So are you ready for that civil war being threatened?
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So are you ready for that civil war being threatened?
Not surprised that one of the most extreme people on this board would post that...very typical
Kinda like the ones Hunter and Joe were working with?RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 am A guide to the shady characters Giuliani is working with in Ukraine:
https://www.propublica.org/article/trum ... in-ukraine
IG is partisan?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 amIF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.
And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?
Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."
Exactly. Good post, as usual.
"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
Does this come under the heading of draining the swamp?RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 am A guide to the shady characters Giuliani is working with in Ukraine:
https://www.propublica.org/article/trum ... in-ukraine
Surely then you'll be accepting the results of IG Horowitz's inquiry.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 amIG is partisan?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 amIF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.
And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?
Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."
Exactly. Good post, as usual.
"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
Other of Trump's supporters ("Deep State" delusionals) have gotten onboard already. The Oathkeepers have said they are ready. Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, etc.
In no world does Biden get $50k a month in the real world. It may not be illegal, but it should be....optics matter.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:38 amKinda like the ones Hunter and Joe were working with?RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 am A guide to the shady characters Giuliani is working with in Ukraine:
https://www.propublica.org/article/trum ... in-ukraine![]()
Never thought much of Pompeo's positions. Too much of a neocon for me. But never saw him as what he is now proving himself to be. If he had any honor, he would resign. He won't.RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:07 am Reports that Pompeo forced Volker out when he found out State knew what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pomp ... ng-mission
Not a good look for the SOS to be an active part of the conspiracy to dig dirt on Biden...
Speaking of "peers"... when is the next Antifa gathering 72? Been brushing up with your sawn pipe and nunchucks?jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:22 amOther of Trump's supporters ("Deep State" delusionals) have gotten onboard already. The Oathkeepers have said they are ready. Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, etc.
This is where we are. We ARE on the verge of a HOT civil war. Like in 1859. That’s where we are. And the Right has ZERO trust or respect for anything the left is doing. We see THEM as illegitimate too.@StewartRhodesOK
Aren't you afraid your "peers" will see you as lacking the appropriate fervor?![]()
At some point, if there is a there there, they will get some of the splatter created by the Skid Mark in Chief. Resign or go down with the ship.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:27 amNever thought much of Pompeo's positions. Too much of a neocon for me. But never saw him as what he is now proving himself to be. If he had any honor, he would resign. He won't.RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:07 am Reports that Pompeo forced Volker out when he found out State knew what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pomp ... ng-mission
Not a good look for the SOS to be an active part of the conspiracy to dig dirt on Biden...
What a crock of crap.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:27 amNever thought much of Pompeo's positions. Too much of a neocon for me. But never saw him as what he is now proving himself to be. If he had any honor, he would resign. He won't.RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:07 am Reports that Pompeo forced Volker out when he found out State knew what Giuliani was doing in Ukraine:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pomp ... ng-mission
Not a good look for the SOS to be an active part of the conspiracy to dig dirt on Biden...
Just as I accepted the results of the Mueller probe. You believe we should eliminate the WB statute?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:52 amSurely then you'll be accepting the results of IG Horowitz's inquiry.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 amIG is partisan?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 amIF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.
And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?
Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."
Exactly. Good post, as usual.
"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
Is that what I suggested? Best reread...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 amJust as I accepted the results of the Mueller probe. You believe we should eliminate the WB statute?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:52 amSurely then you'll be accepting the results of IG Horowitz's inquiry.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 amIG is partisan?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 amIF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.
And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?
Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."
Exactly. Good post, as usual.
"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.
I know what you wrote. I was asking that specific question. You believe we should have WB laws but you don’t like this iteration. What don’t you like about it?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:36 amIs that what I suggested? Best reread...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:34 amJust as I accepted the results of the Mueller probe. You believe we should eliminate the WB statute?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:52 amSurely then you'll be accepting the results of IG Horowitz's inquiry.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:40 amIG is partisan?tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 amIF the WB turns out to be legit. As usual you guys are way out over your skis...seacoaster wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am MDlaxfan writes: "So, when a President and his toadies attack the whistleblower as a spy deserving to be executed or otherwise threaten the wellbeing of the whistleblower, when Trump and his toadies threatens those evaluating the merits of the claims as 'traitors', when Trump and his toadies warn/threaten 'civil war', we are in extremely dangerous but highly predictable territory with this cat. The whistleblower and others have legitimate fear for their lives.
And how can we blame those who use 'leaking' when they have such fears if discovered, yet believe the truth will only be in the open if they take risk?
Thus, when other folks make fun of the process done legally, or seek to discredit those blowing the whistle or those evaluating the claims, it promotes leakers trying to get truth out into the public without their identity being discovered."
Exactly. Good post, as usual.
"checks and balances" never included "whistleblowers" did it? Seems to me WB is an incredibly slippery slope especially in our hyper-partisan times. The whole concept and any laws associated need to be completely reevaluated IMO.