there are plenty of recruits who would love to play at a school like ASU over a school like Hopkins. It is just a matter of preference.

I imagine that there are a lot of people who think it is silly to pay $70k/year for your kid to go to any school to play lacrosse.
I don’t doubt there are players that would rather play at ASU, but I believe it is harder to recruit to ASU than to Hop. Even with the extra competition that Hop has to other Maryland colleges there is a lot of talent to recruit from. Hop has gotten higher level recruits over the years compared to ASU
:lol: ASU played their inaugural season in 2018.

Re: Coaching Carousel 2022-2023

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:24 pm
by @inthe8m
hmmm wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:18 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:13 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
hmmm wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:32 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:25 pm IMO it will be much easier to recruit to play at Hop than ASU, but that may be because if I was a player I’d rather go to Hop. It provides the opportunity to receive a fantastic education while playing high level lacrosse.

Great education
Big 10 level of competition
In the biggest hot bed of lacrosse in the world which can help if players want to stay close to home
It's silly to believe most people would disagree with this.
It has been discussed before how different recruits value different things over others when looking at schools. I can assure you that there are plenty of recruits who would love to play at a school like ASU over a school like Hopkins. It is just a matter of preference.

I imagine that there are a lot of people who think it is silly to pay $70k/year for your kid to go to any school to play lacrosse.
I don’t doubt there are players that would rather play at ASU, but I believe it is harder to recruit to ASU than to Hop. Even with the extra competition that Hop has to other Maryland colleges there is a lot of talent to recruit from. Hop has gotten higher level recruits over the years compared to ASU
That was my point. Yes everyone chooses schools for different reasons. Sure there are girls that would rather go to ASU.

And no one is paying 70k/year to play lacrosse at Hopkins.
Please, do tell. I was just using the estimated costs of attendance provided by JHU.