Well played!
Now I hope you freeze your ass off.
Well played!
Ah, so then you'd be ok with, for example, capping a CEO's salary?LandM wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:47 pm afan,
It has been my experience that in the P5 that 5 guys per major programs have a shot every year to play on Sunday. Those 5 will be getting the sponsorships - if you do not think that is not gonna cause some issues in the lockeroom and on the field - I would hate to be that coach in that circumstance - I totally disagree with you. As you get lower by team then pick the other conferences it will just get worse. These guys got there through hard-work and ego's - IMHO you will be creating disunity.
I think the reason you see some many "NOs" is these are team sports, it is not a man's worth but a teams worth. Without the grunts in the trenches doing their job, the superstar no matter how gifted is not going to succeed. You think Pat Spencer is Pat Spencer without the ball. Guys getting him the ball like McNulty are part of Spence's success.And yet, shouldn't the free market sort out what a man's worth is? This thread has been a real eye opener. Surprised at how many believe the answer is "no".
I've said that it's complex about five times now. I've also said that I personally see both sides of the issue. Just pointing out my surprise at how many people think that an adults earning potential should be capped. I find that to be an odd opinion for an American to hold, is all.QuakerSouth wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:08 am a fan,
This is an extremely complex issue. Your antagonistic approach to others' opinions represents two-dimensional thinking. You are better than that.
Who said that McNulty couldn't get paid from this same free market?palaxoff wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:28 amI think the reason you see some many "NOs" is these are team sports, it is not a man's worth but a teams worth. Without the grunts in the trenches doing their job, the superstar no matter how gifted is not going to succeed. You think Pat Spencer is Pat Spencer without the ball. Guys getting him the ball like McNulty are part of Spence's success.And yet, shouldn't the free market sort out what a man's worth is? This thread has been a real eye opener. Surprised at how many believe the answer is "no".
You've never seen dog eat dog "why is he getting the promotion, and not me?" or "why is he getting paid more than me" in the corporate world? It happens all the time, no?
I don’t like college sports serving as a minor league. The NBA has one foot in and one foot out. I liked it better when players could jump straight to the NBA. Collective bargaining by NBA vets sold those guys down the river. This system will have many unintended negative consequences. Wait until the hood rat agents get involved and sow dissension.....LandM wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:21 am afan,
You named one of the two reasons I got out of the corporate rat race, the other was after laying off 500 people with two companies (I was the hatch it man) I thought it would be better to build something, even with all the struggles of owning a business than continue to tear something down;
If you honestly believe this has to do with putting food on the table - doubtful. Next time you are in PA or NY, let me know, I will walk you through the PSU athletic facilities they do not want for food, drink or clothing and that includes any sport affiliated with the school. My son who did play D1 lax had the same experience.
I think Dmac posted the correct article on what Boheim stated, I do not have an issue with players getting paid as long as everyone is getting something not the superstars only. But as Tebow stated once you start down that path you become a minor league team. The one and done in hoops is a pretty good example.
I'm not talking about on campus food. I'm saying: plenty of these kids come from households that are in poverty. Just $500 goes a long way in those homes. You're saying: no, you can't earn that honest dollar from your hard work. That's a pretty serious thing to do to a man, don't you think?LandM wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:21 am afan,
You named one of the two reasons I got out of the corporate rat race, the other was after laying off 500 people with two companies (I was the hatch it man) I thought it would be better to build something, even with all the struggles of owning a business than continue to tear something down;
If you honestly believe this has to do with putting food on the table - doubtful. Next time you are in PA or NY, let me know, I will walk you through the PSU athletic facilities they do not want for food, drink or clothing and that includes any sport affiliated with the school. My son who did play D1 lax had the same experience.
Granted it's related to the topic of this thread, but what CA, FL, etc. are trying to do is pay for name, image, and likeness.a fan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:13 pmI'm not talking about on campus food. I'm saying: plenty of these kids come from households that are in poverty. Just $500 goes a long way in those homes. You're saying: no, you can't earn that honest dollar from your hard work. That's a pretty serious thing to do to a man, don't you think?LandM wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:21 am afan,
You named one of the two reasons I got out of the corporate rat race, the other was after laying off 500 people with two companies (I was the hatch it man) I thought it would be better to build something, even with all the struggles of owning a business than continue to tear something down;
If you honestly believe this has to do with putting food on the table - doubtful. Next time you are in PA or NY, let me know, I will walk you through the PSU athletic facilities they do not want for food, drink or clothing and that includes any sport affiliated with the school. My son who did play D1 lax had the same experience.
If you guys are really serious about amateurism, locker rooms, and the team, isn't the solution obvious?
You peg the salary of every single person in the athletic department, and all the athletic conferences to what the players get, and not one penny more. The cash equivalent of room, board, books, fees, etc. that they players get.
Problem solved. You get locker room unity, and the kids aren't being exploited.
You think all those administrators and coaches would sign up for that?
Thank you for the kind offer of showing me around Penn St.. I might take you up on that some day.