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Laxsmitty wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:05 am First point and last point answer each other. It’s well known that Petro has a habit of destroying a goalies confidence. Nothing has changed. Also well known, he plays endless head games with the goalies ruining their ability to perform. Petro picks a starter based on a popularity contest rather than what’s best for the success of the team and how well a goalie can run the defense. He should use bench more because no under armor goalie would play for Petro knowing his reputation for being notoriously hard to play for. The problem isn’t selection necessarily, it’s coaching
Don't let facts get in the way of a good story:
Since Bassett started for 3 years - I assume you must be referring to the period of 2014-now. During that time period I believe two UA goalies have played or will play for Petro - Will Ryan and now Marcille. Also let's look at those years - one is conspicuous (with extenuating circumstances) - the others are remarkable for outstanding loyalty which should boost a goalie's confidence
2014 - Schneider plays 950 out of the 970 minutes - 54% Save percentage
2015 - Schneider plays 971 out of the 1092 minutes - actually is replaced by Ryan for 2 games as save percentage dips way below 50 - gets his act together and plays well in the end of the season to help out a FF run - pretty good goalie management to me
2016 - Turnbaugh - 896 minutes out of 908 - 47% save
2017 - OK here it is - the goalie dumpster fire and likely some bad management - still some extenuating circumstances - Hopkins was decimated by injuries and the Tinney thing in 2016 and hope was blooming eternal in Homewood - Reed was back for a final year - Supinski was back - Tinney of course - Boy I wish I could call up HA80's and Doc's posts on Laxpower after starting 4-0 especially after the OT win against Loyola and dope slapping UNC in Chapel Hill. Logan had 16 saves and 5 GAs against Carolina. Then the cable was cut on that elevator to the Top and '17 rapidly became a disaster. Whatever the issues - it WAS a logical thought on Petro's part before the season that if he got above 47% in goalie play - he had the looks of a good team. He probably didn't know at the time he had lost Foley, Reed and Supinski would never really play etc. etc. I was at the Towson game freezing my you know what off and truly had the thought that switching goalies at the half was not the answer to the team's issues - it was the offensive half of the field where problems lay - Oh well
2018 - Turnbaugh plays all but 5 of the 1032 minutes - only gets his save percentage barely above 50 - still BIG 10 champs and had Duke at least thinking in the quarters
2019 - Darby plays virtually every minute until the 1st round playoff game where he allows 6 goals on 9 shots in the first 12 minutes to a team that averaged under 10 goals for 60 minutes - not going to proclaim they were all his fault but a switch had to be made

I would love to hear more about the head games and what goalies should have played instead of the ones that did. While I think you could easily make the case that Darby was stuck with for too long - Petro was certainly in a unenviable position with goalie - Giacalone had left the team and I remember posts thinking he was not going to be back. Gainey was a frosh and Darby was the only goalie that had been there in '18. I really have a hard time believing that guy - who hates to lose - would not play someone he thought was better at that position for some unknown reasons.
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Have to wonder if they would have gotten by Cuse that year in the FF rematch,
Nah.
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Laxsmitty wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:05 am First point and last point answer each other. It’s well known that Petro has a habit of destroying a goalies confidence. Nothing has changed. Also well known, he plays endless head games with the goalies ruining their ability to perform. Petro picks a starter based on a popularity contest rather than what’s best for the success of the team and how well a goalie can run the defense. He should use bench more because no under armor goalie would play for Petro knowing his reputation for being notoriously hard to play for. The problem isn’t selection necessarily, it’s coaching
Insane, unsubstantiated post that represents the worst of what this forum can be. 51 covered a lot of it already but I will add that Hopkins literally just got a commitment from IL's #3 goalie in the 2021 class, Andy Demopoulous from Darien. He will very likely be Hop's second UA goalie in three years (Marcille), and the third in six years—Giacalone was UA too. Alex Gainey was not very far off either. So basically they're getting one every other year. Any more than that and you could end up with a Rode/Burkinshaw situation where one guy ends up transferring.

Petro did everything he could for the goalie last year—he publicly and proudly stood by him in the media multiple times both before and during the season. He stuck with him longer than what some probably would have preferred. Ridiculous to say he played head games/destroyed his confidence. He did the complete opposite.
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HopFan16 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:57 am
Laxsmitty wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:05 am First point and last point answer each other. It’s well known that Petro has a habit of destroying a goalies confidence. Nothing has changed. Also well known, he plays endless head games with the goalies ruining their ability to perform. Petro picks a starter based on a popularity contest rather than what’s best for the success of the team and how well a goalie can run the defense. He should use bench more because no under armor goalie would play for Petro knowing his reputation for being notoriously hard to play for. The problem isn’t selection necessarily, it’s coaching
Insane, unsubstantiated post that represents the worst of what this forum can be. 51 covered a lot of it already but I will add that Hopkins literally just got a commitment from IL's #3 goalie in the 2021 class, Andy Demopoulous from Darien. He will very likely be Hop's second UA goalie in three years (Marcille), and the third in six years—Giacalone was UA too. Alex Gainey was not very far off either. So basically they're getting one every other year. Any more than that and you could end up with a Rode/Burkinshaw situation where one guy ends up transferring.

Petro did everything he could for the goalie last year—he publicly and proudly stood by him in the media multiple times both before and during the season. He stuck with him longer than what some probably would have preferred. Ridiculous to say he played head games/destroyed his confidence. He did the complete opposite.
xanders is doing a decade in review for his recruiting lists. I'd love to see a chart with each schools ratio of underarmour team members or top 100 recruits to ncaa tournament wins over the decade. We certainly have to be there with harvard among the worst.
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Hop 16. I would add he added LQ to the staff. Folks who know LQ aren’t going to buy it either.
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OCanada wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:52 pm Hop 16. I would add he added LQ to the staff. Folks who know LQ aren’t going to buy it either.
LQ told me he’d put a German Shepherd in goal if it could make a save.

True story. Witty guy.

But I’m really not sure how much of it is LQ’s call.
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WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:51 pm
OCanada wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:52 pm Hop 16. I would add he added LQ to the staff. Folks who know LQ aren’t going to buy it either.
LQ told me he’d put a German Shepherd in goal if it could make a save.

True story. Witty guy.

But I’m really not sure how much of it is LQ’s call.
A great moment from Larry Quinn’s radio career occurred nearly 20 years ago. A fellow Hopkins lacrosse alumnus was a guest on his broadcast of a Hopkins game. Unknown to Quinn or his guest, the mic stayed live during what was supposed to be a commercial break. The guest anxiously asked what Larry wanted to discuss during the guest segment. Quinn casually replied, “your playing career, what you’ve been doing since you left Hopkins, family ... ya know, cr*p like that.” :lol:

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Excellent choice! Tremendous atleticism, incredible focus, 2nd to none on GBs, clears are 100%.
Played lax with one of these guys for years...you aint beatin' 'em.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6P0DzVcpOY
Oh, and leave your cat at home.
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Hopkins scrimmages:

Your clear plastic bags will get felt up.

No filming.

Hopkins goons will be in the stands.

No using your eyes.

Anyone caught peeking will be escorted out of the stadium.
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Is Hopkins goons and oxymoron ?
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DMac wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:35 pm Excellent choice! Tremendous atleticism, incredible focus, 2nd to none on GBs, clears are 100%.
Played lax with one of these guys for years...you aint beatin' 'em.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6P0DzVcpOY
Oh, and leave your cat at home.
Can he play defense?
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DMac wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:35 pm Excellent choice! Tremendous atleticism, incredible focus, 2nd to none on GBs, clears are 100%.
Played lax with one of these guys for years...you aint beatin' 'em.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6P0DzVcpOY
Oh, and leave your cat at home.
GB machine , same with family lab , better yet was a friend's dog that had its eyes removed with eye sockets stitched shut due to some disease yet could still run down thrown balls by its senses. Was the most amazing thing Ive ever witnessed. Good dogs are wondrous animals that bring much joy
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Sagittarius A* wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:07 am
DMac wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:35 pm Excellent choice! Tremendous atleticism, incredible focus, 2nd to none on GBs, clears are 100%.
Played lax with one of these guys for years...you aint beatin' 'em.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6P0DzVcpOY
Oh, and leave your cat at home.
Can he play defense?
Can he play D???? You aint out runnin' him, faking him out, or wearing him out, will tell you that for certain. They're a little prone to penalities in that pant legs and socks seem to be an irresistable way of slowing their oppenent down, but all in all they're an asset to any team.
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stupefied wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:17 am
DMac wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:35 pm Excellent choice! Tremendous atleticism, incredible focus, 2nd to none on GBs, clears are 100%.
Played lax with one of these guys for years...you aint beatin' 'em.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6P0DzVcpOY
Oh, and leave your cat at home.
GB machine , same with family lab , better yet was a friend's dog that had its eyes removed with eye sockets stitched shut due to some disease yet could still run down thrown balls by its senses. Was the most amazing thing Ive ever witnessed. Good dogs are wondrous animals that bring much joy
Yes sir, Labs are mighty darn good too. Here's one warming up for a little GK play but I'd have to go with the GSD....just a little better protectors of the territory, ya know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlDybflYMxA
Any time I'd pick my stick up my guy would go nuts, head right to the door (we had a big yard...was a good idea to bring two balls too). I'd do what the guy in the video was doing but I'd be throwing that ball straight to the wood fence too. He'd grab that on the rebound whether it be thrown straight at the fence or as a bounce shot. Guy was tough to get one by and if you did, you weren't beating him to the GB. Crazy as it sounds, you can learn a lot about focus and intensity playing with a dog like that. Fun stuff.
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How do you define the five hole? Two of them?

Could be a permutation...
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stupefied wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:00 am Goaltending is tough and results can erratic, seen some good ones fluctuate . Obviously much depends on defense in front limiting high % shots as well as quality of opponents. JHU schedules the best and the skills of offensive players keeps expanding while rules in all sports keeps favoring offenses.

Prior to the three mentioned, Scher, Smith and Schwartzman were also posted solid numbers.. That's a long stretch of good goaltending for JHU so maybe you could have expected some reversion to mean. Recent results may be due to myriad of reasons. Wouldn't shock me if save % is over fifty this year
That's likely correct, however, as I posted back in LP days several times, ER crushed Hop's goalie recruiting IMO...I've chronicled the multiple very highly touted freshmen/soph tenders who were the first in their class to commit...to Hopkins, only to never produce much at all in college.

The new rules should work in Hopkins' favor as it'll prevent Dave from picking way too early.
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Is anyone planning on going to the scrimmages?
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Sagittarius A* wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:47 am Is anyone planning on going to the scrimmages?
Is there a second scrimmage on Feb. 1? The only one scheduled as of now is Jan. 25 vs. Marquette. Considering that High Point and Denver, two of our recent spring scrimmage opponents, both have actual games that weekend, we won't be playing them. Perhaps it'll be Harvard again, but it just hasn't been announced yet? In any event, to Wombat's point, the staff probably wouldn't mind if the stands were empty.
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HopFan16 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:44 pm
Sagittarius A* wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:47 am Is anyone planning on going to the scrimmages?
Is there a second scrimmage on Feb. 1? The only one scheduled as of now is Jan. 25 vs. Marquette. Considering that High Point and Denver, two of our recent spring scrimmage opponents, both have actual games that weekend, we won't be playing them. Perhaps it'll be Harvard again, but it just hasn't been announced yet? In any event, to Wombat's point, the staff probably wouldn't mind if the stands were empty.
If you do go, the staff of goons will enforce the “urinal rules”.

No talking, no peeking.
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HopFan16 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:44 pm Is there a second scrimmage on Feb. 1?
Usually the second scrimmage is away is it not? Haven't seen anything.
Sagittarius A* wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:47 am Is anyone planning on going to the scrimmages?
Completely weather dependent - if it is moderate (even considering January) I may very well mosey up. Snow - really cold - windy - likely pass and steel up for Towson. It's going to be hard with such a large freshmen class and unknown sophs (after Epstein and Zinn) to identify alot of folks with the jersey switching
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