Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:24 am
LandM wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:07 am
forever, afan, and MD,
The guy who wears that blue uniform with 4 stars on both shoulders was my Basic Cadet Training roommate - I still speak with him monthly - I will pass on your concerns about his ethics. The next guy up so I have been told was my Academy roommate for two years - he also wears 4 stars on his shoulders - I will pass on your questions of his ethics and command decisions when I speak with him next week. After they get done laughing and get off the floor, I will let you know their real responses. You are questioning the integrity of men who have spent their whole life defending this country - if they saw a problem - they are not shy.
As to the flight crew - here is my guess - the guy in the left seat is an O-3 and probably late 20's/early 30's; guy in the right seat is O-2 and probably mid 20's; crew chief is probably E-7 and mid to to late 30's and the rest of the crew between E-3 to E-5 in their mid 20's's. These guys do not get paid allot of money. So if the airport is gonna for free drive them to the motel with a box lunch and they get a cheap room rate name anyone on this board not taking advantage of that? They get a daily per diem, you want to pay them more then pay them more. The O-3 probably works for an O-5/O-6 - do you think those guys give a ratz when they have millions of your tax dollars they are responsible for flying around whether these kids stay at Turnberry. They are probably saying have a great time and hit the links.
Whenever I went out the cargo bay, it was always make sure the boys packed correctly and were geared up; on the plane it was smelling the two guys in the big seats breath, matching coordinates, breath for alcohol; high fiving the crew chief; reviewing with the payload specialist we would be on mark; and praying we were close to the LZ when we landed.
THE MILITARY IS NOT A BUSINESS. Get over it already.
So the military should not be concerned with saving $3.00 a night because Trump’s place is supposedly cheaper..... a memo should have gone out a long time ago..... Government employees while on the government dime (at the very least) should not stay at a Trump hotel or patronize any of the President’s businesses. It’s that simple. Maybe it was an oversight.
That's indeed the simple and easy solution. Should have been obvious.
Across all aspects of government. No stays at Trump properties.
Then again, they should have been liquidated altogether and put into a blind trust, eliminating the issue altogether.
But absent that, no stays or other spending at Trump properties.
But look at what is happening throughout the government with folks being threatened with firing if they don't kiss Trump's butt, don't alter 'facts' to cover for his lies. This is an endemic problem. The rot starts with Trump.
On this particular matter, I'm much more concerned (potentially) with the diversion of flights to Prestwick, paying a higher cost to stop there than at alternatives...and what benefit Trump and co may receive from that increase in business at Prestwick. A few hotel stays surely isn't the payoff. If it is, that incredibly penny ante. Which doesn't excuse it...
At a very minimum, this should be investigated thoroughly and folks at the top making these decisions (if my suspicion is correct) held accountable.
But the primary accountability should be POTUS.