Re: Georgetown 2022
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:47 pm
Wow!! Fantastic article, thanks for sharing!!Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:55 pm All great but this trio....
https://cuse.com/news/2006/10/27/powells.aspx
3 moreAreaLax wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:14 amBelieve there is at least oneJoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:08 amAre there any more Kelly's left after this? I think they have the Stanwick's beat at this point...
Joe
Callax,callaxdad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:27 pmWow!! Fantastic article, thanks for sharing!!Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:55 pm All great but this trio....
https://cuse.com/news/2006/10/27/powells.aspx
Well documented when they got this heralded #1 class including Broncaccio and while GTown Prep has had many great players it felt like they were getting smitten with themselves by late 2000s. Best player in that era overall IMO was Nick Mirabito from Chenango Forks but those high ranked classes were different than the Brodie Merrill and Walid Hajj types that Urick built the program on it seemed to me.Old&InTheWay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:33 am If my memory is correct G-Town and a few other schools have had top rank classes before and it didn't result in championships. I am not saying this team with its future commits won't do well, I am trying to figure out how well of an indicator is the present lacrosse ranking system on future team success . Anyone have data on this?
Mirabito, huge name in Upstate NY. I assume he is a member of this family?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:24 amWell documented when they got this heralded #1 class including Broncaccio and while GTown Prep has had many great players it felt like they were getting smitten with themselves by late 2000s. Best player in that era overall IMO was Nick Mirabito from Chenango Forks but those high ranked classes were different than the Brodie Merrill and Walid Hajj types that Urick built the program on it seemed to me.Old&InTheWay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:33 am If my memory is correct G-Town and a few other schools have had top rank classes before and it didn't result in championships. I am not saying this team with its future commits won't do well, I am trying to figure out how well of an indicator is the present lacrosse ranking system on future team success . Anyone have data on this?
So yes it’s a risk to lean on rankings and theres always 1-2 schools that have this momentum and get highly rated kids who don’t produce, at least as a team, at the higher levels. Think Michigan was one most of this last decade. UNC many years after Breschi got there and I think it’s happened to ND as well. Common theme in all sports to get access to some of the top HS kids after building success on the backs of more grinders and workers who maybe haven’t been given all the advantages and then miscalculate on who they take. Does this mean it’ll happen to GTown again? Who knows but it’s fair to question the rankings. Especially when the last 2yrs or so are influences by less travel and less games to see.
Joe
We're opening with Towson on 2/11, so if true then this game is probably 2/19. Slightly terrified of the Hoyas but looking forward to adding another top team to the schedule.
Yes the retail and jobber company up near my old hood. Had seen the stations for years and asked the question a few years back myself.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:18 amMirabito, huge name in Upstate NY. I assume he is a member of this family?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:24 amWell documented when they got this heralded #1 class including Broncaccio and while GTown Prep has had many great players it felt like they were getting smitten with themselves by late 2000s. Best player in that era overall IMO was Nick Mirabito from Chenango Forks but those high ranked classes were different than the Brodie Merrill and Walid Hajj types that Urick built the program on it seemed to me.Old&InTheWay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:33 am If my memory is correct G-Town and a few other schools have had top rank classes before and it didn't result in championships. I am not saying this team with its future commits won't do well, I am trying to figure out how well of an indicator is the present lacrosse ranking system on future team success . Anyone have data on this?
So yes it’s a risk to lean on rankings and theres always 1-2 schools that have this momentum and get highly rated kids who don’t produce, at least as a team, at the higher levels. Think Michigan was one most of this last decade. UNC many years after Breschi got there and I think it’s happened to ND as well. Common theme in all sports to get access to some of the top HS kids after building success on the backs of more grinders and workers who maybe haven’t been given all the advantages and then miscalculate on who they take. Does this mean it’ll happen to GTown again? Who knows but it’s fair to question the rankings. Especially when the last 2yrs or so are influences by less travel and less games to see.
Joe
Understood, so while still wealthy, nothing like what you see on LI and in Northern NJ (Alpine NJ)
Like the car heater works wealthy playing against kids who may be homeless or don’t value life nearly as much as you do all the time.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:32 pmUnderstood, so while still wealthy, nothing like what you see on LI and in Northern NJ (Alpine NJ)
Joe
When did the economic downfall in that area start? Late 70's/Early 80's?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:49 pmLike the car heater works wealthy playing against kids who may be homeless or don’t value life nearly as much as you do all the time.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:32 pmUnderstood, so while still wealthy, nothing like what you see on LI and in Northern NJ (Alpine NJ)
Joe
Interesting, Out of the Furnace was a great movie. I'd imagine there are some real unsavory types just like Woody's take on Harlan DeGroat. Real frightening guy. Great movie. Thanks for the enlightenment didn't realize it's been that long of a downturn.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:50 pm Seems like 80s but probably late 60s early 70s. Not a far cry from what you see in Out of the Furnace. Scranton an hour due south on I81 about the same as is Syracuse 1hr north up 81
Excellent movie. It had had been on my “to watch” list for years. Hell or High Water is also on my list…have you watched it?JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:46 pmInteresting, Out of the Furnace was a great movie. I'd imagine there are some real unsavory types just like Woody's take on Harlan DeGroat. Real frightening guy. Great movie. Thanks for the enlightenment didn't realize it's been that long of a downturn.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:50 pm Seems like 80s but probably late 60s early 70s. Not a far cry from what you see in Out of the Furnace. Scranton an hour due south on I81 about the same as is Syracuse 1hr north up 81
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