JUST the Stolen Documents/Mar-A-Lago/"Judge" Cannon Trial

[jhu72]

So we are now going to leave troops in Syria to guard the Kurds' oil. Kurds don't need protection but their oil does. Genius move I guess. Spliting forces and sending the rest to Iraq. Sounds like more tethered goats to me. I am sure all our Trumpsuckers are ok with US soldiers dying to protect some Syrian oil fields.

[jhu72]

So Putin's enemy becomes Trump's enemy.

[old salt]

These guys need to get their panties out of a bunch and get over it..... Trump won.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syri ... SKBN1X00ZO

Your newfound concern about the plight of the Kurds & your sudden interest in our mission in Syria is most impressive.

My concern is with the decision making of the POTUS. You think those guys just need to get over it? They are mad that Hillary lost too.

It's easier to make fun of those who see the failure of Trump's actions, then to actually condemn what he did - which is bail on the Kurds.

Of course Trump acts like he and his bone spurs were the real heroes.

"get over it" is now the new "whatever"....

It's easier to try to figure out what's going on in Syria & what yet might be salvaged,rather than using this disaster for political self-gratification.
But go ahead, pleasure yourself. Just wash your hands when you're done.

I hate what Trump's doing in Syria, but I don't have any suggestions as to how it could have been handled differently.
We can't stay forever & there's no clear exit path. We have limited options.
The players will be meeting in Sochi this week to chart the outcome.
We can then adapt & try to salvage what we can.
We're reactive, just as our entire effort in Syria has been. Improvise & seize any opportunity.
It sucks being trapped between 2 allies without the ability to determine the outcome.

[tech37]

What you can't fathom is the fact that Clinton won the popular vote and more people wanted her in office than Trump. The election wasn't a rejection of Clinton and Obama policies - the voters did actually want them.

Nah, lesser of two evils holmes. Some voters thought Clinton was lesser of two evils and other voters Trump the lesser of two evils. Bottom line, two awful choices

I sure thought it was two awful choices.
But you do keep skirting the fundamental point that more voters chose Clinton than Trump. Thank god for the Electoral College

Unless you buy Trump's BS that that those millions more voters weren't actually Americans...

[old salt]

So we are now going to leave troops in Syria to guard the Kurds' oil. Kurds don't need protection but their oil does. Genius move I guess. Spliting forces and sending the rest to Iraq. Sounds like more tethered goats to me. I am sure all our Trumpsuckers are ok with US soldiers dying to protect some Syrian oil fields.

If used for that, our troops will be well protected from above, with freedom to maneuver, not pinned down in a crossfire by Turkish artillery or air power.

We had 28 troops in exposed positions along the Turkish border. They got out ok. All our armored vehicles made it to Iraq.
Now it's time to reload & redeploy to targets of opportunity, as events unfold.
Look at a map, see where the oil fields are & it will make sense.
If we can save the oil fields (with the SDF) it will give them bargaining power, a safe haven, & may keep them fighting ISIS.

[jhu72]

Neither guarding Syrian oil fields or an all expense paid vacation to western Iraq is bringing the troops home. If you recall this was the ear wash for throwing the Kurds under the bus. Trump lied again. Obviously the generals are running a game on the VSG.

[old salt]

Neither guarding Syrian oil fields or an all expense paid vacation to western Iraq is bringing the troops home. If you recall this was the ear wash for throwing the Kurds under the bus. Trump lied again. Obviously the generals are running a game on the VSG.

Blah, blah, blah. Who cares about ear wash ?
Our 1000 troops aren't coming home, they never were.
They, then their reliefs, will be there as long as a resurgent ISIS is a threat.
At least they're no longer trapped in a crossfire to placate a bunch of DC show ponies.
I'm concerned about what's really going on in Syria, not in your political spit balling.

[tech37]

Obviously the generals are running a game on the VSG.

Don't complain 72...If true that's a good thing isn't it? With all of Trump's other distractions, for him I doubt any of this is a priority. He's probably happy to defer to the generals.

[a fan]

We can't stay forever & there's no clear exit path. We have limited options.

Same thing we heard in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Rinse. Repeat.

All i want to know is, has whoever the General who is in charge in Turkey pulled our %&$)#*-ing nuclear weapons out yet? Or does this civilian who doesn't know which end of an ICBM is up need to explain to lifelong military types that having them over there for even five more minutes is insane?

Those F ing things aren't toys. Figure it out, and get 'em out.

[old salt]

We can't stay forever & there's no clear exit path. We have limited options.

Same thing we heard in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Rinse. Repeat.

All i want to know is, has whoever the General who is in charge in Turkey pulled our %&$)#*-ing nuclear weapons out yet? Or does this civilian who doesn't know which end of an ICBM is up need to explain to lifelong military types that having them over there for even five more minutes is insane?

Those F ing things aren't toys. Figure it out, and get 'em out.

Without the arming codes, they're just big lumps of hazmat.

[a fan]

Ever the optimist, old salt.

And I appreciate that.

[tech37]

We can't stay forever & there's no clear exit path. We have limited options.

Same thing we heard in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Rinse. Repeat.

All i want to know is, has whoever the General who is in charge in Turkey pulled our %&$)#*-ing nuclear weapons out yet? Or does this civilian who doesn't know which end of an ICBM is up need to explain to lifelong military types that having them over there for even five more minutes is insane?

Those F ing things aren't toys. Figure it out, and get 'em out.

As long as Turkey remains in NATO, doubt that happens a fan. It's a concern though of course.

I read there is considered to be as many as 50 US nukes in Turkey? OS, why so many?

[old salt]

We can't stay forever & there's no clear exit path. We have limited options.

Same thing we heard in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Rinse. Repeat.

All i want to know is, has whoever the General who is in charge in Turkey pulled our %&$)#*-ing nuclear weapons out yet? Or does this civilian who doesn't know which end of an ICBM is up need to explain to lifelong military types that having them over there for even five more minutes is insane?

Those F ing things aren't toys. Figure it out, and get 'em out.

As long as Turkey remains in NATO, doubt that happens a fan. It's a concern though of course.

I read there is considered to be as many as 50 US nukes in Turkey? OS, why so many?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

https://unredacted.com/2011/11/08/u-s-w ... -overkill/

[old salt]

German defense chief recommends international security zone in Syria

[tech37]

We can't stay forever & there's no clear exit path. We have limited options.

Same thing we heard in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Rinse. Repeat.

All i want to know is, has whoever the General who is in charge in Turkey pulled our %&$)#*-ing nuclear weapons out yet? Or does this civilian who doesn't know which end of an ICBM is up need to explain to lifelong military types that having them over there for even five more minutes is insane?

Those F ing things aren't toys. Figure it out, and get 'em out.

As long as Turkey remains in NATO, doubt that happens a fan. It's a concern though of course.

I read there is considered to be as many as 50 US nukes in Turkey? OS, why so many?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

https://unredacted.com/2011/11/08/u-s-w ... -overkill/

Thanks OS... Jesus H, "overkill" is an understatement. After watching Chernobyl, the miniseries this weekend, I'm especially sensitive to anything nuke.

[tech37]

German defense chief recommends international security zone in Syria

"But we can't only talk about this," Kramp-Karrenbauer stressed. "Europe cannot simply be an onlooker. We also have to come up with our own recommendations and initiate discussions."

Good stuff...

[CU88]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

[jhu72]

Obviously the generals are running a game on the VSG.

Don't complain 72...If true that's a good thing isn't it? With all of Trump's other distractions, for him I doubt any of this is a priority. He's probably happy to defer to the generals.

I thought you guys were all about how terrible the "deep state" was for running games on the VSG. Now you are just fine with it.

[tech37]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

Why didn't Obama do something about it?...he knew. Perhaps instead, he and his IC saw an opportunity to exploit their carelessness?

Calling IG Horowitz and FP Durham...

[CU88]

We all know that the r's never read the Mueller Report, so I doubt they will read these reports, but here they are:

"The slim, 85-page report reads like a Russian spy novel crossed with a sequel to Orwell’s most dystopian version of the future — right down to an interview with a paid Russian troll who said his experience in 2016, pitting American voters against each other with social media platforms of their own making, was like being “a character in the book ‘1984’ by George Orwell — a place where you have to write that white is black and black is white.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/th ... -ever-read

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sit ... olume2.pdf

Why didn't Obama do something about it?...he knew. Perhaps instead, he and his IC saw an opportunity to exploit their carelessness?

Calling IG Horowitz and FP Durham...

Get Over It.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/58761404 ... ce-in-2016