"Pelosi was unreachable as she was masturbating to the impeachment documents."
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Re: The Politics of National Security
Thanks seacoaster, at least someone around here tries to by productive. The constant one-sided scoreboard thinking and projecting just gets old.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:56 amI think one answer to your question may be that Iran was baiting us. Their leadership surely knows that this Administration -- made up of substantial Obama critics -- is worried about its own Benghazi affair, and played out a little brinksmanship with the Administration. The result could now be a combination of exactly what Iran wanted (a violent, overplayed attack on Iranian sovereignty, useful as propaganda and leadership propping material) and what it least wanted (the death of a significant leadership figure), with the end result being an effort to martyr him and soak in as much Anti-American propaganda as is possible. My sense is that there was plenty of room left for diplomacy (e.g., actions short of a military option) before engaging in (what I do understand are responsive) acts of war.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:33 amWhat did Trump's Admin retaliation of Iran storming our embassy have to do with your take that he wanted this all along. Are you implying he staged Iran and their military leader to attack our embassy? I asked a serious question, and you played partisan politics.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:39 amWhat BS. Trump has been spoiling for this since he took office. Now he has got it. He just injected steroids into Bush's mistake!youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:43 am If the end-goal and prayers of the world by most people are for peace, then why would Iran and their military leaders try and shake down our embassy and those inside the green zone?
It seems we are more tolerant to give grace to the bad guys than our own country.
So the question now is whether this results in further escalation? Terrorist attacks on Western (and not only American) targets? I am skeptical there will be a positive return on our investment here. I am skeptical that the response was in proportion to the actions at and around our Embassy -- which in my view should be the guidepost for everything we do far afield, in dangerous places. I am not mourning the bad guys here, or otherwise singing their tune. I am asking whether, in a world already in difficult shape, with many variables I don't understand well enough, this was the proper response of a superpower committed, at least since 1945, to diplomacy and multilateral action before exercising a unilateral military response.
I hope this at least appears a little responsive to your question.
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What does that mean? I have no clue who is backing my mortgage or loans when I go to the bank?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/3 ... -by-Russia
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Stop. If you don’t know what you are talking about you should do some research. You think this is a good thing?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:43 pmWhat does that mean? I have no clue who is backing my mortgage or loans when I go to the bank?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/3 ... -by-Russia
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Re: The Politics of National Security
It was formed as a question...sheesh., who pis$ed in your wheaties this morning.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:46 pmStop. If you don’t know what you are talking about you should do some research.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:43 pmWhat does that mean? I have no clue who is backing my mortgage or loans when I go to the bank?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/3 ... -by-Russia
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Re: The Politics of National Security
Was our embassy droned? Did we take casualties?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:33 amWhat did Trump's Admin retaliation of Iran storming our embassy have to do with your take that he wanted this all along. Are you implying he staged Iran and their military leader to attack our embassy? I asked a serious question, and you played partisan politics.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:39 amWhat BS. Trump has been spoiling for this since he took office. Now he has got it. He just injected steroids into Bush's mistake!youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:43 am If the end-goal and prayers of the world by most people are for peace, then why would Iran and their military leaders try and shake down our embassy and those inside the green zone?
It seems we are more tolerant to give grace to the bad guys than our own country.
Note even close. They threw rocks. And we respond by assassinating a military leader? And then point to a piece of paper and say "he was on this list, so it's fine"
We've been in this stupid region for 50 freaking years, and Republican voters have learned nothing. Nothing.
You think we're going to send in more troops to the ME now? I do.
So much for old salt and VDH"s Bullsh*t evaluation of Trump's "new" strategy in the Middle East.
Headline on FoxNews: Republicans cheer, Dems fume....
Sweet.
Re: The Politics of National Security
To contribute I would have to put on my Vagina hat and see if I can emulate all the hypocritical snowflake babble you and your like are spewing...NOPE..seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:37 pm "Pelosi was unreachable as she was masturbating to the impeachment documents."
Nice 12 year old parachute job. Try to contribute something.
Re: The Politics of National Security
Just announced 3,000 more 82nd Airborne troops departing for Central Command area TODAY (this in addition to the 500 sent a few days ago meaning an entire Airborne brigade will be deployed in theater today)a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:48 pmWas our embassy droned? Did we take casualties?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:33 amWhat did Trump's Admin retaliation of Iran storming our embassy have to do with your take that he wanted this all along. Are you implying he staged Iran and their military leader to attack our embassy? I asked a serious question, and you played partisan politics.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:39 amWhat BS. Trump has been spoiling for this since he took office. Now he has got it. He just injected steroids into Bush's mistake!youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:43 am If the end-goal and prayers of the world by most people are for peace, then why would Iran and their military leaders try and shake down our embassy and those inside the green zone?
It seems we are more tolerant to give grace to the bad guys than our own country.
Note even close. They threw rocks. And we respond by assassinating a military leader? And then point to a piece of paper and say "he was on this list, so it's fine"
We've been in this stupid region for 50 freaking years, and Republican voters have learned nothing. Nothing.
You think we're going to send in more troops to the ME now? I do.
So much for old salt and VDH"s Bullsh*t evaluation of Trump's "new" strategy in the Middle East.
Headline on FoxNews: Republicans cheer, Dems fume....
Sweet.
Re: The Politics of National Security
There it is, doug. The same brilliant idea that got us in this stupid region in the first place.
We have millions of Americans who don't understand that fringe elements in the Middle East WANT to start a war.
That every time we send more troops and do stuff like Trump did yesterday yields another point in our enemies favor.
Right now, our Generals are looking at every US base and outpost, and asking "which of these are vulnerable to attack?" And they're getting ready to send more troops and hardware if they think it's needed.
Oh well. We'll never learn.
We have millions of Americans who don't understand that fringe elements in the Middle East WANT to start a war.
That every time we send more troops and do stuff like Trump did yesterday yields another point in our enemies favor.
Right now, our Generals are looking at every US base and outpost, and asking "which of these are vulnerable to attack?" And they're getting ready to send more troops and hardware if they think it's needed.
Oh well. We'll never learn.
Re: The Politics of National Security
Strange. I heard this last night, that the 82nd would be deploying immediately.Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:59 pmJust announced 3,000 more 82nd Airborne troops departing for Central Command area TODAY (this in addition to the 500 sent a few days ago meaning an entire Airborne brigade will be deployed in theater today)a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:48 pmWas our embassy droned? Did we take casualties?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:33 amWhat did Trump's Admin retaliation of Iran storming our embassy have to do with your take that he wanted this all along. Are you implying he staged Iran and their military leader to attack our embassy? I asked a serious question, and you played partisan politics.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:39 amWhat BS. Trump has been spoiling for this since he took office. Now he has got it. He just injected steroids into Bush's mistake!youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:43 am If the end-goal and prayers of the world by most people are for peace, then why would Iran and their military leaders try and shake down our embassy and those inside the green zone?
It seems we are more tolerant to give grace to the bad guys than our own country.
Note even close. They threw rocks. And we respond by assassinating a military leader? And then point to a piece of paper and say "he was on this list, so it's fine"
We've been in this stupid region for 50 freaking years, and Republican voters have learned nothing. Nothing.
You think we're going to send in more troops to the ME now? I do.
So much for old salt and VDH"s Bullsh*t evaluation of Trump's "new" strategy in the Middle East.
Headline on FoxNews: Republicans cheer, Dems fume....
Sweet.
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I am with you to an extent....your hindsight of them just throwing rocks seems a bit overzealous.....who would you call if bad guys are throwing rocks at your home or business....nobody, certainly not, you call the guys that can help you?a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:48 pmWas our embassy droned? Did we take casualties?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:33 amWhat did Trump's Admin retaliation of Iran storming our embassy have to do with your take that he wanted this all along. Are you implying he staged Iran and their military leader to attack our embassy? I asked a serious question, and you played partisan politics.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:39 amWhat BS. Trump has been spoiling for this since he took office. Now he has got it. He just injected steroids into Bush's mistake!youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:43 am If the end-goal and prayers of the world by most people are for peace, then why would Iran and their military leaders try and shake down our embassy and those inside the green zone?
It seems we are more tolerant to give grace to the bad guys than our own country.
Note even close. They threw rocks. And we respond by assassinating a military leader? And then point to a piece of paper and say "he was on this list, so it's fine"
We've been in this stupid region for 50 freaking years, and Republican voters have learned nothing. Nothing.
You think we're going to send in more troops to the ME now? I do.
So much for old salt and VDH"s Bullsh*t evaluation of Trump's "new" strategy in the Middle East.
Headline on FoxNews: Republicans cheer, Dems fume....
Sweet.
If you recall, I supported pulling out of Syria, Why?, for the same reason you express above.....nothing ever changes in this S-hole arena. It's almost like trying to talk on this thread...nobody ever seems to budge
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Re: The Politics of National Security
doug7779 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:52 pmTo contribute I would have to put on my Vagina hat and see if I can emulate all the hypocritical snowflake babble you and your like are spewing...NOPE..seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:37 pm "Pelosi was unreachable as she was masturbating to the impeachment documents."
Nice 12 year old parachute job. Try to contribute something.
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Seemed like your were making an equivalence. If accurate, do you believe this is a good or bad thing?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:47 pmIt was formed as a question...sheesh., who pis$ed in your wheaties this morning.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:46 pmStop. If you don’t know what you are talking about you should do some research.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:43 pmWhat does that mean? I have no clue who is backing my mortgage or loans when I go to the bank?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/3 ... -by-Russia
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Please answer my question. Do people that acquire loans thru lending institutions know who is backing their loan? I do not know the answer.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:13 pmSeemed like your were making an equivalence. If accurate, do you believe this is a good or bad thing?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:47 pmIt was formed as a question...sheesh., who pis$ed in your wheaties this morning.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:46 pmStop. If you don’t know what you are talking about you should do some research.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:43 pmWhat does that mean? I have no clue who is backing my mortgage or loans when I go to the bank?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/3 ... -by-Russia
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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How long have you been commonly referencing countries or regions as S-holes?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:08 pmI am with you to an extent....your hindsight of them just throwing rocks seems a bit overzealous.....who would you call if bad guys are throwing rocks at your home or business....nobody, certainly not, you call the guys that can help you?a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:48 pmWas our embassy droned? Did we take casualties?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:33 amWhat did Trump's Admin retaliation of Iran storming our embassy have to do with your take that he wanted this all along. Are you implying he staged Iran and their military leader to attack our embassy? I asked a serious question, and you played partisan politics.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:39 amWhat BS. Trump has been spoiling for this since he took office. Now he has got it. He just injected steroids into Bush's mistake!youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:43 am If the end-goal and prayers of the world by most people are for peace, then why would Iran and their military leaders try and shake down our embassy and those inside the green zone?
It seems we are more tolerant to give grace to the bad guys than our own country.
Note even close. They threw rocks. And we respond by assassinating a military leader? And then point to a piece of paper and say "he was on this list, so it's fine"
We've been in this stupid region for 50 freaking years, and Republican voters have learned nothing. Nothing.
You think we're going to send in more troops to the ME now? I do.
So much for old salt and VDH"s Bullsh*t evaluation of Trump's "new" strategy in the Middle East.
Headline on FoxNews: Republicans cheer, Dems fume....
Sweet.
If you recall, I supported pulling out of Syria, Why?, for the same reason you express above.....nothing ever changes in this S-hole arena. It's almost like trying to talk on this thread...nobody ever seems to budge
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I said arena, as in a place or scene of activity, debate, or conflict
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Companies and High Net Worth individuals often know who is providing the credit enhancement.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:16 pmPlease answer my question. Do people that acquire loans thru lending institutions know who is backing their loan? I do not know the answer.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:13 pmSeemed like your were making an equivalence. If accurate, do you believe this is a good or bad thing?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:47 pmIt was formed as a question...sheesh., who pis$ed in your wheaties this morning.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:46 pmStop. If you don’t know what you are talking about you should do some research.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:43 pmWhat does that mean? I have no clue who is backing my mortgage or loans when I go to the bank?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/3 ... -by-Russia
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I asked how long have you been using that term?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:20 pm I said arena, as in a place or scene of activity, debate, or conflict
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youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:16 pmPlease answer my question. Do people that acquire loans thru lending institutions know who is backing their loan? I do not know the answer.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:13 pmSeemed like your were making an equivalence. If accurate, do you believe this is a good or bad thing?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:47 pmIt was formed as a question...sheesh., who pis$ed in your wheaties this morning.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:46 pmStop. If you don’t know what you are talking about you should do some research.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:43 pmWhat does that mean? I have no clue who is backing my mortgage or loans when I go to the bank?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 pm https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/3 ... -by-Russia
HELL YES! No way Trump could not know this given the size of the loans. I though you were a business man.
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No clue, why?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:21 pmI asked how long have you been using that term?youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:20 pm I said arena, as in a place or scene of activity, debate, or conflict
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