Wrong ? -- yes. // Illegal ? -- not based on what's been presented so far. // Impeachable ? -- tbd.foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:44 pmThat is the Rs argument. Except it leaves out the only part that matters....investigating Trump's political opponent.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:34 pmNo question. Ukraine has many friends & boosters within the NSC & IC. What do the voters know (or care) about Ukraine ?ggait wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:10 pmKra -- FYI the WB was outed weeks ago. Google will tell you his name in 0.000023 seconds. He's a CIA NSC guy who specializes in Russia and Ukraine. So (surprise!!) he thinks there's something fishy about Trump and Putin -- which is what 99.86% of the Russia/Ukraine specialists at NSC, CIA, DOS think too.So when do we get to find out who the whistleblower/disgruntled is? Is it really a former Biden campaign/office staffer?
Since he was at CIA during the Obama years, his job would have been to work with Brennan (CIA director) and Biden (Obama point man on Ukraine). I've seen zero evidence that he ever worked in a political job for Biden.
He looks to be pretty much the same thing as Bill Taylor, LTC Vindman and all the other deep staters that have been coming in to testify. Since so many of those folks have testified (another one today -- deep stater Jennifer Williams assigned to Pence) and they've all said the same thing, we should be indifferent to whether the WB testifies or not.
How dare an elected President pursue a foreign policy that bucks that trend & resists getting pulled into Ukraine's conflict with Russia.
Didn't you agree that was wrong?
All that aside, 15 mos before an election, why should the Biden family be exempt from scrutiny ?
The aid to Ukraine (as appropriated by Congress) was contingent upon Ukraine taking concrete action to reduce corruption.
Zelensky was just elected on an anti-corruption platform.
It's reasonable for the President to hold him to that.
If Trump felt that the State Dept bureaucrats were not pursuing his policy & had "gone native", it's not surprising that he would pursue an alternate channel.
Ukraine co-operated with the DNC in the 2016 election, resulting in Manafort being fired & subsequently prosecuted & convicted. Rightly so.
I want to know everything about the Biden's dealings with Ukraine in general, & Barisma specifically.
US voters are entitled to that information, early enough to matter. If there's no there, there -- it will benefit candidate Biden.