You make fair points.
It is not clear to me, however, the extent to which the Bidens have already been investigated by the FBI. If they have been thoroughly investigated, and nothing has been found, and I’ve missed that, then I would agree: no further investigation is warranted. If they haven’t been investigated, however, and if there is a legitimate basis for doing so (a critically important if), then have at it. I want to know if there is something there (I highly doubt it) just as I want to know if there is nothing there.
Having said that, I certainly don’t want the investigation to be run by Barr/Giuliani or infected by any Ukrainian lowlifes.
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There's nothing to investigate. Was it a sleazy, gross move for Hunter to get that work while Daddy was working with the Ukranian government as VP? Completely. Totally. Go get an F'ing job on your own, kid. Don't use Daddy's name to get paid to sit on a board, or to do legal work.
Hunter is a F ing lawyer, for heaven's sake. We're supposed to believe he doesn't get a what a conflict of interest is?
When Dad is out of office? Fine. Go do your thing. As for Biden? If we're as sick of this corrupt conflict of interest thing as I am?
Biden is out by DQ for the election, and it's not even a close call. He's Hillary 2, electric boogaloo as far as money grubbing corruption goes. Hard pass.
But nothing Hunter did was illegal.
And again, if you trust one word a Ukranian says about either Biden, or Trump? You're a fool. Might as well listen and trust Putin while you're at it.
Hunter is a F ing lawyer, for heaven's sake. We're supposed to believe he doesn't get a what a conflict of interest is?
When Dad is out of office? Fine. Go do your thing. As for Biden? If we're as sick of this corrupt conflict of interest thing as I am?
Biden is out by DQ for the election, and it's not even a close call. He's Hillary 2, electric boogaloo as far as money grubbing corruption goes. Hard pass.
But nothing Hunter did was illegal.
And again, if you trust one word a Ukranian says about either Biden, or Trump? You're a fool. Might as well listen and trust Putin while you're at it.
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Whoa. Whoa. I never said anything about trusting the Ukrainians. In fact I said (twice) the exact opposite — that I don’t want the Ukrainians involved. I have said (twice) any investigation needs to be legitimate.
I’m not nearly as negative on Joe as you seem to be. He is far from a perfect candidate, but I don’t agree he is Hillary 2.0. Yes, he has earned some big bucks for some speeches, but all ex-pols do that these days regardless of party.
I’m not nearly as negative on Joe as you seem to be. He is far from a perfect candidate, but I don’t agree he is Hillary 2.0. Yes, he has earned some big bucks for some speeches, but all ex-pols do that these days regardless of party.
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Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
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"When an individual provides the right information to the right people, the individual has made a Protected Disclosure and is a Whistleblower. Once a Protected Disclosure is made, the Whistleblower is afforded protections established by various whistleblower protection laws and policies. The actual process through which a Protected Disclosure is made will vary based on the information conveyed and to whom that information is provided.
Making a Protected Disclosure may be as informal as a conversation with your direct supervisor to a formal submission to an IG Hotline, or even a disclosure to an intelligence committee of Congress.
Regardless of who you make your disclosure to, they all share the common element of reporting wrongdoing to an authorized recipient while safeguarding sensitive national security information."
https://www.dni.gov/ICIG-Whistleblower/process-how.html
Making a Protected Disclosure may be as informal as a conversation with your direct supervisor to a formal submission to an IG Hotline, or even a disclosure to an intelligence committee of Congress.
Regardless of who you make your disclosure to, they all share the common element of reporting wrongdoing to an authorized recipient while safeguarding sensitive national security information."
https://www.dni.gov/ICIG-Whistleblower/process-how.html
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How many democrats believe Trump PRESSURED Zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden. What the heck is wrong with these folks?seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
You do know that there are 500+ words in the transcript between ...do me a favor and ...Joe Biden.
A whole blue book essay edited out of the conversation by the MSM to make their point.
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From Mimi Rocah on her twitter feed last night:6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:18 amHow many democrats believe Trump PRESSURED Zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden. What the heck is wrong with these folks?seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
You do know that there are 500+ words in the transcript between ...do me a favor and ...Joe Biden.
A whole blue book essay edited out of the conversation by the MSM to make their point.
Oh - it is not just that phone call. The Rudes was making several visits to Ukraine, and the government there knew exactly what Trump wanted.-Mob boss wants something. Asks “nicely” so he can claim it wasn’t a demand.
-Mob lawyer tries to make demand happen & hide behind attorney-client privilege.
-Underboss & Capos carry out different parts of the plan.
-They get caught & all claim not to know the whole.
The end.
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Because when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
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We haven’t seen the entire conversation.
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Well, I least I can conclude you are not in the 40%. It was a "perfect call" involving a "very stable genius" and the newly minted President of a country on the front lines of a hot war with the Russian Federation, in dire need of aid and cooperation from the United States. Think I get it fine.6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:18 amHow many democrats believe Trump PRESSURED Zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden. What the heck is wrong with these folks?seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
You do know that there are 500+ words in the transcript between ...do me a favor and ...Joe Biden.
A whole blue book essay edited out of the conversation by the MSM to make their point.
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… the wheels on the bus go round and round …tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
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...andjhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:48 am… the wheels on the bus go round and round …tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
The babies on the bus says WAH-WAH_WAH.
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I want to know who gave the order to hide the transcript....was it the Rosato brothers?tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
“I wish you would!”
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You do know the TRANSCRIPT is released.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:21 amI want to know who gave the order to hide the transcript....was it the Rosato brothers?tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
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The memo was released6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:24 amYou do know the TRANSCRIPT is released.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:21 amI want to know who gave the order to hide the transcript....was it the Rosato brothers?tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
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You do know without the WB it would still be hidden....did Trump blame it on the Rosato Brothers?6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:24 amYou do know the TRANSCRIPT is released.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:21 amI want to know who gave the order to hide the transcript....was it the Rosato brothers?tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
“I wish you would!”
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You do know that since the release of private conversations between the President and the heads of foreign governments were LEAKED to the media White House Policy sought to secure those conversations for national security purposes. But what's your point. The transcript—Listened in on by nearly 2 dozen people was released.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:29 amYou do know without the WB it would still be hidden....did Trump blame it on the Rosato Brothers?6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:24 amYou do know the TRANSCRIPT is released.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:21 amI want to know who gave the order to hide the transcript....was it the Rosato brothers?tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
But you'd rather believe the innuendo regarding Trump and deny the actual pressure applied by Biden.
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You do know that there are 500+ words in the transcript between ...do me a favor and ... Joe Biden missing from the news reports.foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:26 amThe memo was released6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:24 amYou do know the TRANSCRIPT is released.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:21 amI want to know who gave the order to hide the transcript....was it the Rosato brothers?tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
A whole blue book essay edited out of the conversation by the MSM to make their point. And yours
So it Doesn't matter what's in the transcript does it! Didn't matter what Mueller reported does it?
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A bit cryptic...it matters very much what was in the memorandum.6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:50 amYou do know that there are 500+ words in the transcript between ...do me a favor and ... Joe Biden missing from the news reports.foreverlax wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:26 amThe memo was released6ftstick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:24 amYou do know the TRANSCRIPT is released.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:21 amI want to know who gave the order to hide the transcript....was it the Rosato brothers?tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:32 amBecause when objective people read the entire conversation and the controversial lines in context, they are willing to give the POTUS the benefit of doubt.seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am Newsweek reports that only 40% of Republicans believe Trump mentioned Biden on the call with Zelensky. W.T.F. is wrong with these folks?
A whole blue book essay edited out of the conversation by the MSM to make their point. And yours
So it Doesn't matter what's in the transcript does it! Didn't matter what Mueller reported does it?