MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:27 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:16 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:18 pm
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:40 pm
jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:22 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:43 pm
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:26 pm
holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:17 pm
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:44 am
Wait a minute...aren't the glaciers melting and polar bears dying and we need to abandon beachfront houses because rising sea levels? I can not keep on top of the changing rules here.
The rules haven't changed, but I am sorry if you can't keep up. The "it's cold so global warming isn't real" schtick is at least a decade old and has been explained ad infinitum.
And yes the glaciers are melting and polar bears are dying and my neighbors are jacking their houses up on stilts and putting removable flood walls in front of their doors and garages.
Because Chittenden Resovoir floods..................................
Wonder why our 25 year old beachfront property in South Carolina hasn't had any issues...except of course during hurricane season? Seems my study of 25 years via my eyes, drinking beers on the beach, and walking around should be quite suitable...no spreadsheet or data sets needed.
Ocean rise over last 25 years has been 3 inches. That's an average. Could you tell if the ocean rose by 3 inches. I doubt most people could without very determined effort. Tributaries are easier.
The true meaning of jhu72's post:
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And yours translates to "ignore the data, listen to the idiots who tell you what to think"
Sadly MD you are now coming across as one of the idiots who are trying to tell me what to think. When you can explain to me what the hell it is we are trying to prevent. Cancel that... that means a War and Peace diatribe from you that you are so very famous for. I forget that when you are conversing with a republican of some sort, what is the point? Maybe Mittens has time in his busy schedule for you to shine his shoes? You know how you moderates roll.
Hey MD... is there a Hall of Fame out there for popular moderates? In my world a moderate is a person without the intestinal fortitude to have an opinion based in a core set of values. You are the folks that wet your finger, stick it up into the wind and determine what it is you believe. So in your simple minded republican world... we can stop what planet earth will do.
Was I addressing you, cradle?
But ok, you don't like "moderates", particularly Republican moderates.
Nor people who prefer data over wishful thinking.
When you say "data", what do you mean?
You, and others, dismiss my NOAA bouy research. That's data. From a reliable source, no?
THIS bouy:
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_histo ... tion=41004
1981: Warmest/highest water temp for the entire year was 29.2 degrees C, or
84.56 degrees F. (in June none the less ??? )
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/view_text_fil ... al/stdmet/
2018 :Warmest/highest temp for the entire year was 30 degrees C, or
86 degrees F (August 7th )
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/view_text_fil ... al/stdmet/
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HALLOWEEN is today
1981, the warmest water temp for bouy 41004 was 25.6 C/
78F.
In 2018, the warmest water temp recorded for bouy 41004 was 24.3 c/
75.74 .....
... 2.3 degrees "cooler" than almost 40 years ago.
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Keep in mind that :
-data collection instruments have improved, I am assuming
-data recording went from one reading an hour to 6, 1981 to 2018. That is 24 per day versus 144 per day.
-buoy data is only decades old (4)
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Conclusions ?