Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:41 pm
DMac wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:34 pm
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:16 pm
dislaxxic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:06 pm
DMac wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:55 pm
Whatever the outcome, it was nice to see a man who exudes honesty and integrity and who believes the words of the oath he took and lives by them, unlike the piece of trash we have for a Prez. I would love to see the Prez sit in the seat Maguire sat in today, he would completely crumble and fall apart. Maguire did nothing wrong, he did what he interpreted as the right thing to do and thought he was following the letter of the law. A very impressive individual to say the least.
Agree. 100%
The right wing media today, and Trumpties the world over, are just tying themselves into knots over this. The VRWC, the right-wing media machine is throttling up into full outrage mode, something they are supremely good at.
It may well not help them one wit. Don't see how in the world this whole sordid affair could possibly expand the Trump Base even a tiny bit.
Enough is enough. This numbnut has to be put in his place. The country obviously was conned and lied into making a MAJOR mistake in the 2016 election.
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So go vote in November 2020. If you're not secure enough in what you just wrote, you will push the impeachment insanity, while helping absolutely not one citizen of this country. It's a fairly obvious choice.
Speak for yourself. It would help this one person in restoring his faith in honor and integrity being something more than just words. Even many of this Prez's supporters say he's unfit for office, that being the case he shouldn't be in office.
Was there ever a question from the day he went into the Oval Office that he would find his a*s*s in hot water because of who and what he is? Never was in mine.
There will be a choice between two people next Fall. It sounds like you will vote 'for a piece of wood' over Trump. That is fine. That is the choice we have.
Impeachment however is a dangerous step unless there is overwhelming evidence of a crime. That is not the case here. Cheering on the divisions of a country via impeachment are further decimations of integrity and honor to a system which imo is the best system in the history of the universe. Trump is Trump. I get it. But because you dislike a guy is not sufficient reason to impeach him, and nor is fake news. Adam Schiff just today spoke from the lectern as if he was reciting Trump's words verbatim...not letting anyone know he was reading a fantasy version of the words. I mean, this is the stuff that ruins countries. I guarantee 99% of the Dems on this Board believed Schiff as he spoke, and even after the news broke that it was all an act, will still believe him, even though it was fake (much like people still think something happend at UVA and Duke).
https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-pa ... ll-1461579
Again, PB, it's as if you are reading from Devin Nunes' tweets and talking points on Fox News.
I listened to the entire hearing, having read the release yesterday fully, but not yet having read the WB complaint. In no way at all was it confusing about whether Schiff was 'reading' Trump's words, indeed he made very clear from the outset of his recitation that he was summarizing the gist, the message, contained in the call so that we could all decipher the logic flow...which he indeed captured pretty darn accurately, though with a flourish here or there for emphasis. He later made clear that he was parodying Trump's words for effect. Maybe you missed all that and just listened to Fox or Nunes, but no one actually listening live, with half a brain, should have actually been confused.
I quite disagree re 'crime'. Nope, an "abuse of power", especially as egregious as this one is 100% on point for impeachment. Getting a BJ in the WH and then lying about it might not be, but this is an actual abuse of Presidential powers, with significant national security implications.
There's no need to prove a statute was broken if the oath of office is broken.