Coronavirus

[a fan]

You jumped into the thread mid-stream and didn't follow. That's not on me. You might want to go back through the thread posts, prior to your entry, if you really want to.

Okay. My bad for doing that.

[youthathletics]

cv19 has been very-very good to me, says Fauci: https://twitter.com/isource_news/status ... 73378?s=20

[Typical Lax Dad]

cv19 has been very-very good to me, says Fauci: https://twitter.com/isource_news/status ... 73378?s=20

https://www.caclubindia.com/wealth/anth ... _Net_Worth

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/fau ... -pandemic/

[jhu72]

If they cannot present their data/research/presentations through normal scientific outlets such as peer reviewed journals and science society meetings I have little problem with a characterization of “misinformation,” given that they choose present only through what is considered a misinformation channel.

It’s not like those preferred outlets don’t ever have any kooks…. The American Physical Society has a long standing practice of allowing any paying member to present at a general meeting at least one poster or 12 minute talk. My very first presentation was second to the end of a session on electronic spectra instrumentation, and the room was packed for the next guy who: insisted God gave him the true baryon masses, that he would give anyone $2k is they could _prove_him wrong, and of course he would be the judge. I finished my talk about 2-4 minutes early because it was quite intimidating to face so many in an obscure section…

Dr. Lawrie: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Theresa-Lawrie

There's plenty more if you need it. I'm pretty certain she vetted Malhotra's work prior to introducing him at the conference.
Don't you think?

And even if he's wrong, it's not "misinformation" bullsh!t, labeled by captured establishment Drs. and scientists who don't want the boat to be rocked. It's simply information/data that can be challenged and proven as either correct or not. You know, the way science is supposed to work?

... Red is right. If this guy has real proof, a reputable publisher and venue would be happy to provide him a forum. You will just have to resort to the tired conspiracy theory if you don't believe that.

[tech37]

Doubt anyone will watch this as it passes the fifteen minute attention span we mostly get in the world today.
If you do, please tell me how you write this guy off as a quack, as one to be ignored. Dumbforkistanians are
very interested in your input here.
"Biased funding research"....like we got from the one gvmt agency who gave us the results of their marijuana research, quite different from what we got when independent researches enter the picture.
https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/multi ... onference/

... I watched to the end of his talk.

The first half of his talk was largely a yawn to me. Not new, pharma is a corrupt money making machine. There is a solution, I have advocated for a long time -- take the profit out of it!!! I am called a socialist or worse. There are cases of individual physician corruption, but that is a small number, and relies on big pharma's existence. The part where he claims COVID MRNA does more harm than good, is more interesting. I will need to actually read his paper. He quoted some statistics I am not sure they are valid - looking at the problem the way he did.

A word of caution, he has gone through a change in his perspective, triggered by his father's death. I have seen a couple cases of individuals go through this with friends losing loved ones who have come to blame the medical community, irrationally IMO, not the particular physician involved. The other caution is thinking everyone involved in the COVID vax is involved in a conspiracy. I don't believe that is actually possible.

The jury is out for me.

So did you read the paper and validate his statistics as you told DMac you would?

Or was that "misinformation" claim enough scientific evidence for you not to bother?

As I said, he may be incorrect, but until it's proven one way or another, to casually write it off as "misinformation" is, if not anti-science, certainly dishonest.

[runrussellrun]

Doubt anyone will watch this as it passes the fifteen minute attention span we mostly get in the world today.
If you do, please tell me how you write this guy off as a quack, as one to be ignored. Dumbforkistanians are
very interested in your input here.
"Biased funding research"....like we got from the one gvmt agency who gave us the results of their marijuana research, quite different from what we got when independent researches enter the picture.
https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/multi ... onference/

... I watched to the end of his talk.

The first half of his talk was largely a yawn to me. Not new, pharma is a corrupt money making machine. There is a solution, I have advocated for a long time -- take the profit out of it!!! I am called a socialist or worse. There are cases of individual physician corruption, but that is a small number, and relies on big pharma's existence. The part where he claims COVID MRNA does more harm than good, is more interesting. I will need to actually read his paper. He quoted some statistics I am not sure they are valid - looking at the problem the way he did.

A word of caution, he has gone through a change in his perspective, triggered by his father's death. I have seen a couple cases of individuals go through this with friends losing loved ones who have come to blame the medical community, irrationally IMO, not the particular physician involved. The other caution is thinking everyone involved in the COVID vax is involved in a conspiracy. I don't believe that is actually possible.

The jury is out for me.

So did you read the paper and validate his statistics as you told DMac you would? (BTW, what credentials or expertise do you possess in order to validate anything that Malhotra is presenting?)

Or was that "misinformation" claim enough scientific evidence for you not to bother?

The earth is flat...............especially up in Canada.

any links to , yet another, fhizer related story, regarding tRumps fake drug.

will be summarily ignored.


It appears that roughly 1/3 of the "drug" was a placebo (not a study, but "vaccine" distribution ) "Researchers" didn't even bother to check the side effects of "group yellow". (which, apparently, got the placebo instead of the "vaccine".

yup.......human trials.

just STFup and take the jab.

Remember, the head of fhizer, in his book, clearly stated that tRumps "operation warp speed" funds helped, tremendously.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10065129/

Just putting it out there.

[runrussellrun]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10065129/

Just putting it out there.

Thank you for providing even more evidence that the covid shot does not work.

Your link/study even says so.

Wonder how quickly POTs is managed with "drugs", instead of the usually ignored "lifestyle" changes the "profe$$ional$" tell you at our annuals.

CO -managed.........drugs and exercise. The former always winning.

Interesting (not) that TLD's "report" ignores the demographics of said POTS victims. Or, vaccination status

[runrussellrun]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10065129/

Just putting it out there.

Footnotes 8 thru 11 are real gems. Way to go TLD.....two citations from 2021.....the others from 2020. Earth to TLD....it IS 2023


8. Autonomic dysfunction in 'long COVID': rationale, physiology and management strategies. Dani M, Dirksen A, Taraborrelli P, Torocastro M, Panagopoulos D, Sutton R, Lim PB. Clin Med (Lond) 2021;21:0–7. [PMC free article] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]

9. COVID-19 dysautonomia. Goodman BP, Khoury JA, Blair JE, Grill MF. Front Neurol. 2021;12:624968. [PMC free article] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]

10. A case report of postural tachycardia syndrome after COVID-19. Miglis MG, Prieto T, Shaik R, Muppidi S, Sinn DI, Jaradeh S. Clin Auton Res. 2020;30:449–451. [PMC free article] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]

11. New-onset postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome following coronavirus disease 2019 infection. Kanjwal K, Jamal S, Kichloo A, Grubb BP. J Innov Card Rhythm Manag. 2020;11:4302–4304. [PMC free article] [PubMed] [Google Scholar]

Keep em coming, TLD.....great stuff.

[Farfromgeneva]

Two posts to demonstrate idiocy. Wonderful.

[jhu72]

Hydroxychloroquine back in the news.

[cradleandshoot]

Hydroxychloroquine back in the news.

Will hydro work when washing a load of whites in hot water?

[CU88a]

DNA in Covid-19 vaccines: 7 pieces of context missed from Florida Surgeon General’s unnecessary warning

KATELYN JETELINA, EDWARD NIRENBERG, AND KRISTEN PANTHAGANI, MD, PHD
JAN 5

Happy 2024!

The first public health rumor of the year came in hot: the Florida Surgeon General sent an email airing his concerns about mRNA Covid-19 vaccines: billions of DNA fragments per dose of Covid-19 mRNA vaccines.

This isn’t the first time he questioned the safety of mRNA Covid-19 vaccines, but it is a new angle. As always, each claim should be evaluated individually based on merit.

Let’s dig in.


First, the kernel of truth.
Rumors typically have a kernel of truth—a core accuracy surrounded by dubious claims. And, in the most complex claims, the molecular biology required to explain in detail why the claims are unfounded spans a few semesters’ worth of material. This makes rumors like these particularly dangerous: it’s hard for the general public to separate hypothetical (and unfounded) concerns from true risks. And it takes a long time to debunk.

What’s the kernel of truth here? There are DNA fragments in Covid-19 vaccines.

But there are seven important pieces of context missing:

1. “Billions of DNA fragments per dose” is relatively small.
Ladapo got this statistic from a recent preprint study with serious methodological problems. But if we assume this number is true, when we look at microscopic levels, there are trillions and trillions of particles in vaccines. For reference, there are about 13 trillion strands of RNA in a Pfizer vaccine alone. “Billions” turns out to be a very small relative quantity.

2. DNA fragments are in ALL vaccines.
Producing vaccines requires us to use cells, and cells contain DNA. This is why DNA fragments are found in all vaccines. DNA fragments aren’t limited to vaccines, either. Insulin, for example, also contains small amounts of DNA from the bacteria used to make it.

Regardless, we try to limit the number because it can impact the immune response. We aim for the purest form of vaccines so they work as intended and consistently. The FDA requires less than 10 ng/dose of residual DNA fragments in any vaccine for full approval.

Multiple regulators across the globe have consistently found vaccines to have acceptable levels of DNA fragments. Even the flawed preprint confirms Covid-19 vaccines’ DNA content is far below any levels indicating a safety or manufacturing concern (see below).


Data for this graph was from this preprint.
3. Cells have safety mechanisms.
Even with small fragments of DNA, humans have a default protection response: when exposed to foreign DNA, whether from food, air, viruses or, yes, vaccines, our bodies destroy it through a shredder (called a DNase)—the DNA gets chopped into tiny fragments and our body recycles them. Our defense mechanisms against foreign DNA are much more extensive than this, but this is a major barrier.

4. It is biologically impossible for random DNA fragments to integrate into our genes.
Even if some DNA fragments are left behind from the shredder, they cannot be inserted into our genes and change our DNA, as Ladapo falsely insinuates. There are two main reasons:

DNA fragments lack opportunity. The vaccines lack the basic tools necessary to alter our genes. (See this previous YLE post.)

DNA fragments lack stability. The DNA is fragmented and, thus, unstable inside the cell. This means it cannot create a dangerous protein.

5. DNA fragments will not impact our children’s genes, either.
Ladapo claims that DNA fragments will impact not just our genes but our children’s genes.

First, if foreign DNA does not affect our genes, it will not affect our children’s genes.

Second, we have two important preclinical studies—studies before human clinical trials—that show the claim is false:

Where does the vaccine go? One study gave a massive dose of vaccine (equivalent to hundreds of times the relevant human dose) to rats and found the vast majority went to lymph nodes, liver, and spleen. About 0.1%—a trivial amount—went into the ovaries and testes. Covid-19 vaccines are not delivering significant doses of foreign DNA to reproductive organs. (And any tiny, tiny, tiny dose that theoretically may get there will quickly meet its demise by the cell’s protection mechanisms.)

Do DNA fragments change genes? Another study evaluated if the vaccine (meaning all parts of the vaccine, including any impurities) impacts the genome through genotoxicity assays. The studies showed no effect.

We would all prefer to have human data, but there’s a great reason why this hasn’t been done in humans: it would require us to surgically take samples from the relevant sites (ovaries and testicles), which would be invasive and unethical.

6. Lipid nanoparticles are safe.
mRNA is very fragile, so it needs to be packaged in fat bubbles (i.e., lipid nanoparticles) to get it to go where it needs to be. Ladapo claims that these lipid nanoparticles make them unsafe.

We’ve seen this rumor throughout the pandemic. But scientists have been working with lipid nanoparticles since the 1960s. There is no evidence that these fat bubbles are dangerous to humans. They get rapidly metabolized and cleared from the body in days.

7. Simian Virus 40 promoter/enhancer (SV40) is also not a concern.
Finally, Ladapo argues that there is a special danger to the mRNA vaccines because the template used to make the mRNA vaccines uses a piece of SV40. This is totally unfounded.

First, some basics. SV40 is a virus first identified in monkey cells, and now its parts are used as a molecular biology tool. The SV40 virus was not used to produce the Covid-19 vaccines; only one part was used (a sequence called a promoter).

For some time, there was concern about the SV40 virus (not the promoter). The whole SV40 virus was once suspected of causing cancer in humans because of some concerning lab studies. In the 1960s, it was discovered SV40 had contaminated some of the polio vaccines because it was present in the cell cultures used to make them. However, we now know even the virus itself is not a concern—studies following polio-vaccinated people for decades found no difference in their risk of cancer compared with those who never received SV40 virus-containing vaccines.

If the virus itself doesn’t cause cancer, there’s no reason to be concerned about small fragments of the promoter.

Bottom line
There are trace quantities of DNA fragments in our mRNA vaccines. But our amazing human immune systems know what to do.

Regardless, we have been tracking the safety of Covid-19 vaccines at unprecedented levels across the globe for more than three years. Scientific evidence from the lab, clinical trials, and epidemiological real-world data continue to verify a highly favorable profile of benefit to risk of Covid-19 vaccines.

Covid-19 vaccines save lives. Unfortunately, many people—including 8,288 Floridians in 2023 alone—continue to lose their lives to Covid-19. Don’t let rumors get in the way of protecting yourself and living a healthy life.


https://open.substack.com/pub/yourlocal ... dium=email

[tech37]

DNA in Covid-19 vaccines: 7 pieces of context missed from Florida Surgeon General’s unnecessary warning

KATELYN JETELINA, EDWARD NIRENBERG, AND KRISTEN PANTHAGANI, MD, PHD
JAN 5

Happy 2024!

The first public health rumor of the year came in hot: the Florida Surgeon General sent an email airing his concerns about mRNA Covid-19 vaccines: billions of DNA fragments per dose of Covid-19 mRNA vaccines.

This isn’t the first time he questioned the safety of mRNA Covid-19 vaccines, but it is a new angle. As always, each claim should be evaluated individually based on merit.

Let’s dig in.


First, the kernel of truth.
Rumors typically have a kernel of truth—a core accuracy surrounded by dubious claims. And, in the most complex claims, the molecular biology required to explain in detail why the claims are unfounded spans a few semesters’ worth of material. This makes rumors like these particularly dangerous: it’s hard for the general public to separate hypothetical (and unfounded) concerns from true risks. And it takes a long time to debunk.

What’s the kernel of truth here? There are DNA fragments in Covid-19 vaccines.

But there are seven important pieces of context missing:

1. “Billions of DNA fragments per dose” is relatively small.
Ladapo got this statistic from a recent preprint study with serious methodological problems. But if we assume this number is true, when we look at microscopic levels, there are trillions and trillions of particles in vaccines. For reference, there are about 13 trillion strands of RNA in a Pfizer vaccine alone. “Billions” turns out to be a very small relative quantity.

2. DNA fragments are in ALL vaccines.
Producing vaccines requires us to use cells, and cells contain DNA. This is why DNA fragments are found in all vaccines. DNA fragments aren’t limited to vaccines, either. Insulin, for example, also contains small amounts of DNA from the bacteria used to make it.

Regardless, we try to limit the number because it can impact the immune response. We aim for the purest form of vaccines so they work as intended and consistently. The FDA requires less than 10 ng/dose of residual DNA fragments in any vaccine for full approval.

Multiple regulators across the globe have consistently found vaccines to have acceptable levels of DNA fragments. Even the flawed preprint confirms Covid-19 vaccines’ DNA content is far below any levels indicating a safety or manufacturing concern (see below).


Data for this graph was from this preprint.
3. Cells have safety mechanisms.
Even with small fragments of DNA, humans have a default protection response: when exposed to foreign DNA, whether from food, air, viruses or, yes, vaccines, our bodies destroy it through a shredder (called a DNase)—the DNA gets chopped into tiny fragments and our body recycles them. Our defense mechanisms against foreign DNA are much more extensive than this, but this is a major barrier.

4. It is biologically impossible for random DNA fragments to integrate into our genes.
Even if some DNA fragments are left behind from the shredder, they cannot be inserted into our genes and change our DNA, as Ladapo falsely insinuates. There are two main reasons:

DNA fragments lack opportunity. The vaccines lack the basic tools necessary to alter our genes. (See this previous YLE post.)

DNA fragments lack stability. The DNA is fragmented and, thus, unstable inside the cell. This means it cannot create a dangerous protein.

5. DNA fragments will not impact our children’s genes, either.
Ladapo claims that DNA fragments will impact not just our genes but our children’s genes.

First, if foreign DNA does not affect our genes, it will not affect our children’s genes.

Second, we have two important preclinical studies—studies before human clinical trials—that show the claim is false:

Where does the vaccine go? One study gave a massive dose of vaccine (equivalent to hundreds of times the relevant human dose) to rats and found the vast majority went to lymph nodes, liver, and spleen. About 0.1%—a trivial amount—went into the ovaries and testes. Covid-19 vaccines are not delivering significant doses of foreign DNA to reproductive organs. (And any tiny, tiny, tiny dose that theoretically may get there will quickly meet its demise by the cell’s protection mechanisms.)

Do DNA fragments change genes? Another study evaluated if the vaccine (meaning all parts of the vaccine, including any impurities) impacts the genome through genotoxicity assays. The studies showed no effect.

We would all prefer to have human data, but there’s a great reason why this hasn’t been done in humans: it would require us to surgically take samples from the relevant sites (ovaries and testicles), which would be invasive and unethical.

6. Lipid nanoparticles are safe.
mRNA is very fragile, so it needs to be packaged in fat bubbles (i.e., lipid nanoparticles) to get it to go where it needs to be. Ladapo claims that these lipid nanoparticles make them unsafe.

We’ve seen this rumor throughout the pandemic. But scientists have been working with lipid nanoparticles since the 1960s. There is no evidence that these fat bubbles are dangerous to humans. They get rapidly metabolized and cleared from the body in days.

7. Simian Virus 40 promoter/enhancer (SV40) is also not a concern.
Finally, Ladapo argues that there is a special danger to the mRNA vaccines because the template used to make the mRNA vaccines uses a piece of SV40. This is totally unfounded.

First, some basics. SV40 is a virus first identified in monkey cells, and now its parts are used as a molecular biology tool. The SV40 virus was not used to produce the Covid-19 vaccines; only one part was used (a sequence called a promoter).

For some time, there was concern about the SV40 virus (not the promoter). The whole SV40 virus was once suspected of causing cancer in humans because of some concerning lab studies. In the 1960s, it was discovered SV40 had contaminated some of the polio vaccines because it was present in the cell cultures used to make them. However, we now know even the virus itself is not a concern—studies following polio-vaccinated people for decades found no difference in their risk of cancer compared with those who never received SV40 virus-containing vaccines.

If the virus itself doesn’t cause cancer, there’s no reason to be concerned about small fragments of the promoter.

Bottom line
There are trace quantities of DNA fragments in our mRNA vaccines. But our amazing human immune systems know what to do.

Regardless, we have been tracking the safety of Covid-19 vaccines at unprecedented levels across the globe for more than three years. Scientific evidence from the lab, clinical trials, and epidemiological real-world data continue to verify a highly favorable profile of benefit to risk of Covid-19 vaccines.

Covid-19 vaccines save lives. Unfortunately, many people—including 8,288 Floridians in 2023 alone—continue to lose their lives to Covid-19. Don’t let rumors get in the way of protecting yourself and living a healthy life.


https://open.substack.com/pub/yourlocal ... dium=email

I'll be... and here I thought Substack (some guy on the internet) wasn't acceptable on fanlax. Guess if it advances the narrative...

Hypocrites.

[dislaxxic]

Hypocrites? Who's the hypocrite? CU88 for posting the link? The writers of the piece on Substack? Anyone who reads the link on FanLax? FanLax modes for allowing the post??

Is the Florida Surgeon General a good, believable source of information on vaccinations?

Yeah, there are hypocrites and there are numbnuts. Ladapo qualifies as both, IMO.

..

[a fan]

DNA in Covid-19 vaccines: 7 pieces of context missed from Florida Surgeon General’s unnecessary warning

KATELYN JETELINA, EDWARD NIRENBERG, AND KRISTEN PANTHAGANI, MD, PHD
JAN 5

Happy 2024!

The first public health rumor of the year came in hot: the Florida Surgeon General sent an email airing his concerns about mRNA Covid-19 vaccines: billions of DNA fragments per dose of Covid-19 mRNA vaccines.

This isn’t the first time he questioned the safety of mRNA Covid-19 vaccines, but it is a new angle. As always, each claim should be evaluated individually based on merit.

Let’s dig in.


First, the kernel of truth.
Rumors typically have a kernel of truth—a core accuracy surrounded by dubious claims. And, in the most complex claims, the molecular biology required to explain in detail why the claims are unfounded spans a few semesters’ worth of material. This makes rumors like these particularly dangerous: it’s hard for the general public to separate hypothetical (and unfounded) concerns from true risks. And it takes a long time to debunk.

What’s the kernel of truth here? There are DNA fragments in Covid-19 vaccines.

But there are seven important pieces of context missing:

1. “Billions of DNA fragments per dose” is relatively small.
Ladapo got this statistic from a recent preprint study with serious methodological problems. But if we assume this number is true, when we look at microscopic levels, there are trillions and trillions of particles in vaccines. For reference, there are about 13 trillion strands of RNA in a Pfizer vaccine alone. “Billions” turns out to be a very small relative quantity.

2. DNA fragments are in ALL vaccines.
Producing vaccines requires us to use cells, and cells contain DNA. This is why DNA fragments are found in all vaccines. DNA fragments aren’t limited to vaccines, either. Insulin, for example, also contains small amounts of DNA from the bacteria used to make it.

Regardless, we try to limit the number because it can impact the immune response. We aim for the purest form of vaccines so they work as intended and consistently. The FDA requires less than 10 ng/dose of residual DNA fragments in any vaccine for full approval.

Multiple regulators across the globe have consistently found vaccines to have acceptable levels of DNA fragments. Even the flawed preprint confirms Covid-19 vaccines’ DNA content is far below any levels indicating a safety or manufacturing concern (see below).


Data for this graph was from this preprint.
3. Cells have safety mechanisms.
Even with small fragments of DNA, humans have a default protection response: when exposed to foreign DNA, whether from food, air, viruses or, yes, vaccines, our bodies destroy it through a shredder (called a DNase)—the DNA gets chopped into tiny fragments and our body recycles them. Our defense mechanisms against foreign DNA are much more extensive than this, but this is a major barrier.

4. It is biologically impossible for random DNA fragments to integrate into our genes.
Even if some DNA fragments are left behind from the shredder, they cannot be inserted into our genes and change our DNA, as Ladapo falsely insinuates. There are two main reasons:

DNA fragments lack opportunity. The vaccines lack the basic tools necessary to alter our genes. (See this previous YLE post.)

DNA fragments lack stability. The DNA is fragmented and, thus, unstable inside the cell. This means it cannot create a dangerous protein.

5. DNA fragments will not impact our children’s genes, either.
Ladapo claims that DNA fragments will impact not just our genes but our children’s genes.

First, if foreign DNA does not affect our genes, it will not affect our children’s genes.

Second, we have two important preclinical studies—studies before human clinical trials—that show the claim is false:

Where does the vaccine go? One study gave a massive dose of vaccine (equivalent to hundreds of times the relevant human dose) to rats and found the vast majority went to lymph nodes, liver, and spleen. About 0.1%—a trivial amount—went into the ovaries and testes. Covid-19 vaccines are not delivering significant doses of foreign DNA to reproductive organs. (And any tiny, tiny, tiny dose that theoretically may get there will quickly meet its demise by the cell’s protection mechanisms.)

Do DNA fragments change genes? Another study evaluated if the vaccine (meaning all parts of the vaccine, including any impurities) impacts the genome through genotoxicity assays. The studies showed no effect.

We would all prefer to have human data, but there’s a great reason why this hasn’t been done in humans: it would require us to surgically take samples from the relevant sites (ovaries and testicles), which would be invasive and unethical.

6. Lipid nanoparticles are safe.
mRNA is very fragile, so it needs to be packaged in fat bubbles (i.e., lipid nanoparticles) to get it to go where it needs to be. Ladapo claims that these lipid nanoparticles make them unsafe.

We’ve seen this rumor throughout the pandemic. But scientists have been working with lipid nanoparticles since the 1960s. There is no evidence that these fat bubbles are dangerous to humans. They get rapidly metabolized and cleared from the body in days.

7. Simian Virus 40 promoter/enhancer (SV40) is also not a concern.
Finally, Ladapo argues that there is a special danger to the mRNA vaccines because the template used to make the mRNA vaccines uses a piece of SV40. This is totally unfounded.

First, some basics. SV40 is a virus first identified in monkey cells, and now its parts are used as a molecular biology tool. The SV40 virus was not used to produce the Covid-19 vaccines; only one part was used (a sequence called a promoter).

For some time, there was concern about the SV40 virus (not the promoter). The whole SV40 virus was once suspected of causing cancer in humans because of some concerning lab studies. In the 1960s, it was discovered SV40 had contaminated some of the polio vaccines because it was present in the cell cultures used to make them. However, we now know even the virus itself is not a concern—studies following polio-vaccinated people for decades found no difference in their risk of cancer compared with those who never received SV40 virus-containing vaccines.

If the virus itself doesn’t cause cancer, there’s no reason to be concerned about small fragments of the promoter.

Bottom line
There are trace quantities of DNA fragments in our mRNA vaccines. But our amazing human immune systems know what to do.

Regardless, we have been tracking the safety of Covid-19 vaccines at unprecedented levels across the globe for more than three years. Scientific evidence from the lab, clinical trials, and epidemiological real-world data continue to verify a highly favorable profile of benefit to risk of Covid-19 vaccines.

Covid-19 vaccines save lives. Unfortunately, many people—including 8,288 Floridians in 2023 alone—continue to lose their lives to Covid-19. Don’t let rumors get in the way of protecting yourself and living a healthy life.


https://open.substack.com/pub/yourlocal ... dium=email

I'll be... and here I thought Substack (some guy on the internet) wasn't acceptable on fanlax. Guess if it advances the narrative...

Hypocrites.

CU88 isn't the one who said that. That was yours truly.

You, on the other hand CHAMPIONED Substack....because it's owned by 'different 1%ers" than BigMedia is. So you're the one who should listen to every word written here, what with it being hip and edgy medical advice.

Have some news to share, though: I finally got to have lunch with Fauci. Turns out, he's not trying to kill Americans and their families.

Apparently, you said something rude about him at a dinner party you were at, Tech. And it got back to him.

So Fauci is only plotting to kill YOU and YOUR family....the rest of us are just collateral damage.

[DMac]

Actually, our long time member and poster CU88 has said nary a word on the subject.
CU88a, on the other hand, has (this not the first time CU88 has been dragged in having
never said a word on the subject. Attention to detail, fellas.

[a fan]

Actually, our long time member and poster CU88 has said nary a word on the subject.
CU88a, on the other hand, has (this not the first time CU88 has been dragged in having
never said a word on the subject. Attention to detail, fellas.

Ah, I always assumed that was the same person.....using a different account for some reason. My bad.

[jhu72]

... it is.

[DMac]

You're sure of that?
If so, my bad.