cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:47 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:32 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:51 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:12 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:02 am
jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:44 am
that's easy, remove Trump from office.
With whom? Wine cellar Pete?
Works for me.
Pete got the better of that exchange by a wide margin.
And that didn't even include that Warren was flat wrong about that event being closed to the press.
Warren got her butt handed to her.
Amy Klobuchar did far better in her exchange with Pete, but neither were actually damaged by that one.
I'd love to see either Pete or Amy (or both) take on Trump.
I think they'd crush him.
I'm worried about the rest, though I do think Bloomberg would be a great contrast.
Biden had his best night, helping folks like me be a little less worried...but I remain concerned about his ability to actually debate an issue effectively.
Dems, please don't give us Warren or Sanders. It'll make it far harder for us to persuade our pals to cross the line and vote for the Dem.
And it's simply not an attractive proposition to need to listen to them for the next 4 years if they did win.
Such a Holden ........why is a CONservative watching a DNC tv show (it's NOT a debate ) .....at all?
Does BIll Weld not do it for you? Why aren't you working to get YOUR gop back?
Nope, as much as I'd prefer Weld, fatty, this is the Trump/GOP.
That's not going to change unless Trump is defeated at the polls, the more ignominiously the better.
Post ignominious defeat, there can be some reckoning with how, why, who went so wrong.
Until then, my interest is who may best defeat him and then manage the job well.
They'll have 4-8 years to do so.
How can this be the Trump GOP? Trump is about as much a Republican as HRC is. Trump is about as much a conservative as is Bernie Sanders. Trump is the fly in the ointment that none of you people saw coming. The one credit I can give to Trump is he has the balls to not care about what other people and the media say about him. They hit him... he hits back. When the media attacked mittens... he ran under the bed and hid. Would not be prudent to defend yourself. Media might judge you too harshly...
Spoken as a true Trumpist, ex-Dem...fitting right in with the angry, resentful, fearful demographic he appeals to most.
He obviously owns the party now, the full apparatus, with anyone not on board and appropriately bending the knee faces being primaried with the full weight of the base opposed. So, they leave office, one way or another.
It was an ugly takeover and its not finished playing out in its entirety.
It's doomed to ultimate failure, but the question is how much damage will be done in the meantime.
"he hits back" being what you guys value.
The silly aspect though is the notion that he does "not care about what other people and the media say about him."
That's a total crock.