I said "almost seems like you agree with" (Reading is Fundamental ) Because your articles were all primarily just "accepting" that things are not changing, at least before you edited the post a few times before I could respond. Still avoiding the original question?Typical Lax Dad wrote:Where did you read what I “agree” with? BTW, I had some female friends from Iran that I went to school with. Your citation is old news. I learned those things in 1990 (re: Iran not SA)youthathletics wrote:Almost seems like you agree with Sharia in totality and zero change for the region, maybe you are traditional practicing Muslim...that would make sense with your holding onto the past is clearly being the only way....and if so, I respect your belief.Typical Lax Dad wrote:The poin isn't Cheney. It's the long history of the region and the belief that the region that dates back to the beginning of civilization (Sumeria) will adopt our way of life. Jared Kushner knows best...I will find a clip. Thanks for the advice.youthathletics wrote:For someone that hates when others bring up Obama's name or a Clinton, you sure like to resurrect the past. Still waiting to hear your ideas on what should be done on this particular issue? Or shall we just look forward to another youtube clip. Put yourself out there it's just a silly forum.Typical Lax Dad wrote:Been there, done thatseacoaster wrote:"....So why then if we all believe MBS wants to be King, and he has a vision of a more "moderate islam" in his country...."
I don't think he has any meaningful interest in anything like a "moderate islam." He wants to be King; he wants to contain and eliminate dissent. The moderation line is for Jared.
MBS wants to be a fair dictator
Reading is fundamental
Reading is fundamental
a little more perspective
Some of this is opinion and some is fact. For instance, a lot of religion is derivative. For a really good read, you should try the Mahabharata. Good philosophical lessons.
However, as these women say....The Changing Face of Saudi Women
In a deeply conservative culture, they are carefully redefining the boundaries of public life.
Saudi Arabia is the world’s most gender-segregated nation, but amid changes now under way, multiple generations of women are debating how to be truly modern and truly Saudi.
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Yes. "almost seems like" based on what? Did I missed the articles that show how we have successfully installed a democracy in the Middle East. Point it out and I will be happy to read it....youthathletics wrote:I said "almost seems like you agree with" (Reading is Fundamental ) Because your articles were all primarily just "accepting" that things are not changing, at least before you edited the post a few times before I could respond. Still avoiding the original question?Typical Lax Dad wrote:Where did you read what I “agree” with? BTW, I had some female friends from Iran that I went to school with. Your citation is old news. I learned those things in 1990 (re: Iran not SA)youthathletics wrote:Almost seems like you agree with Sharia in totality and zero change for the region, maybe you are traditional practicing Muslim...that would make sense with your holding onto the past is clearly being the only way....and if so, I respect your belief.Typical Lax Dad wrote:The poin isn't Cheney. It's the long history of the region and the belief that the region that dates back to the beginning of civilization (Sumeria) will adopt our way of life. Jared Kushner knows best...I will find a clip. Thanks for the advice.youthathletics wrote:For someone that hates when others bring up Obama's name or a Clinton, you sure like to resurrect the past. Still waiting to hear your ideas on what should be done on this particular issue? Or shall we just look forward to another youtube clip. Put yourself out there it's just a silly forum.Typical Lax Dad wrote:Been there, done thatseacoaster wrote:"....So why then if we all believe MBS wants to be King, and he has a vision of a more "moderate islam" in his country...."
I don't think he has any meaningful interest in anything like a "moderate islam." He wants to be King; he wants to contain and eliminate dissent. The moderation line is for Jared.
MBS wants to be a fair dictator
Reading is fundamental
Reading is fundamental
a little more perspective
Some of this is opinion and some is fact. For instance, a lot of religion is derivative. For a really good read, you should try the Mahabharata. Good philosophical lessons.
However, as these women say....The Changing Face of Saudi Women
In a deeply conservative culture, they are carefully redefining the boundaries of public life.
Saudi Arabia is the world’s most gender-segregated nation, but amid changes now under way, multiple generations of women are debating how to be truly modern and truly Saudi.
Saudi Arabia will change because Jared wants them to.
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No. I'm saying that we're doing a lousy job of handling our energy needs, and we can't even have a discussion about it because about 1/3 of our nation thinks that science is wrong, and Trump is right.frmanfan wrote:Hold the phone fan, are you implying that Trump supporters are the reason that nuclear is out of fashion in the US? Or that Merkel is kissing up to Trump by banning it in Germany? C'mon, stop taking the cheap shots, you are better than that.a fan wrote:Wait: so you're saying that Trumpism has long term consequences?!?! Noooooooo. That's un-possible, JHU!jhu72 wrote:All of this is really technical and incomprehensible to an audience already conditioned to not listen to scientist and experts.
You just have TDS. This is fake news.
Add in the far left, who swears nuclear power is a conspiracy to enrich the 1%, while at the same time thinks pipelines are bad, until oil in a ship runs aground, and you have a real problem logically working through meeting our energy needs.
Sensing a trend in my writings yet? The far left and the far right are a bunch of wankers who, together, make up the bulk of voters, and are the reason that our nation has been a mess for two decades now.
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Like Iran changed, because Valerie Jarrett wanted them to.Typical Lax Dad wrote:Yes. "almost seems like" based on what? Did I missed the articles that show how we have successfully installed a democracy in the Middle East. Point it out and I will be happy to read it....youthathletics wrote:I said "almost seems like you agree with" (Reading is Fundamental ) Because your articles were all primarily just "accepting" that things are not changing, at least before you edited the post a few times before I could respond. Still avoiding the original question?Typical Lax Dad wrote:Where did you read what I “agree” with? BTW, I had some female friends from Iran that I went to school with. Your citation is old news. I learned those things in 1990 (re: Iran not SA)youthathletics wrote:Almost seems like you agree with Sharia in totality and zero change for the region, maybe you are traditional practicing Muslim...that would make sense with your holding onto the past is clearly being the only way....and if so, I respect your belief.Typical Lax Dad wrote:The poin isn't Cheney. It's the long history of the region and the belief that the region that dates back to the beginning of civilization (Sumeria) will adopt our way of life. Jared Kushner knows best...I will find a clip. Thanks for the advice.youthathletics wrote:For someone that hates when others bring up Obama's name or a Clinton, you sure like to resurrect the past. Still waiting to hear your ideas on what should be done on this particular issue? Or shall we just look forward to another youtube clip. Put yourself out there it's just a silly forum.Typical Lax Dad wrote:Been there, done thatseacoaster wrote:"....So why then if we all believe MBS wants to be King, and he has a vision of a more "moderate islam" in his country...."
I don't think he has any meaningful interest in anything like a "moderate islam." He wants to be King; he wants to contain and eliminate dissent. The moderation line is for Jared.
MBS wants to be a fair dictator
Reading is fundamental
Reading is fundamental
a little more perspective
Some of this is opinion and some is fact. For instance, a lot of religion is derivative. For a really good read, you should try the Mahabharata. Good philosophical lessons.
However, as these women say....The Changing Face of Saudi Women
In a deeply conservative culture, they are carefully redefining the boundaries of public life.
Saudi Arabia is the world’s most gender-segregated nation, but amid changes now under way, multiple generations of women are debating how to be truly modern and truly Saudi.
Saudi Arabia will change because Jared wants them to.
Which is the stronger horse ? The Arabian or the Persian. We can't ride both.
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We have our own horse. How about we try riding that for while, and leave the Arabian and Perisan horses alone?
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The world doesn't work like that. We have to pick a side. Can't have it both ways.
Iran is funding & supporting proxies in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon & Gaza. They're destabilizing the entire region.
The Global Economy is still dependent upon Persian Gulf oil, even if the US could be oil self-sufficient (at much higher prices).
If you want to be an isolationist, get on the Rand Paul bandwagon.
Iran is funding & supporting proxies in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon & Gaza. They're destabilizing the entire region.
The Global Economy is still dependent upon Persian Gulf oil, even if the US could be oil self-sufficient (at much higher prices).
If you want to be an isolationist, get on the Rand Paul bandwagon.
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After witnessing all the mistakes we've made in the last 30 years, you seriously still haven't considered another path?old salt wrote:The world doesn't work like that.
Let's just keep doing the same thing?
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Obama tried a different way. Withdrew. The result --
The Arab Spring, rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, regime change &/or failed states in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen & the rise of ISIS & conquest of most of the best parts of Syria & Iraq to establish a Caliphate ? While giving Iran back their billions to finance their proxies throughout the region.
How'd that different way work out ? There are no good options, just less bad.
The Arab Spring, rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, regime change &/or failed states in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen & the rise of ISIS & conquest of most of the best parts of Syria & Iraq to establish a Caliphate ? While giving Iran back their billions to finance their proxies throughout the region.
How'd that different way work out ? There are no good options, just less bad.
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Are you asking how did that different way work out for Americans? Do you really not know the answer?old salt wrote:Obama tried a different way. Withdrew. The result --
The Arab Spring, rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, regime change &/or failed states in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen & the rise of ISIS & conquest of most of the best parts of Syria & Iraq to establish a Caliphate ? While giving Iran back their billions to finance their proxies throughout the region.
How'd that different way work out ?
Secondly, you seriously think that all of the above happened because 20k US troops in a country nowhere near Libya, Egypt, or Yemen left? Total cause and effect? Syria, yeah, okay....but Yemen?
How far is Libya from Iraq, again? 1,000+ miles?
And obviously, this always ignores Bush's choice of eviscerating Saddam's regime, and replacing it with US marines. That's what undid the region. Surely you're ready to admit that now. The rest of the world has: hence everyone is leaving Assad in power...because they saw what the US did in Iraq, and they're having none of that.
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The Saudis are caught on video using a body-double to cover up the murder of Khashoggi. Someone tell Trump, Pompeo and Jared the Saudis think they’re idiots and Turkey ain’t afraid to troll them.
“I don’t take responsibility at all.” —Donald J Trump
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That sounded like something out of a 007 movie, but...
Body Double Wearing Khashoggi’s Clothes Apparently Part Of Hit Squad
But...umm...he caused his own death, in a fist fight...right, Don?
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Body Double Wearing Khashoggi’s Clothes Apparently Part Of Hit Squad
But...umm...he caused his own death, in a fist fight...right, Don?
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Waiting for Turkey to drop a Beach Week video.
“I don’t take responsibility at all.” —Donald J Trump
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When the pimps in the crib ma...drop it like its hot, drop it like its haaaaaaht. ~ Snoop Dogg
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
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“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
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"You don't bring a bone-saw to an accidental fist fight.
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The West’s approach to Saudi Arabia: ‘one step forward, two steps back’
Power and Justice Dilemmas in Arab Societies: Part I
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old salt wrote:Obama tried a different way. Withdrew. The result --
The Arab Spring, rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, regime change &/or failed states in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen & the rise of ISIS & conquest of most of the best parts of Syria & Iraq to establish a Caliphate ? While giving Iran back their billions to finance their proxies throughout the region.
How'd that different way work out ? There are no good options, just less bad.
When and where did Obama withdraw troops? Mercenaries count, b/c they get paid from the US welfare trough Educate us.
And AFAN, where are you getting the claim that Nuke power will enrich the oligarchy only? Isn't Bill Ayers energy company stock accountable to government price fixing? Educate us.
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Does Fairfield county make ANY money from the killing machine industry? Last I checked, Lockheed-Martin was traded by that guy that likes his coffee black at the SUGAR BOWL.Typical Lax Dad wrote:The West’s approach to Saudi Arabia: ‘one step forward, two steps back’
Power and Justice Dilemmas in Arab Societies: Part I
Opinion pieces.
ILM...Independent Lives Matter
Pronouns: "we" and "suck"
Pronouns: "we" and "suck"
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My lefty friends. You don't think that I personally believe that, do you?runrussellrun wrote:
And AFAN, where are you getting the claim that Nuke power will enrich the oligarchy only?
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old salt wrote:Obama tried a different way. Withdrew. The result --
The Arab Spring, rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, regime change &/or failed states in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen & the rise of ISIS & conquest of most of the best parts of Syria & Iraq to establish a Caliphate ? While giving Iran back their billions to finance their proxies throughout the region.
How'd that different way work out ? There are no good options, just less bad.
Anti-Obama right wingers conveniently forgot that their hero Bush initially took credit for the Arab spring:
https://thinkprogress.org/condi-rice-cr ... 7f10df014/
The demise of repressive governments in Tunisia, Egypt and elsewhere during this year’s “Arab spring,” she says, stemmed in part from Bush’s “freedom agenda,” which promoted democracy in the Middle East. “The change in the conversation about the Middle East, where people now routinely talk about democratization is something that I’m very grateful for and I think we had a role in that,” Rice says.
As is so often usual for so many of those geniuses, credit Bush for the good results, blame Obama for the bad ...
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Absolutely..... even Norwich and Hartford Counties!runrussellrun wrote:Does Fairfield county make ANY money from the killing machine industry? Last I checked, Lockheed-Martin was traded by that guy that likes his coffee black at the SUGAR BOWL.Typical Lax Dad wrote:The West’s approach to Saudi Arabia: ‘one step forward, two steps back’
Power and Justice Dilemmas in Arab Societies: Part I
Opinion pieces.
“I wish you would!”