ggait wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:09 pm
Do you know enough to substitute your judgement for the combat vets on the court panel who heard the 6 (not 30+) accusers relate the specific details of their accusations, & defend them under cross examination ?
I respect juries. The jury did what the jury did. I have not tried to investigate the details of Gallagher's case (which would obviously be impossible for me or you to do).
But, with good reason, these days you have to assume that anything coming out of Bone Spur's mouth is a lie. It is quite problematic, obviously, when POTUS completely lacks credibility on everything. On Gallagher and on anything else.
Doubly so when the issue at hand has been fanned as a cause celebre by the Fox News bots. Triple-ey so when Gallagher and his cute wife appear to be campaigning for a future career in conservative media. Like the recent appearance at Mar-a-Lago.
So one one side you have Trump, the Hannity crowd, and Gallagher's lawyer.
On the other side, you have the six SEALs in the squad, Adm. Green (SEAL commander), Adm. Gilday (chief of naval operations), and Richard Spencer (secretary of the Navy). Plus respected retired military like Gens. Barry McCaffrey and Jack Keane saying that Trump should butt the fork out of internal discipline and should let the Navy/SEALs deal with their own.
Easiest call possible who to believe.
Sheesh.
I'm not basing anything I post on Trump or FNC.
Just MSM sources, with more detail from Navy Times, Military Times & Stars and Stripes.
Navy Times had the most detail, from the start, to the point that the Judge bounced the first Prosecutor from the case for embedding a Web beacon in an email to the Navy Times reporter. That prompted the Judge to release Gallagher from pre-trial confinement in the Brig to less restrictive confinement.
The Navy SEALs did deal with their own. Chief Gallagher was acquitted by the Court on the major offenses. Trump actually changed little in the final outcome. The difference in retiring an E-7 vice E-6, something the Bureau for Correction of Naval Records would likely (imho) have done anyway, given the relative severity of the offense & the fact that pretrial confinemnt, allowed a jail time sentence (time served) for an offense which would likely have been disposed of (in isolation) via NJP.
During months of pre-trial confinemnt, Trump ordered Gallagher removed from solitary, so he could receive medical treatment.
Given the outcome, the pre-trial confinement was shown to be more punitive than warranted.
Gallagher retaining his Trident is purely honorific. He's now a political football. The MSM is out to ruin him for life, to spite Trump.
The TV Generals are more concerned about the 2 Army cases in which Trump interceded.
Adm Green has vowed to square away the SEALs. Maybe that needs to be done (I don't know), but using this case to do it backfired.
That tends to happen when the chain of command attempts to wield the UCMJ as a leadership tool. More so when the media & politicians get involved.
I have no idea what SecNav Spencer was up to. Unfortunately for him, neither did his boss.