All Things Environment

[tech37]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

They'll say I shouldn't encourage you C&S but this post is a classic.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

Really glad you stopped flossing and going to the dentist because eventually your teeth are going to fall out. You saved time and money.

[Kismet]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

They'll say I shouldn't encourage you C&S but this post is a classic.

Yep classic tripe. Just another dick ranting about weeds.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

Here you go cradle! Your teeth will eventually fall out so stop wasting your time!

[holmes435]

Have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol? Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation of water? Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

If you really want to get into the weeds, sometimes the calculus is the only thing holding the teeth in the mouth. You can literally pluck them out with your fingers. Poverty and drugs are not a pretty thing.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol? Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation of water? Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

If you really want to get into the weeds, sometimes the calculus is the only thing holding the teeth in the mouth. You can literally pluck them out with your fingers. Poverty and drugs are not a pretty thing.

Your teeth are going to do what your teeth are going to do!

[cradleandshoot]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

They'll say I shouldn't encourage you C&S but this post is a classic.

Yep classic tripe. Just another dick ranting about weeds.

George Carlin makes more sense than any of the rotgut you try and brainwash people over. George is 100% spot on. The planet needs to be saved from environmental terrorists like you. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ and that's all it has ever been about. Why dont you go out and find a polar bear to hug. Let us know how that works out for you.

[holmes435]

George Carlin makes more sense than any of the rotgut you try and brainwash people over. George is 100% spot on. The planet needs to be saved from environmental terrorists like you. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ and that's all it has ever been about. Why dont you go out and find a polar bear to hug. Let us know how that works out for you.

Well, you're right about one thing, it's all about $$$$$$$$

Half of the top 10 biggest companies are energy companies. We've been raping and pillaging Earth for $$$$ since before the industrial revolution. Now it's all automated and going a thousand miles an hour. We're trying to squeeze every last drop of cash out of the natural resources we've been given, with little regard for consequences until only recently.

If you can't see what we've done and are doing to this planet, then that's on you.

[CU88]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

They'll say I shouldn't encourage you C&S but this post is a classic.

Yep classic tripe. Just another dick ranting about weeds.

George Carlin makes more sense than any of the rotgut you try and brainwash people over. George is 100% spot on. The planet needs to be saved from environmental terrorists like you. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ and that's all it has ever been about. Why dont you go out and find a polar bear to hug. Let us know how that works out for you.

Here is a video clip of Carlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaFJaiAx4U

The planet will be here, humans will be long gone and there will be no sign of us in a million years; it is a self correcting system.

[cradleandshoot]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

They'll say I shouldn't encourage you C&S but this post is a classic.

Yep classic tripe. Just another dick ranting about weeds.

George Carlin makes more sense than any of the rotgut you try and brainwash people over. George is 100% spot on. The planet needs to be saved from environmental terrorists like you. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ and that's all it has ever been about. Why dont you go out and find a polar bear to hug. Let us know how that works out for you.

Here is a video clip of Carlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaFJaiAx4U

The planet will be here, humans will be long gone and there will be no sign of us in a million years; it is a self correcting system.

My hope is that Kiz, 72 and yourself all skip into the artic hand in hand looking for a polar bear to hug. Let us know how it works out for you. George Carlin also makes more sense than you do. How many trillions do you want to steal from the American people to save the planet? It never ceases to amaze me how all the solutions you weeds put forth always dovetail so very nicely with the pet projects the environmental whackjobs are in favor of. The vegans don't want anybody to eat meat. The alternative anticoal folks don't want anybody using any energy source they disagree with. Is it just a coincidence the solutions fit the political agenda of the most extreme far left environmental whack jobs. Do something positive to save the planet CU. Grab yourself a garbage bag and go around your neighborhood and pick up trash. The planet does not need your help or your attempts to steal taxpayer money funding your dreams. If you want to save the planet write out a check and symbolically save a polar bear.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

They'll say I shouldn't encourage you C&S but this post is a classic.

Yep classic tripe. Just another dick ranting about weeds.

George Carlin makes more sense than any of the rotgut you try and brainwash people over. George is 100% spot on. The planet needs to be saved from environmental terrorists like you. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ and that's all it has ever been about. Why dont you go out and find a polar bear to hug. Let us know how that works out for you.

Here is a video clip of Carlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaFJaiAx4U

The planet will be here, humans will be long gone and there will be no sign of us in a million years; it is a self correcting system.

My hope is that Kiz, 72 and yourself all skip into the artic hand in hand looking for a polar bear to hug. Let us know how it works out for you. George Carlin also makes more sense than you do. How many trillions do you want to steal from the American people to save the planet? It never ceases to amaze me how all the solutions you weeds put forth always dovetail so very nicely with the pet projects the environmental whackjobs are in favor of. The vegans don't want anybody to eat meat. The alternative anticoal folks don't want anybody using any energy source they disagree with. Is it just a coincidence the solutions fit the political agenda of the most extreme far left environmental whack jobs. Do something positive to save the planet CU. Grab yourself a garbage bag and go around your neighborhood and pick up trash. The planet does not need your help or your attempts to steal taxpayer money funding your dreams. If you want to save the planet write out a check and symbolically save a polar bear.

Ignore it

[CU88]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

They'll say I shouldn't encourage you C&S but this post is a classic.

Yep classic tripe. Just another dick ranting about weeds.

George Carlin makes more sense than any of the rotgut you try and brainwash people over. George is 100% spot on. The planet needs to be saved from environmental terrorists like you. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ and that's all it has ever been about. Why dont you go out and find a polar bear to hug. Let us know how that works out for you.

Here is a video clip of Carlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaFJaiAx4U

The planet will be here, humans will be long gone and there will be no sign of us in a million years; it is a self correcting system.

My hope is that Kiz, 72 and yourself all skip into the artic hand in hand looking for a polar bear to hug. Let us know how it works out for you. George Carlin also makes more sense than you do. How many trillions do you want to steal from the American people to save the planet? It never ceases to amaze me how all the solutions you weeds put forth always dovetail so very nicely with the pet projects the environmental whackjobs are in favor of. The vegans don't want anybody to eat meat. The alternative anticoal folks don't want anybody using any energy source they disagree with. Is it just a coincidence the solutions fit the political agenda of the most extreme far left environmental whack jobs. Do something positive to save the planet CU. Grab yourself a garbage bag and go around your neighborhood and pick up trash. The planet does not need your help or your attempts to steal taxpayer money funding your dreams. If you want to save the planet write out a check and symbolically save a polar bear.

Classic.

You obviously didn't watch that video or read what I wrote. If you did both, then you have zero comprehension abilities.

[Peter Brown]

Humans are wired to survive (thrive even).

As liberals decide to have fewer babies (science supports this theory) and conservatives keep producing, there will be a natural darwinian devolution of liberals' impact on society writ large (not either-or, but a slow-at-first reduction then a tsunami in about 50 years).

The tipping point is today, hence the daily histrionics (free speech suppression, physically assaulting conservatives, etc...) and societal hail-mary's (the rise of socialism by the Democratic Party). The America election in 2020 is so critical to the continued greatness of America and helps explain why some embrace Trump who would ordinarily not care for the man. There can be no doubt how critical this election is to your children and grandchildren; it has zero to do with Trump and everything to do with whether you get to live in a free country or not with them. They will be fine; darwinism assures that. It's the next 20 years that's at stake.

[CU88]

Humans are wired to survive (thrive even).

As liberals decide to have fewer babies (science supports this theory) and conservatives keep producing, there will be a natural darwinian devolution of liberals' impact on society writ large (not either-or, but a slow-at-first reduction then a tsunami in about 50 years).

The tipping point is today, hence the daily histrionics (free speech suppression, physically assaulting conservatives, etc...) and societal hail-mary's (the rise of socialism by the Democratic Party). The America election in 2020 is so critical to the continued greatness of America and helps explain why some embrace Trump who would ordinarily not care for the man. There can be no doubt how critical this election is to your children and grandchildren; it has zero to do with Trump and everything to do with whether you get to live in a free country or not with them. They will be fine; darwinism assures that. It's the next 20 years that's at stake.

Your lack of scientific understanding clearly shows with this post.

[MDlaxfan76]

Humans are wired to survive (thrive even).

As liberals decide to have fewer babies (science supports this theory) and conservatives keep producing, there will be a natural darwinian devolution of liberals' impact on society writ large (not either-or, but a slow-at-first reduction then a tsunami in about 50 years).

The tipping point is today, hence the daily histrionics (free speech suppression, physically assaulting conservatives, etc...) and societal hail-mary's (the rise of socialism by the Democratic Party). The America election in 2020 is so critical to the continued greatness of America and helps explain why some embrace Trump who would ordinarily not care for the man. There can be no doubt how critical this election is to your children and grandchildren; it has zero to do with Trump and everything to do with whether you get to live in a free country or not with them. They will be fine; darwinism assures that. It's the next 20 years that's at stake.

Please provide the 'science' behind that claim.

Birth rate is driven by economics.
Poor people with high early death rates have more children. When economies, standards of living, and educational opportunities improve, birth rates decline.

The demographics in the US, a very wealthy nation, will continue to rapidly move from those identifying as "White Christian" to a far more diverse population than when we were kids. Likewise, this population will have more and more access to education, and educational attainment will continue to be disproportionately rewarded.

If "conservatives" want to compete ideologically it needs to be on the basis of the attractiveness of their ideas, not their demographic fears and bigotries.

Right now, the Trumpist GOP is competing on the latter, a death rattle IMO.

The only path for them to maintain a dominant, demographic position in the US is some form of authoritarian fascism. The opposite of what you profess as a goal "a free country".

I'm a lifelong R, a fiscal conservative, someone who believes in checks and balances, individual rights, etc. I favor slow, careful progress not populism and 'revolution'. But I don't buy for a moment that we need to hate Dems and be knee jerk afraid of 'socialism' (Social Security, Medicare, free public education, etc).

I want to see Trumpism thoroughly, even ignominiously, defeated, so that actual "conservatives" can again compete rationally on the basis of their ideas, not their fears and bigotries. Sooner the better.

[cradleandshoot]

Humans are wired to survive (thrive even).

As liberals decide to have fewer babies (science supports this theory) and conservatives keep producing, there will be a natural darwinian devolution of liberals' impact on society writ large (not either-or, but a slow-at-first reduction then a tsunami in about 50 years).

The tipping point is today, hence the daily histrionics (free speech suppression, physically assaulting conservatives, etc...) and societal hail-mary's (the rise of socialism by the Democratic Party). The America election in 2020 is so critical to the continued greatness of America and helps explain why some embrace Trump who would ordinarily not care for the man. There can be no doubt how critical this election is to your children and grandchildren; it has zero to do with Trump and everything to do with whether you get to live in a free country or not with them. They will be fine; darwinism assures that. It's the next 20 years that's at stake.

Please provide the 'science' behind that claim.

Birth rate is driven by economics.
Poor people with high early death rates have more children. When economies, standards of living, and educational opportunities improve, birth rates decline.

The demographics in the US, a very wealthy nation, will continue to rapidly move from those identifying as "White Christian" to a far more diverse population than when we were kids. Likewise, this population will have more and more access to education, and educational attainment will continue to be disproportionately rewarded.

If "conservatives" want to compete ideologically it needs to be on the basis of the attractiveness of their ideas, not their demographic fears and bigotries.

Right now, the Trumpist GOP is competing on the latter, a death rattle IMO.

The only path for them to maintain a dominant, demographic position in the US is some form of authoritarian fascism. The opposite of what you profess as a goal "a free country".

I'm a lifelong R, a fiscal conservative, someone who believes in checks and balances, individual rights, etc. I favor slow, careful progress not populism and 'revolution'. But I don't buy for a moment that we need to hate Dems and be knee jerk afraid of 'socialism' (Social Security, Medicare, free public education, etc).

I want to see Trumpism thoroughly, even ignominiously, defeated, so that actual "conservatives" can again compete rationally on the basis of their ideas, not their fears and bigotries. Sooner the better.

I'm a lifelong R, a fiscal conservative, someone who believes in checks and balances, individual rights, etc. I favor slow, careful progress not populism and 'revolution'.

Ya know for a lifelong republican you have never once ever mentioned any of your idols in the republican party. I would hazard a guess that a lifelong Rockefeller RINO such as yourself would have SOME actual republican that you may have supported at some time in your life. Since you never speak of any such admiration for any republican I can only guess that outside of Abe Lincoln you have no republicans you admire. I am disgusted by all republicans but I can think of 3 that I respect... Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and Jack Kemp. What say you there our resident RINO suckup? Be honest now, some of your suckup friends here might even hurt your feelings and criticize you for being honest.

[cradleandshoot]

Humans are wired to survive (thrive even).

As liberals decide to have fewer babies (science supports this theory) and conservatives keep producing, there will be a natural darwinian devolution of liberals' impact on society writ large (not either-or, but a slow-at-first reduction then a tsunami in about 50 years).

The tipping point is today, hence the daily histrionics (free speech suppression, physically assaulting conservatives, etc...) and societal hail-mary's (the rise of socialism by the Democratic Party). The America election in 2020 is so critical to the continued greatness of America and helps explain why some embrace Trump who would ordinarily not care for the man. There can be no doubt how critical this election is to your children and grandchildren; it has zero to do with Trump and everything to do with whether you get to live in a free country or not with them. They will be fine; darwinism assures that. It's the next 20 years that's at stake.

Your lack of scientific understanding clearly shows with this post.

Why don't you go and hug a polar bear and get back to us how the experience works for you. If the planet needs to be saved you are the last person in this world I want saving it.

[cradleandshoot]

Stunning

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wildfire ... 3931d01baf

But o d and the r's dont care about any of this...

Yeah and you FLP weeds are going to save the planet. Are you wearing your Captain planet cape CU? If saving our planet is to be handed over to weeds such as you the planet as George Carlin would say is already F****ed. I'm going to eat a juicy cheese burger and step outside and fart my brains out. Planet earth will do what it is going to do when, where and how it wants. No matter how many trillions of dollars you weeds want to throw at the UN. You all are nothing more than a bunch of lying con artists and grifters trying steal as much money from the American people as you can. What the planet really needs is to be saved from people such as yourself. Do your planet a real favor. Why don't you take a walk around your blockwith a garbage bag and go pick up trash.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ge ... &FORM=VIRE I can never post this enough. GO GEORGE.

They'll say I shouldn't encourage you C&S but this post is a classic.

Yep classic tripe. Just another dick ranting about weeds.

George Carlin makes more sense than any of the rotgut you try and brainwash people over. George is 100% spot on. The planet needs to be saved from environmental terrorists like you. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ and that's all it has ever been about. Why dont you go out and find a polar bear to hug. Let us know how that works out for you.

Here is a video clip of Carlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaFJaiAx4U

The planet will be here, humans will be long gone and there will be no sign of us in a million years; it is a self correcting system.

My hope is that Kiz, 72 and yourself all skip into the artic hand in hand looking for a polar bear to hug. Let us know how it works out for you. George Carlin also makes more sense than you do. How many trillions do you want to steal from the American people to save the planet? It never ceases to amaze me how all the solutions you weeds put forth always dovetail so very nicely with the pet projects the environmental whackjobs are in favor of. The vegans don't want anybody to eat meat. The alternative anticoal folks don't want anybody using any energy source they disagree with. Is it just a coincidence the solutions fit the political agenda of the most extreme far left environmental whack jobs. Do something positive to save the planet CU. Grab yourself a garbage bag and go around your neighborhood and pick up trash. The planet does not need your help or your attempts to steal taxpayer money funding your dreams. If you want to save the planet write out a check and symbolically save a polar bear.

Classic.

You obviously didn't watch that video or read what I wrote. If you did both, then you have zero comprehension abilities.

I don't read tripe from environmental terrorists... sorry. Go find yourself some stupid young college cumquat to brainwash.

[MDlaxfan76]

Humans are wired to survive (thrive even).

As liberals decide to have fewer babies (science supports this theory) and conservatives keep producing, there will be a natural darwinian devolution of liberals' impact on society writ large (not either-or, but a slow-at-first reduction then a tsunami in about 50 years).

The tipping point is today, hence the daily histrionics (free speech suppression, physically assaulting conservatives, etc...) and societal hail-mary's (the rise of socialism by the Democratic Party). The America election in 2020 is so critical to the continued greatness of America and helps explain why some embrace Trump who would ordinarily not care for the man. There can be no doubt how critical this election is to your children and grandchildren; it has zero to do with Trump and everything to do with whether you get to live in a free country or not with them. They will be fine; darwinism assures that. It's the next 20 years that's at stake.

Please provide the 'science' behind that claim.

Birth rate is driven by economics.
Poor people with high early death rates have more children. When economies, standards of living, and educational opportunities improve, birth rates decline.

The demographics in the US, a very wealthy nation, will continue to rapidly move from those identifying as "White Christian" to a far more diverse population than when we were kids. Likewise, this population will have more and more access to education, and educational attainment will continue to be disproportionately rewarded.

If "conservatives" want to compete ideologically it needs to be on the basis of the attractiveness of their ideas, not their demographic fears and bigotries.

Right now, the Trumpist GOP is competing on the latter, a death rattle IMO.

The only path for them to maintain a dominant, demographic position in the US is some form of authoritarian fascism. The opposite of what you profess as a goal "a free country".

I'm a lifelong R, a fiscal conservative, someone who believes in checks and balances, individual rights, etc. I favor slow, careful progress not populism and 'revolution'. But I don't buy for a moment that we need to hate Dems and be knee jerk afraid of 'socialism' (Social Security, Medicare, free public education, etc).

I want to see Trumpism thoroughly, even ignominiously, defeated, so that actual "conservatives" can again compete rationally on the basis of their ideas, not their fears and bigotries. Sooner the better.

I'm a lifelong R, a fiscal conservative, someone who believes in checks and balances, individual rights, etc. I favor slow, careful progress not populism and 'revolution'.

Ya know for a lifelong republican you have never once ever mentioned any of your idols in the republican party. I would hazard a guess that a lifelong Rockefeller RINO such as yourself would have SOME actual republican that you may have supported at some time in your life. Since you never speak of any such admiration for any republican I can only guess that outside of Abe Lincoln you have no republicans you admire. I am disgusted by all republicans but I can think of 3 that I respect... Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and Jack Kemp. What say you there our resident RINO suckup? Be honest now, some of your suckup friends here might even hurt your feelings and criticize you for being honest.

Funny, those 3: Reagan, Kemp, Dole, were certainly among those who I, on net, admired and supported. Certainly HW Bush as well.
Here in my state, Senator Mac Mathias would fit my definition of someone I was very enthusiastic about in his day.

None were "idols". I'm just not the idolatry sort.

I was in the stands for Reagan's two Inaugurations, right across from them...pretty cool. I didn't vote for either major party's candidate in '80 (like '16), Reagan's rhetoric worried me, but I warmed up to him with time. Personality was a big plus, his love and respect of his wife was palpable, his love of country unquestionable. But not an idol, not someone to be put on a pedestal.

I never met Dole or Reagan in person, but Jack Kemp's son was a fraternity brother, QB of our college team, and I met Jack a bunch of times. I liked his policy views a lot, felt he was willing to think outside of the standard box, a more cerebral guy than one might expect from the typical ex football star. On the other hand, he had the way of some politicians of seeming to always being looking past you to the next person who might be more important. That was unsettling, but I liked his policy ideas. And his son.

I hear from friends who know W that he was quite the opposite in small groups, you felt you had his undivided attention. Smarter guy than many gave him credit for being, they say. Certainly not perfect, though. I did very much like his instinct around "compassionate conservatism" and I liked very much how he handled 9-11, but I think he over-trusted his VP...

I was an enthusiastic supporter of Mitt Romney's '12 campaign as he and my wife worked at Bain in the same era and I'd followed his career closely as a result. I'm frustrated with him right now.

Today, I strongly support our GOP Governor, Larry Hogan, who enjoys a 75% approval rating in very blue Maryland (Trump is at 37%). I've met him a few times, but can't say that I know him well...but he's hired significantly better than his predecessors and they've done a good job. I don't agree with every policy position, but I do think he's done a good job of managing the state restraining a very D legislature, yet managing to keep the population enthusiastic. A lot of that is personal style, just not being a jerk. His dad, btw, was the first GOP Congressman on the Judiciary Committee who called for impeachment of Nixon.

I know our prior GOP Governor and former Congressman Bob Ehrlich better as he was a class ahead of me in HS. I've always enjoyed Bobby, haven't always 100% agreed with his policy views, but fundamentally a good guy. Unlike Hogan, however, Bobby was more directly confrontational, and as result, actually accomplished less. He lost to O'Malley (who I really didn't like!) and was one term, whereas Hogan will have had 8 years of sound, conservative management.

Of the current GOP crew in Congress I hold out some hope for a few souls, but most of those who I felt were first class folks have been pushed out of the party by Trumpism, or in McCain's case, deceased. Same for those who were less 'politicians' than public servants ala Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice or intellectuals like George Will, etc.

Some (like some Dems, IMO) are 'deplorable' in their degree of partisanship, putting their partisan interest over country. And a few are flat out evil folks, period. I'd have said the same for some of the southern Dems in my youth.

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Humans are wired to survive (thrive even).

As liberals decide to have fewer babies (science supports this theory) and conservatives keep producing, there will be a natural darwinian devolution of liberals' impact on society writ large (not either-or, but a slow-at-first reduction then a tsunami in about 50 years).

The tipping point is today, hence the daily histrionics (free speech suppression, physically assaulting conservatives, etc...) and societal hail-mary's (the rise of socialism by the Democratic Party). The America election in 2020 is so critical to the continued greatness of America and helps explain why some embrace Trump who would ordinarily not care for the man. There can be no doubt how critical this election is to your children and grandchildren; it has zero to do with Trump and everything to do with whether you get to live in a free country or not with them. They will be fine; darwinism assures that. It's the next 20 years that's at stake.

Please provide the 'science' behind that claim.

Birth rate is driven by economics.
Poor people with high early death rates have more children. When economies, standards of living, and educational opportunities improve, birth rates decline.

The demographics in the US, a very wealthy nation, will continue to rapidly move from those identifying as "White Christian" to a far more diverse population than when we were kids. Likewise, this population will have more and more access to education, and educational attainment will continue to be disproportionately rewarded.

If "conservatives" want to compete ideologically it needs to be on the basis of the attractiveness of their ideas, not their demographic fears and bigotries.

Right now, the Trumpist GOP is competing on the latter, a death rattle IMO.

The only path for them to maintain a dominant, demographic position in the US is some form of authoritarian fascism. The opposite of what you profess as a goal "a free country".

I'm a lifelong R, a fiscal conservative, someone who believes in checks and balances, individual rights, etc. I favor slow, careful progress not populism and 'revolution'. But I don't buy for a moment that we need to hate Dems and be knee jerk afraid of 'socialism' (Social Security, Medicare, free public education, etc).

I want to see Trumpism thoroughly, even ignominiously, defeated, so that actual "conservatives" can again compete rationally on the basis of their ideas, not their fears and bigotries. Sooner the better.

I'm a lifelong R, a fiscal conservative, someone who believes in checks and balances, individual rights, etc. I favor slow, careful progress not populism and 'revolution'.

Ya know for a lifelong republican you have never once ever mentioned any of your idols in the republican party. I would hazard a guess that a lifelong Rockefeller RINO such as yourself would have SOME actual republican that you may have supported at some time in your life. Since you never speak of any such admiration for any republican I can only guess that outside of Abe Lincoln you have no republicans you admire. I am disgusted by all republicans but I can think of 3 that I respect... Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and Jack Kemp. What say you there our resident RINO suckup? Be honest now, some of your suckup friends here might even hurt your feelings and criticize you for being honest.

Funny, those 3: Reagan, Kemp, Dole, were certainly among those who I, on net, admired and supported. Certainly HW Bush as well.
Here in my state, Senator Mac Mathias would fit my definition of someone I was very enthusiastic about in his day.

None were "idols". I'm just not the idolatry sort.

I was in the stands for Reagan's two Inaugurations, right across from them...pretty cool. I didn't vote for either major party's candidate in '80 (like '16), Reagan's rhetoric worried me, but I warmed up to him with time. Personality was a big plus, his love and respect of his wife was palpable, his love of country unquestionable. But not an idol, not someone to be put on a pedestal.

I never met Dole or Reagan in person, but Jack Kemp's son was a fraternity brother, QB of our college team, and I met Jack a bunch of times. I liked his policy views a lot, felt he was willing to think outside of the standard box, a more cerebral guy than one might expect from the typical ex football star. On the other hand, he had the way of some politicians of seeming to always being looking past you to the next person who might be more important. That was unsettling, but I liked his policy ideas. And his son.

I hear from friends who know W that he was quite the opposite in small groups, you felt you had his undivided attention. Smarter guy than many gave him credit for being, they say. Certainly not perfect, though. I did very much like his instinct around "compassionate conservatism" and I liked very much how he handled 9-11, but I think he over-trusted his VP...

I was an enthusiastic supporter of Mitt Romney's '12 campaign as he and my wife worked at Bain in the same era and I'd followed his career closely as a result. I'm frustrated with him right now.

Today, I strongly support our GOP Governor, Larry Hogan, who enjoys a 75% approval rating in very blue Maryland (Trump is at 37%). I've met him a few times, but can't say that I know him well...but he's hired significantly better than his predecessors and they've done a good job. I don't agree with every policy position, but I do think he's done a good job of managing the state restraining a very D legislature, yet managing to keep the population enthusiastic. A lot of that is personal style, just not being a jerk. His dad, btw, was the first GOP Congressman on the Judiciary Committee who called for impeachment of Nixon.

I know our prior GOP Governor and former Congressman Bob Ehrlich better as he was a class ahead of me in HS. I've always enjoyed Bobby, haven't always 100% agreed with his policy views, but fundamentally a good guy. Unlike Hogan, however, Bobby was more directly confrontational, and as result, actually accomplished less.

Of the current GOP crew in Congress I hold out some hope for a few souls, but most of those who I felt were first class folks have been pushed out of the party by Trumpism, or in McCain's case, deceased. Same for those who were less 'politicians' than public servants ala Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice or intellectuals like George Will, etc.

Some (like some Dems, IMO) are 'deplorable' in their degree of partisanship, putting their partisan interest over country. And a few are flat out evil folks, period. I'd have said the same for some of the southern Dems in my youth.

You realize of course that Mac Mathias was a liberal. I voted for him.