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Re: Climate Change & The Environment

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DocBarrister wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:25 am At this point, anyone who refuses to acknowledge the reality and danger of human-caused climate change is a complete and absolute ignorant moron ... and a threat to all of us, especially our children.

The world has squandered so much time mustering the action necessary to combat climate change that rapid, unprecedented cuts in greenhouse gas emissions offer the only hope of averting an ever-intensifying cascade of consequences, according to new findings from the United Nations.
Already, the past year has brought devastating hurricanes, relentless wildfires and crippling heat waves, prompting millions of protesters to take to the streets to demand more attention to a problem that seems increasingly urgent.
Amid that growing pressure to act, Tuesday’s U.N. report offers a grim assessment of how off-track the world remains. Global temperatures are on pace to rise as much as 3.9 degrees Celsius (7 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, according to the United Nations’ annual “emissions gap” report, which assesses the difference between the world’s current path and the changes needed to meet the goals of the 2015 Paris climate accord.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... te-change/

The election of Trump was catastrophic. The greatest existential threat to human kind are the climate change deniers ... Trump and his Party of Stupid.

DocBarrister :?
you buy that electric car yet? Or, does your gated/walled community NOT allow outdoor charging stations to be installed. They are, after all, unsitely. Just like your installed solar panels. Did you get custom insoles, to make your walk to work easier on your feet ?

You still haven't answered squawt. Why would a 365 day data point and increase of 3 degrees kill all humans. How is this possible ?

Did your home, neighborhood even exist 50 years ago, DOC?

Why not move back to Baltimore ? Lots and lots of cheap housing. Right around your ALMA too :lol:
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Re: Climate Change & The Environment

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ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:44 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:25 am At this point, anyone who refuses to acknowledge the reality and danger of human-caused climate change is a complete and absolute ignorant moron ... and a threat to all of us, especially our children.

The world has squandered so much time mustering the action necessary to combat climate change that rapid, unprecedented cuts in greenhouse gas emissions offer the only hope of averting an ever-intensifying cascade of consequences, according to new findings from the United Nations.
Already, the past year has brought devastating hurricanes, relentless wildfires and crippling heat waves, prompting millions of protesters to take to the streets to demand more attention to a problem that seems increasingly urgent.
Amid that growing pressure to act, Tuesday’s U.N. report offers a grim assessment of how off-track the world remains. Global temperatures are on pace to rise as much as 3.9 degrees Celsius (7 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, according to the United Nations’ annual “emissions gap” report, which assesses the difference between the world’s current path and the changes needed to meet the goals of the 2015 Paris climate accord.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... te-change/

The election of Trump was catastrophic. The greatest existential threat to human kind are the climate change deniers ... Trump and his Party of Stupid.

DocBarrister :?
you buy that electric car yet? Or, does your gated/walled community NOT allow outdoor charging stations to be installed. They are, after all, unsitely. Just like your installed solar panels. Did you get custom insoles, to make your walk to work easier on your feet ?

You still haven't answered squawt. Why would a 365 day data point and increase of 3 degrees kill all humans. How is this possible ?

Did your home, neighborhood even exist 50 years ago, DOC?

Why not move back to Baltimore ? Lots and lots of cheap housing. Right around your ALMA too :lol:
You need a logic course. Buying an electric car would help, but is inconsequential to the actual coming issues by itself. Whether a particular community allows something can be overridden by laws - property restrictions written into deeds get eliminated all the time (like saying you cannot sell the property to someone black or Jewish).

You also imply that DocBarrister said that everyone would be killed - which is absolutely false. Try reading sometime...
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Re: Climate Change & The Environment

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RedFromMI wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:39 am
Bandito wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:30 am
It’s just hypocritical that during his presidency, he pushed the global warming hoax. And now owns a huge piece of property on the ocean. Obama also gained tens of millions of dollars from being President. Trump has lost $1 billion in net worth while being President. Democrats are silent here. Not surprising. Democrats are liars and hypocrites
Climate change is not a hoax.

Property he both can afford, and one that will not be an issue for him during his lifetime. Hard to see why he should not enjoy his retirement.

BTW, tens of millions of dollars were basically earned from publishing an autobiography. Quite legitimate, and aboveboard as well. You don't think Trump will do the same when he leaves office?

And BTW, no one actually knows Trump's net worth, because he goes to heroic lengths to hide it (probably because his fortune has always been well under a billion dollars. He has been known in the past to randomly (and sometimes strategically) throw out wild net worth numbers that have no connection to obvious assets. And there is no clear handle on what debt he still has.

Actually, it was published yesterday that Trump's organization gained a quarter million dollars in the first three months of his presidency just through expenditures by the Secret Service for the huge number of times the president went to one of his residential properties (like Mar-a-Lago) or went golfing. No idea where you get your wild numbers except for something that Trump might have said at one of his rallies. And he lies so much it is really impossible to tell what he really knows...
What does a delayed payout, in this instance Obama getting paid off for things he signed, or earning money have to do with the fact that Martha's Vineyard does NOT allow wind turbines on this Turkey Point Property. Do a google maps scan of the Vineyard. Find any rooftop solar panels? Hmm....why DON"T they exist?

Don't care if the rich purchase "disposable" properties. Stop telling us our emmissions are the problem, while you private jet, just to golf barefooted, in a bathing suit, at the Royal & Ancient (wonderful place )
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Re: Climate Change & The Environment

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RedFromMI wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:55 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:44 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:25 am At this point, anyone who refuses to acknowledge the reality and danger of human-caused climate change is a complete and absolute ignorant moron ... and a threat to all of us, especially our children.

The world has squandered so much time mustering the action necessary to combat climate change that rapid, unprecedented cuts in greenhouse gas emissions offer the only hope of averting an ever-intensifying cascade of consequences, according to new findings from the United Nations.
Already, the past year has brought devastating hurricanes, relentless wildfires and crippling heat waves, prompting millions of protesters to take to the streets to demand more attention to a problem that seems increasingly urgent.
Amid that growing pressure to act, Tuesday’s U.N. report offers a grim assessment of how off-track the world remains. Global temperatures are on pace to rise as much as 3.9 degrees Celsius (7 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, according to the United Nations’ annual “emissions gap” report, which assesses the difference between the world’s current path and the changes needed to meet the goals of the 2015 Paris climate accord.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... te-change/

The election of Trump was catastrophic. The greatest existential threat to human kind are the climate change deniers ... Trump and his Party of Stupid.

DocBarrister :?
you buy that electric car yet? Or, does your gated/walled community NOT allow outdoor charging stations to be installed. They are, after all, unsitely. Just like your installed solar panels. Did you get custom insoles, to make your walk to work easier on your feet ?

You still haven't answered squawt. Why would a 365 day data point and increase of 3 degrees kill all humans. How is this possible ?

Did your home, neighborhood even exist 50 years ago, DOC?

Why not move back to Baltimore ? Lots and lots of cheap housing. Right around your ALMA too :lol:
You need a logic course. Buying an electric car would help, but is inconsequential to the actual coming issues by itself. Whether a particular community allows something can be overridden by laws - property restrictions written into deeds get eliminated all the time (like saying you cannot sell the property to someone black or Jewish).

You also imply that DocBarrister said that everyone would be killed - which is absolutely false. Try reading sometime...
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Re: Climate Change & The Environment

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Joe for Oil no longer gives the poor HH2. Checked with the Boston Building Dept. In the past 5 years, no increase in gas/oil heating unit installations.

How are the residents that Joe for Oil helped in the past, are they heating with electric baseboard or heat fans now? No "fossil fuel" (and yet "science" tells us that fossils aren't found at certain depths....yet we get carbon based products BELOW those depths.

And DOC is calling people like me "morons" because I question the Tom Steyers of the worlds motives? That we should just SHUT UP and allow the rich to live any way they please, while inflicting control laws on the non-oligarchy?

Why do pretends like DOC love money so much ? But not the poor ?
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Re: Climate Change & The Environment

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DocBarrister wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:38 am
Bandito wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:35 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:25 am At this point, anyone who refuses to acknowledge the reality and danger of human-caused climate change is a complete and absolute ignorant moron ... and a threat to all of us, especially our children.

The world has squandered so much time mustering the action necessary to combat climate change that rapid, unprecedented cuts in greenhouse gas emissions offer the only hope of averting an ever-intensifying cascade of consequences, according to new findings from the United Nations.
Already, the past year has brought devastating hurricanes, relentless wildfires and crippling heat waves, prompting millions of protesters to take to the streets to demand more attention to a problem that seems increasingly urgent.
Amid that growing pressure to act, Tuesday’s U.N. report offers a grim assessment of how off-track the world remains. Global temperatures are on pace to rise as much as 3.9 degrees Celsius (7 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, according to the United Nations’ annual “emissions gap” report, which assesses the difference between the world’s current path and the changes needed to meet the goals of the 2015 Paris climate accord.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... te-change/

The election of Trump was catastrophic. The greatest existential threat to human kind are the climate change deniers ... Trump and his Party of Stupid.

DocBarrister :?
You can’t help but make yourself look foolish, can you?
If global warming and oceans rising was real, why did your lover boy buy a 15 million dollar mansion on the water in MA? Do you not see how deranged and foolish you look? You’re getting played bro
^^^^
Exhibit A.

DocBarrister :roll:
Dude you get owned all the time on here. You have no idea what your talking about. What are you doing to prevent climate change?? You drive to work in a gasoline powered car right? Hypocrite liberal
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RedFromMI wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:55 am

You need a logic course. No, you just need to respond to the question. Buying an electric car would help, but is inconsequential to the actual coming issues by itself. Huh?? Whether a particular community allows something can be overridden by laws - property restrictions written into deeds get eliminated all the time (like saying you cannot sell the property to someone black or Jewish).

You also imply that DocBarrister said that everyone would be killed - which is absolutely false. Try reading sometime... What should I be reading? Instead of mocking and insulting, how'z about answering the questions? If we are NOT going to die because the YEARLY average has gone up 3 degrees, what is the issue? The problem?
I don't wanna be a moron. Help me out. Today's temp swing in my neck of the woods will almost be 30 degrees, in less than 10 hours. How is this catostrophic ? Please don't send garbage about "more this.....less that.....stronger this....weaker that " when scientifically talking about .00000001 of the earths existence. ( 150 years of record keeping )

Do you think the Donner party thought the snow was EXTREME :roll:
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For some of you that continually ignore the systematic manipulation and narrative is just puzzling.

https://blog.usejournal.com/leading-the ... 6740475b8f

The climate crisis is an unprecedented emergency. It is the United States’ top national security threat, public health threat, and moral emergency. Humanity is careening towards the deaths of billions of people, millions of species, and the collapse of organized civilization. States under severe climate stress, such as Syria, are already starting to fail, bringing chaos, violence, and misery to the region. The world order itself is crumbling, in significant part due to climatic and resource pressures. The climate crisis acts as a “threat multiplier” making not only severe storms, but also war, nuclear exchange, and epidemics more likely. Britain is leaving the European Union, and America’s political system, undermined for decades by corruption and bad faith, is in dire peril.



Do you people really take prose like this seriously ?
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:20 am For some of you that continually ignore the systematic manipulation and narrative is just puzzling.

https://blog.usejournal.com/leading-the ... 6740475b8f

The climate crisis is an unprecedented emergency. It is the United States’ top national security threat, public health threat, and moral emergency. Humanity is careening towards the deaths of billions of people, millions of species, and the collapse of organized civilization. States under severe climate stress, such as Syria, are already starting to fail, bringing chaos, violence, and misery to the region. The world order itself is crumbling, in significant part due to climatic and resource pressures. The climate crisis acts as a “threat multiplier” making not only severe storms, but also war, nuclear exchange, and epidemics more likely. Britain is leaving the European Union, and America’s political system, undermined for decades by corruption and bad faith, is in dire peril.



Do you people really take prose like this seriously ?
In other words, try reading :roll:
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runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:27 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:20 am For some of you that continually ignore the systematic manipulation and narrative is just puzzling.

https://blog.usejournal.com/leading-the ... 6740475b8f

The climate crisis is an unprecedented emergency. It is the United States’ top national security threat, public health threat, and moral emergency. Humanity is careening towards the deaths of billions of people, millions of species, and the collapse of organized civilization. States under severe climate stress, such as Syria, are already starting to fail, bringing chaos, violence, and misery to the region. The world order itself is crumbling, in significant part due to climatic and resource pressures. The climate crisis acts as a “threat multiplier” making not only severe storms, but also war, nuclear exchange, and epidemics more likely. Britain is leaving the European Union, and America’s political system, undermined for decades by corruption and bad faith, is in dire peril.



Do you people really take prose like this seriously ?
In other words, try reading :roll:
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remember when they tried to fear monger the beer drinkers of the world. Hops won't grow :roll:

Is JOE 4 Oil taking care of the poor this winter? How will they accomplish their mission statement ? Good Ole Joe, still making a million at his non-profit. I haven't smoked with Joe in years.......because smoking is bad. Unless it's not. ($60 for an 1/8th :o ....insanity. )

Solutions for the poor of Boston to keep warm this winter is what, Doc and all you other hypocrites.
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Why are comments like this allowed ADMIN ? Is this NOT a personnel insult? Be consistent, admin.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:16 am
RedFromMI wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:55 am

You need a logic course. No, you just need to respond to the question. Buying an electric car would help, but is inconsequential to the actual coming issues by itself. Huh?? Whether a particular community allows something can be overridden by laws - property restrictions written into deeds get eliminated all the time (like saying you cannot sell the property to someone black or Jewish).

You also imply that DocBarrister said that everyone would be killed - which is absolutely false. Try reading sometime... What should I be reading? Instead of mocking and insulting, how'z about answering the questions? If we are NOT going to die because the YEARLY average has gone up 3 degrees, what is the issue? The problem?
I don't wanna be a moron. Help me out. Today's temp swing in my neck of the woods will almost be 30 degrees, in less than 10 hours. How is this catostrophic ? Please don't send garbage about "more this.....less that.....stronger this....weaker that " when scientifically talking about .00000001 of the earths existence. ( 150 years of record keeping )

Do you think the Donner party thought the snow was EXTREME :roll:
Temperature swings of 45 degrees per day is quite common in desert areas. Has nothing to do with it as you again are talking about (weather vs. climate yet again).

The issue is that a 3 degree rise in temperature will shift times of spring thaws and fall freezes. It will lead to extremes (due to the fact that a 3 degree rise puts a huge amount of energy into the earth system).

It potentially could lead to runaway feedback loops. One example is related to the fact that to get cooling you need to reflect more solar energy into space. That happens naturally when you have cooler _summers_ because you restrict the snow melt in the north, and snow has greater reflectivity than land or water. So warm summers leading to greater snow/ice cap melt can lower reflectivity, and increase solar gain.

Another one is melting of permafrost and creation of GHGs by natural processes (like decay) as well as releasing already trapped GHGs like methane.

A lot of cities around the world that are coastal would be threatened by sea level rise. It could lead to a lot of displaced people, which could put refugee pressure on wealthier areas of the world. That is why climate issues have become quite large in the European white nationalist movement - they don't want people from, say, Bangladesh showing up in Western Europe...
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:18 am
Why are comments like this allowed ADMIN ? Is this NOT a personnel insult? Be consistent, admin.
Why do you ask soooo many questions? Try not to be insulted. ;)
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RedFromMI wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:25 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:16 am
RedFromMI wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:55 am

You need a logic course. No, you just need to respond to the question. Buying an electric car would help, but is inconsequential to the actual coming issues by itself. Huh?? Whether a particular community allows something can be overridden by laws - property restrictions written into deeds get eliminated all the time (like saying you cannot sell the property to someone black or Jewish).

You also imply that DocBarrister said that everyone would be killed - which is absolutely false. Try reading sometime... What should I be reading? Instead of mocking and insulting, how'z about answering the questions? If we are NOT going to die because the YEARLY average has gone up 3 degrees, what is the issue? The problem?
I don't wanna be a moron. Help me out. Today's temp swing in my neck of the woods will almost be 30 degrees, in less than 10 hours. How is this catostrophic ? Please don't send garbage about "more this.....less that.....stronger this....weaker that " when scientifically talking about .00000001 of the earths existence. ( 150 years of record keeping )

Do you think the Donner party thought the snow was EXTREME :roll:
Temperature swings of 45 degrees per day is quite common in desert areas. Has nothing to do with it as you again are talking about (weather vs. climate yet again). Laughable, how will a 3 degree swing affect the CLIMATE, in YOUR climate? You have no idea what you are talking about.

The issue is that a 3 degree rise in temperature will shift times of spring thaws and fall freezes. It will lead to extremes (due to the fact that a 3 degree rise puts a huge amount of energy into the earth system). I asked you NOT to bring up the bull dung "extreme" nonsense.

It potentially could lead to runaway feedback loops. One example is related to the fact that to get cooling you need to reflect more solar energy into space. That happens naturally when you have cooler _summers_ because you restrict the snow melt in the north, and snow has greater reflectivity than land or water. So warm summers leading to greater snow/ice cap melt can lower reflectivity, and increase solar gain.

Another one is melting of permafrost and creation of GHGs by natural processes (like decay) as well as releasing already trapped GHGs like methane. Can't we just burn the methane, breaking the "neither create nor destroy" matter down to less harmless gases? guess you don't abide by that theory either.

A lot of cities around the world that are coastal would be threatened by sea level rise. It could lead to a lot of displaced people, which could put refugee pressure on wealthier areas of the world. That is why climate issues have become quite large in the European white nationalist movement - they don't want people from, say, Bangladesh showing up in Western Europe... SO WHAT. Displaced people. :roll: Like THAT's never happened in human /animal history before. Why do birds migrate? You and yours don't CARE if oceans rize If I am relaxing , 200 yards from land, on a boat, am I in a different climate than you, if you are on the beach. 200 yards away ? Understand this question?
We are the world....feed the world. That Bob Guildoff fundraiser. Famine. People dying from starvation. Because of greed. No one said ONE word about climate warming during this event. Remember Bono talking about climate change? David Bowie? Queen? How about the concert here in the US? Madonna spout off about climate change? For that matter, how many climate change "believers" attend harmful, polluting concerts. These hypocrites don't realize the carbon footprint of emptying 500 portta potties. Lollapolloza indeed.

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You gotta be consistent in enforcing the personnel attacks on this website. It's not tough, it's easy.
It's easy, or certainly easier, when people report the personal attacks. As you just did. With this said, with so many personal attacks, it actually is pretty tough. With this said...

Fellas, discuss topics, not post-ers.
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foreverlax wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:37 am
ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:18 am
Why are comments like this allowed ADMIN ? Is this NOT a personnel insult? Be consistent, admin.
Why do you ask soooo many questions? Try not to be insulted. ;)
Says the guy complaining about asking questions, while asking one. :roll:

And, I am not insulted. Plenty of hypocrites calling others out, for whataboutism, staying on topic, etc.

Instead of asking a question...or for that matter....ANSWERING one.......it's telling that you support this worthless comment from jhu72. His purpose, by logging into this website and typing the conversation adding comment, is lost on me. Other than to insult.

How about addressing the issues. The questions.
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admin wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:39 am
You gotta be consistent in enforcing the personnel attacks on this website. It's not tough, it's easy.
It's easy, or certainly easier, when people report the personal attacks. As you just did. With this said, with so many personal attacks, it actually is pretty tough. With this said...

Fellas, discuss topics, not post-ers.
Well.....if you wanna keep the jail house open for only "certain" people, that sets a bad tone.
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:44 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:25 am At this point, anyone who refuses to acknowledge the reality and danger of human-caused climate change is a complete and absolute ignorant moron ... and a threat to all of us, especially our children.

The world has squandered so much time mustering the action necessary to combat climate change that rapid, unprecedented cuts in greenhouse gas emissions offer the only hope of averting an ever-intensifying cascade of consequences, according to new findings from the United Nations.
Already, the past year has brought devastating hurricanes, relentless wildfires and crippling heat waves, prompting millions of protesters to take to the streets to demand more attention to a problem that seems increasingly urgent.
Amid that growing pressure to act, Tuesday’s U.N. report offers a grim assessment of how off-track the world remains. Global temperatures are on pace to rise as much as 3.9 degrees Celsius (7 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, according to the United Nations’ annual “emissions gap” report, which assesses the difference between the world’s current path and the changes needed to meet the goals of the 2015 Paris climate accord.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... te-change/

The election of Trump was catastrophic. The greatest existential threat to human kind are the climate change deniers ... Trump and his Party of Stupid.

DocBarrister :?
you buy that electric car yet? Or, does your gated/walled community NOT allow outdoor charging stations to be installed. They are, after all, unsitely. Just like your installed solar panels. Did you get custom insoles, to make your walk to work easier on your feet ?

You still haven't answered squawt. Why would a 365 day data point and increase of 3 degrees kill all humans. How is this possible ?

Did your home, neighborhood even exist 50 years ago, DOC?

Why not move back to Baltimore ? Lots and lots of cheap housing. Right around your ALMA too :lol:
My pool has a solar heating system.

I’m planning on buying my wife a hybrid Lexus SUV.

I’m eyeing a Tesla Y whenever Musk gets around to delivering those things instead of smashing car windows. :roll:

Most importantly, I vote DEMOCRAT.

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Pool is heated by the suns rays.....awesome.

Thank you for the answer. You do NOT own an electric car. And you don't walk, or bike, to work.

How has voting Democratic helped reduce pollution in California?
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