Trinity wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:56 am
Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos are scheduled to speak at conference organized by a QAnon supporter, and which features on its website an American flag with a big Q on it.
Trinity wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:56 am
Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos are scheduled to speak at conference organized by a QAnon supporter, and which features on its website an American flag with a big Q on it.
Trinity wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:23 pm
When is Flynn sentenced?
He was supposed to have another hearing in Aug. It appears the strategy of his new legal team is to delay sentencing as long as possible, citing slowness of his previous lawyers to turn over documents & their need to review them.
Delay helps Flynn. The more bad stuff that comes out about the Deep State conspirators who set him up & entrapped him, the more sympathetic Flynn looks. Best case would be to delay until after the IG, then Durham & Huber report out.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:08 am
NRO is making available 4 excerpts from Andy McCarthy's new book. I recommend reading then in order, first through forth.
Funny stuff. Sure to make MDLF76 & fellow TDS zombies heads explode, ...if they have the courage to read them. Enjoy.
Here is the real collusion scheme: In 2016, the incumbent Democratic administration of President Barack Obama put the awesome powers of the United States government’s law-enforcement and intelligence apparatus in the service of the Hillary Rodham Clinton presidential campaign, the Democratic party, and the progressive Beltway establishment. This scheme had two parts: Plan A, the objective; and Plan B, a fail-safe strategy in case Plan A imploded — which all the smartest people were supremely confident would never, ever happen . . . which is why you could bet the ranch that it would.
Plan A was to get Mrs. Clinton elected president of the United States. This required exonerating her, at least ostensibly, from well-founded allegations of her felonious and politically disqualifying actions.
Plan B was the insurance policy: an investigation that Donald Trump, in the highly unlikely event he was elected, would be powerless to shut down. An investigation that would simultaneously monitor and taint him. An investigation that internalized Clinton-campaign-generated opposition research, limning Trump and his campaign as complicit in Russian espionage. An investigation that would hunt for a crime under the guise of counterintelligence, build an impeachment case under the guise of hunting for a crime, and seek to make Trump un-reelectable under the guise of building an impeachment case.
I guess part 5 was the NYT hit squad desk and the unproven racisim theorem, that is still being worked out. And the double whammy, part 6, is to stor up angst of recession before the election. Seems all the left wants to do is MASA Make America Suck Again.
One thing is for certain, they spend more time trying to get out of work, than actually doing any work.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:08 am
NRO is making available 4 excerpts from Andy McCarthy's new book. I recommend reading then in order, first through forth.
Funny stuff. Sure to make MDLF76 & fellow TDS zombies heads explode, ...if they have the courage to read them. Enjoy.
Here is the real collusion scheme: In 2016, the incumbent Democratic administration of President Barack Obama put the awesome powers of the United States government’s law-enforcement and intelligence apparatus in the service of the Hillary Rodham Clinton presidential campaign, the Democratic party, and the progressive Beltway establishment. This scheme had two parts: Plan A, the objective; and Plan B, a fail-safe strategy in case Plan A imploded — which all the smartest people were supremely confident would never, ever happen . . . which is why you could bet the ranch that it would.
Plan A was to get Mrs. Clinton elected president of the United States. This required exonerating her, at least ostensibly, from well-founded allegations of her felonious and politically disqualifying actions.
Plan B was the insurance policy: an investigation that Donald Trump, in the highly unlikely event he was elected, would be powerless to shut down. An investigation that would simultaneously monitor and taint him. An investigation that internalized Clinton-campaign-generated opposition research, limning Trump and his campaign as complicit in Russian espionage. An investigation that would hunt for a crime under the guise of counterintelligence, build an impeachment case under the guise of hunting for a crime, and seek to make Trump un-reelectable under the guise of building an impeachment case.
That problem was Mrs. Clinton.
Good lord, why do we keep reading this partisan?
Zero credibility any more. Might as well listen to Hannity.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:29 am
I guess part 5 was the NYT hit squad desk and the unproven racisim theorem, that is still being worked out. And the double whammy, part 6, is to stor up angst of recession before the election. Seems all the left wants to do is MASA Make America Suck Again.
One thing is for certain, they spend more time trying to get out of work, than actually doing any work.
The story is bogus through and through. There is no proof that Mifsud is a Russian agent — Mueller never alleged such a thing, either when Papadopoulos was charged or in the special counsel’s final report, which concluded that there was no Trump–Russia conspiracy. The woman in question was not Putin’s niece; she was eventually identified as Olga Polonskaya, the 32-year-old manager of a St. Petersburg wine company, who (the Mueller report suggests, based on a “Baby, thank you” email) may have been romantically involved with Mifsud. Timofeev is actually a young academic researcher who runs a Russian think tank, the Russian International Affairs Council.
So the gripe from McCarthy, if I understand it, is that McCarthy did a bunch of investigating, and found that----wait for it---- the FBI and DoJ investigated and found no illegal activity related to Trump and the Russians. Wow. What a travesty.
And what you and McCarthy are implying-----with apparently no understanding of how bassakwards this "logic" is----- is that you both think that the FBI and DoJ shouldn't have investigated these people because...and this is the best part....after McCarthy thoroughly investigated the parties in question, McCarthy thinks that the FBI and DoJ should magically know that someone shouldn't be investigated BEFORE they are investigated. And the "reason" McCarthy knows that the FBI and DoJ shouldn't have investigated these people is that (snicker), he personally investigated them thoroughly.
Oh yeah. Top shelf line of reasoning right there. Where'd this McCarthy guy get his JD? A Cracker Jacks box? This is a whole new theory of American Jurisprudence he's championing here. Ya see, you START with a guilty verdict, and THEN you investigate the perp. Brilliant.
This is the American partisan echo chamber. When you just talk to each other, without bothering to have someone chime in and point out "hey dude, you're not making any sense"....you get this nonsense printed in a National Journal.
And, of course, McCarthy leaves out that anyone within 1000 yards of Trump lied at every chance they got about anything and everything Russian. McCarthy seems to think that for the first time in the history of the FBI, agents should brush it off and ignore it when the folks they are investigating keeping lying. Oh yeah, makes perfect sense. What's the one single thing that gets the attention of any prosecutor or investigator? Lying. Full stop. It makes you look into things further. Full stop.
But not in Trumpland. In Trumpland, if a suspect lies nonstop, the investigator is supposed to either resign, or hang themselves. The LAST thing they're supposed to do is, you know, their jobs.
Wow. What a scandal. Also, I though Steele was the tin foil hat's Rosetta Stone. Now it's Papadopolous? And I like that McCarthy brushes off Papa's felony as if it's no big deal. I'm sure he'll have the same levity if any of the the three investigations come up with indictments, right?
And you, too will not care if an FBI agent is caught lying, right old salt? Felonies are no big deal anymore, right? It's ok to lie in Trumpland, so what's the big deal if an FBI agent lied to the FISA Judge as so much of tin foil hat nation alleges?
And here's the same bullsh*t, sophomoric, dumb*ss logic again further in the piece:
Here is what we do know: The United States government has never charged Joseph Mifsud. It has never accused him of being an agent of Russia. It took no steps to arrest him despite opportunities to do so. In fact, the FBI interviewed Mifsud and, when he denied Papadopoulos’s claim that he had told the young Trump adviser that Russia had Hillary emails, the Bureau let him go. Special Counsel Mueller never alleged that Mifsud’s denial was a false statement.
That’s a pretty a curious way to treat the “Russian agent” who was the rationale for the incumbent administration’s use of foreign counterintelligence powers to investigate the presidential campaign of its political opposition, no?
What McCarty is telling the reader is that he hopes that the reader is too dumb to understand how time works. You know, complicated things like: past, present, future.
He is arguing that the fact that Mueller didn't charge Misfud in 2019 is iron clad proof that the FBI should not have investigated him in 2016. How is the FBI supposed to find out that they shouldn't investigated Misfud? Why, by investigating him, of course. Duh! Wait....what??
Every time I think our nation can't get any dumber......here we are. This dumb*ssery is published in the National freaking Review? Seriously?
McCarthy's point is -- it should not have taken 3 years to determine (or admit) what Strzok let slip -- there's no there, there.
Out top spy catchers couldn't figure out that they were investigating a bunch of self-promoting wannabe buffoons, trying to make a name for themselves, get jobs & pursue their whacko agendas ?
The FBI finally had to acknowledge that Steele was a phony, but they kept getting his stuff via the Ohrs, & using it.
...& why didn't Mueller tell us who Mifsud worked for, rather than imply that he was a Russian agent ?
They needed to keep the investigation(s) going, so they had something to leak to the press to damage Trump.
FYI -- McCarthy's the only legal talking head who's obtained FISA warrants, run a successful counter-intel investigation AND put away a real terrorist. He does not assert stuff he can't back up.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:18 pm
McCarthy's point is -- it should not have taken 3 years to determine (or admit) what Strzok let slip -- there's no there, there.
Out top spy catchers couldn't figure out that they were investigating a bunch of self-promoting wannabe buffoons, trying to make a name for themselves, get jobs & pursue their whacko agendas ?
How fast should they have finished the investigation?
And again: you want our FBI to stand down when they are lied to? I sure as hell don't. I'd EXPECT them to keep investigating.
McCarthy is intentionally ignoring that Trump's idiots are the ones who kept the investigation going by lying every chance they got.
He's selling a book. It doesn't sell if it's a story about people doing their jobs.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:18 pm
McCarthy's point is -- it should not have taken 3 years to determine (or admit) what Strzok let slip -- there's no there, there.
Out top spy catchers couldn't figure out that they were investigating a bunch of self-promoting wannabe buffoons, trying to make a name for themselves, get jobs & pursue their whacko agendas ?
How fast should they have finished the investigation?
And again: you want our FBI to stand down when they are lied to? I sure as hell don't. I'd EXPECT them to keep investigating.
McCarthy is intentionally ignoring that Trump's idiots are the ones who kept the investigation going by lying every chance they got.
He's selling a book. It doesn't sell if it's a story about people doing their jobs.
What were the lies that so baffled our top spy catchers ? Be specific plz.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:18 pm
McCarthy's point is -- it should not have taken 3 years to determine (or admit) what Strzok let slip -- there's no there, there.
Out top spy catchers couldn't figure out that they were investigating a bunch of self-promoting wannabe buffoons, trying to make a name for themselves, get jobs & pursue their whacko agendas ?
How fast should they have finished the investigation?
And again: you want our FBI to stand down when they are lied to? I sure as hell don't. I'd EXPECT them to keep investigating.
McCarthy is intentionally ignoring that Trump's idiots are the ones who kept the investigation going by lying every chance they got.
He's selling a book. It doesn't sell if it's a story about people doing their jobs.
What were the lies that so baffled our top spy catchers ? Be specific plz.
Exactly. Instead of lazily impugning McCarthy's motive for writing the book, how about answering the question? Instead you talk about "our FBI", when they were not serving the people, but serving the high and mighty. Why didn't Mueller stop the investigation or advise the country that Trump was clean when he was aware of it more than a year before the report was published? Answer the question, no dodging.
"I would never want to belong to a club that would have me as a member", Groucho Marx
"Of course the frothy right [including certain FL posters] hasn’t admitted how obscene it was for Donald Trump to accuse the Ohrs of self-dealing.
Who knows? Maybe Judicial Watch will one day discover the smoking gun that Meadows has been claiming to have found against the Ohrs. Maybe the details surrounding the 2016 communications or Steele’s efforts to undermine the investigation into his work will actually make the Ohrs into the villains they’ve been cast as for the last year.
And certainly, all that’s a different question than Simpson’s candor or the overall wisdom of Steele’s project.
But as far as the Ohrs go, what the evidence that Judicial Watch worked hard to liberate proves is that the President and Congressman Meadows owe this couple an apology — and the frothy right should stop prostrating themselves by parroting what Meadows tells them is there and begin describing all the ways these documents prove their past reporting to be a hoax."
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"The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and impenetrable fog." - Calvin, to Hobbes
Kinduv Ajerk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:20 pm
Trump w0u1d d0minate at 1acr0sse, he 1ived near 10ng is1and, d0minant,
Offkerj.Your boy Trump never ever lived near Long Island. There was a Trumpsiting 2 weeks ago out east. Makes the 5th siting in the past 21 years. Lacrosse? The image I have in my mind's eye of DD-K bending down to scoop a ground ball is terrifying. Kinda like a Manatee from his native Florida, attempting to pick up a marble that fell into the aquarium with its tail.
"Of course the frothy right [including certain FL posters] hasn’t admitted how obscene it was for Donald Trump to accuse the Ohrs of self-dealing.
Who knows? Maybe Judicial Watch will one day discover the smoking gun that Meadows has been claiming to have found against the Ohrs. Maybe the details surrounding the 2016 communications or Steele’s efforts to undermine the investigation into his work will actually make the Ohrs into the villains they’ve been cast as for the last year.
And certainly, all that’s a different question than Simpson’s candor or the overall wisdom of Steele’s project.
But as far as the Ohrs go, what the evidence that Judicial Watch worked hard to liberate proves is that the President and Congressman Meadows owe this couple an apology — and the frothy right should stop prostrating themselves by parroting what Meadows tells them is there and begin describing all the ways these documents prove their past reporting to be a hoax."..
PottyMouthMarcy claims the Ohrs are stand up characters, based on her audit of his travel claims
while ignoring the harder questions from the "frothy right". ...more chaff from the nasty girl.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:18 pm
McCarthy's point is -- it should not have taken 3 years to determine (or admit) what Strzok let slip -- there's no there, there.
Out top spy catchers couldn't figure out that they were investigating a bunch of self-promoting wannabe buffoons, trying to make a name for themselves, get jobs & pursue their whacko agendas ?
How fast should they have finished the investigation?
And again: you want our FBI to stand down when they are lied to? I sure as hell don't. I'd EXPECT them to keep investigating.
McCarthy is intentionally ignoring that Trump's idiots are the ones who kept the investigation going by lying every chance they got.
He's selling a book. It doesn't sell if it's a story about people doing their jobs.
What were the lies that so baffled our top spy catchers ? Be specific plz.
Exactly. Instead of lazily impugning McCarthy's motive for writing the book, how about answering the question? Instead you talk about "our FBI", when they were not serving the people, but serving the high and mighty. Why didn't Mueller stop the investigation or advise the country that Trump was clean when he was aware of it more than a year before the report was published? Answer the question, no dodging.
"lazily impugning"??? It's a piece of partisan trash.
You guys are now speculating not that the investigation should never have occurred, which was the meme for ohh so long, now you're speculating that the Mueller team should have given the Trump lying crew a clean bill of health???
Nonsense. They knew and proved they were dealing with a bunch of liars, who welcomed and embraced the Russian interference, which was very, very real. But they just didn't put enough together to actually prove a Russia-Trump conspiracy charge. McCarthy says the Report says there was no such conspiracy and that too is a lie. The Report says no such thing, just that they didn't have ENOUGH evidence to prove it. And they detailed all the fumbling efforts to welcome such a conspiracy to aid and assist in such a conspiracy and the cover-up of all such efforts. But yeah, no prosecution.
Yet, you think the FBI was "serving the high and mighty"...that FBI includes all those Trump himself appointed Wray, Rosenstein..yeah, sure.
