All Things Environment

[Typical Lax Dad]

because, analysts get it wrong. What do they know.

in my experience - very little.

Now Fixed Income analysts know a whole lot. It's the equity ones that can't outperform a dartboard.

Fixed income guys are always right?

[seacoaster]

So here's an article about "the data." Like a climate change deniers' calypso dance; go for it!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-america/

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

In those days before widespread refrigeration, workers flocked here to harvest ice. They would carve blocks as much as two feet thick, float them to giant ice houses, sprinkle them with sawdust and load them onto rail cars bound for ice boxes in New York City and beyond

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation.

That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water.

Over the past two decades, the 2 degrees Celsius number has emerged as a critical threshold for global warming. In the 2015 Paris accord, international leaders agreed that the world should act urgently to keep the Earth’s average temperature increases “well below” 2 degrees Celsius by the year 2100 to avoid a host of catastrophic changes.

The potential consequences are daunting. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warns that if Earth heats up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius, virtually all the world’s coral reefs will die; retreating ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica could unleash massive sea level rise; and summertime Arctic sea ice, a shield against further warming, would begin to disappear.

But global warming does not heat the world evenly.

A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Today, more than 1 in 10 Americans — 34 million people — are living in rapidly heating regions, including New York City and Los Angeles. Seventy-one counties have already hit the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Alaska is the fastest-warming state in the country, but Rhode Island is the first state in the Lower 48 whose average temperature rise has eclipsed 2 degrees Celsius. Other parts of the Northeast — New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts — trail close behind.

— While many people associate global warming with summer’s melting glaciers, forest fires and disastrous flooding, it is higher winter temperatures that have made New Jersey and nearby Rhode Island the fastest warming of the Lower 48 states.

The average New Jersey temperature from December through February now exceeds 0 degrees Celsius, the temperature at which water freezes. That threshold, reached over the past three decades, has meant lakes don't freeze as often, snow melts more quickly, and insects and pests don't die as they once did in the harsher cold.

The freezing point “is the most critical threshold among all temperatures,” said David A. Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist and professor at Rutgers University’s department of geography.

The uneven rise in temperatures across the United States matches what is happening around the world."

No worries, right? Just moneyed interests trying to get the leg over on an unsuspecting public, right? So we have palm trees and scorpions for our grandchildren in Irondequoit? BFD.

[cradleandshoot]

So here's an article about "the data." Like a climate change deniers' calypso dance; go for it!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-america/

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

In those days before widespread refrigeration, workers flocked here to harvest ice. They would carve blocks as much as two feet thick, float them to giant ice houses, sprinkle them with sawdust and load them onto rail cars bound for ice boxes in New York City and beyond

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation.

That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water.

Over the past two decades, the 2 degrees Celsius number has emerged as a critical threshold for global warming. In the 2015 Paris accord, international leaders agreed that the world should act urgently to keep the Earth’s average temperature increases “well below” 2 degrees Celsius by the year 2100 to avoid a host of catastrophic changes.

The potential consequences are daunting. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warns that if Earth heats up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius, virtually all the world’s coral reefs will die; retreating ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica could unleash massive sea level rise; and summertime Arctic sea ice, a shield against further warming, would begin to disappear.

But global warming does not heat the world evenly.

A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Today, more than 1 in 10 Americans — 34 million people — are living in rapidly heating regions, including New York City and Los Angeles. Seventy-one counties have already hit the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Alaska is the fastest-warming state in the country, but Rhode Island is the first state in the Lower 48 whose average temperature rise has eclipsed 2 degrees Celsius. Other parts of the Northeast — New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts — trail close behind.

— While many people associate global warming with summer’s melting glaciers, forest fires and disastrous flooding, it is higher winter temperatures that have made New Jersey and nearby Rhode Island the fastest warming of the Lower 48 states.

The average New Jersey temperature from December through February now exceeds 0 degrees Celsius, the temperature at which water freezes. That threshold, reached over the past three decades, has meant lakes don't freeze as often, snow melts more quickly, and insects and pests don't die as they once did in the harsher cold.

The freezing point “is the most critical threshold among all temperatures,” said David A. Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist and professor at Rutgers University’s department of geography.

The uneven rise in temperatures across the United States matches what is happening around the world."

No worries, right? Just moneyed interests trying to get the leg over on an unsuspecting public, right? So we have palm trees and scorpions for our grandchildren in Irondequoit? BFD.

Great post seacoaster… sure got me thinking. I live in the town of Irondequoit. Bring on the climate change heat... I will visit Amans Farm Market this Friday and inquire when they will stock Orange/Grapefruit/Lemon trees. I can finally dispose of my snow blower and snow shovels. I never realized the benefits I was going to reap from climate change. I bet I can now grow tomatoes damn near all year long. Holy crap and you fear mongers want to deny me this priviledge… damn you coaster... I was just this close to paradise and all you and your fellow fear mongers just pulled the rug right out from under me. Thanks for keeping the Artic tundra back in Upstate NY. There is one benefit... a hot fudge sundae on a cold winter day is healing medicine indeed. How much does your salvation cost us all again? 35 trillion dollars... a small price for all of us folks here in Upstate NY to pay. My recommendation for your grandkids...Dons Original in Seabreeze for a Chocolate Almond Custard. Guaranteed to chill down all the warming your grandkids will ever come up against.

[jhu72]

So here's an article about "the data." Like a climate change deniers' calypso dance; go for it!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-america/

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

In those days before widespread refrigeration, workers flocked here to harvest ice. They would carve blocks as much as two feet thick, float them to giant ice houses, sprinkle them with sawdust and load them onto rail cars bound for ice boxes in New York City and beyond

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation.

That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water.

Over the past two decades, the 2 degrees Celsius number has emerged as a critical threshold for global warming. In the 2015 Paris accord, international leaders agreed that the world should act urgently to keep the Earth’s average temperature increases “well below” 2 degrees Celsius by the year 2100 to avoid a host of catastrophic changes.

The potential consequences are daunting. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warns that if Earth heats up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius, virtually all the world’s coral reefs will die; retreating ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica could unleash massive sea level rise; and summertime Arctic sea ice, a shield against further warming, would begin to disappear.

But global warming does not heat the world evenly.

A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Today, more than 1 in 10 Americans — 34 million people — are living in rapidly heating regions, including New York City and Los Angeles. Seventy-one counties have already hit the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Alaska is the fastest-warming state in the country, but Rhode Island is the first state in the Lower 48 whose average temperature rise has eclipsed 2 degrees Celsius. Other parts of the Northeast — New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts — trail close behind.

— While many people associate global warming with summer’s melting glaciers, forest fires and disastrous flooding, it is higher winter temperatures that have made New Jersey and nearby Rhode Island the fastest warming of the Lower 48 states.

The average New Jersey temperature from December through February now exceeds 0 degrees Celsius, the temperature at which water freezes. That threshold, reached over the past three decades, has meant lakes don't freeze as often, snow melts more quickly, and insects and pests don't die as they once did in the harsher cold.

The freezing point “is the most critical threshold among all temperatures,” said David A. Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist and professor at Rutgers University’s department of geography.

The uneven rise in temperatures across the United States matches what is happening around the world."

No worries, right? Just moneyed interests trying to get the leg over on an unsuspecting public, right? So we have palm trees and scorpions for our grandchildren in Irondequoit? BFD.

I personally don't have the temperature data to prove it, but this "feels" right that during my lifetime in Maryland the winters have gotten warmer. No where near the kind of month(s) long cold spells during January and February where the ice would be frozen suitable for ice skating in eastern Baltimore County. During my years in elementary school we would be on the ice nearly every afternoon and on weekends. By the time I was 15, it was rare that it was possible to have more than two or three days consecutively that the creeks and rivers were frozen hard enough for skating. Now it is exceedingly rare.

[Trinity]

Know a guy replacing a grandfathered dock on the intracoastal, a dock first built in the 1980s. The new dock is 18” higher.

[youthathletics]

CHINESE SCIENTISTS WARN OF IMMINENT GLOBAL COOLING

A new study, led by prominent Chinese scientists, has found that winters in northern China have been warming for the past 6,000 years –unrelated to human activity– but now the prospect of a sudden and severe bout of global cooling is on the horizon and poses a serious danger.

We should cut a deal with China, bet them double or nothing that our scientists are correct and they are incorrect. The wager, double or nothing....our debt is scrubbed if it gets hotter.

[seacoaster]

So here's an article about "the data." Like a climate change deniers' calypso dance; go for it!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-america/

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

In those days before widespread refrigeration, workers flocked here to harvest ice. They would carve blocks as much as two feet thick, float them to giant ice houses, sprinkle them with sawdust and load them onto rail cars bound for ice boxes in New York City and beyond

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation.

That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water.

Over the past two decades, the 2 degrees Celsius number has emerged as a critical threshold for global warming. In the 2015 Paris accord, international leaders agreed that the world should act urgently to keep the Earth’s average temperature increases “well below” 2 degrees Celsius by the year 2100 to avoid a host of catastrophic changes.

The potential consequences are daunting. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warns that if Earth heats up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius, virtually all the world’s coral reefs will die; retreating ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica could unleash massive sea level rise; and summertime Arctic sea ice, a shield against further warming, would begin to disappear.

But global warming does not heat the world evenly.

A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Today, more than 1 in 10 Americans — 34 million people — are living in rapidly heating regions, including New York City and Los Angeles. Seventy-one counties have already hit the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Alaska is the fastest-warming state in the country, but Rhode Island is the first state in the Lower 48 whose average temperature rise has eclipsed 2 degrees Celsius. Other parts of the Northeast — New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts — trail close behind.

— While many people associate global warming with summer’s melting glaciers, forest fires and disastrous flooding, it is higher winter temperatures that have made New Jersey and nearby Rhode Island the fastest warming of the Lower 48 states.

The average New Jersey temperature from December through February now exceeds 0 degrees Celsius, the temperature at which water freezes. That threshold, reached over the past three decades, has meant lakes don't freeze as often, snow melts more quickly, and insects and pests don't die as they once did in the harsher cold.

The freezing point “is the most critical threshold among all temperatures,” said David A. Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist and professor at Rutgers University’s department of geography.

The uneven rise in temperatures across the United States matches what is happening around the world."

No worries, right? Just moneyed interests trying to get the leg over on an unsuspecting public, right? So we have palm trees and scorpions for our grandchildren in Irondequoit? BFD.

Great post seacoaster… sure got me thinking. I live in the town of Irondequoit. Bring on the climate change heat... I will visit Amans Farm Market this Friday and inquire when they will stock Orange/Grapefruit/Lemon trees. I can finally dispose of my snow blower and snow shovels. I never realized the benefits I was going to reap from climate change. I bet I can now grow tomatoes damn near all year long. Holy dump and you fear mongers want to deny me this priviledge… damn you coaster... I was just this close to paradise and all you and your fellow fear mongers just pulled the rug right out from under me. Thanks for keeping the Artic tundra back in Upstate NY. There is one benefit... a hot fudge sundae on a cold winter day is healing medicine indeed. How much does your salvation cost us all again? 35 trillion dollars... a small price for all of us folks here in Upstate NY to pay. My recommendation for your grandkids...Dons Original in Seabreeze for a Chocolate Almond Custard. Guaranteed to chill down all the warming your grandkids will ever come up against.

I don't know why I bother. But I will point out that this is adduced from data points, not a rainy spring or the belief that kids no longer ice skate in the winter in this or that location. Your silly post simply illustrates one of the principal contemporary problems in dealing with (to say nothing of combating) anything troubling that brushes up against a status quo and entrenched constituencies: people are unwilling to respect the science and the data that underlie it. As the President would say, using his big vocabulary: sad.

[foreverlax]

So here's an article about "the data." Like a climate change deniers' calypso dance; go for it!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-america/

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

In those days before widespread refrigeration, workers flocked here to harvest ice. They would carve blocks as much as two feet thick, float them to giant ice houses, sprinkle them with sawdust and load them onto rail cars bound for ice boxes in New York City and beyond

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation.

That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water.

Over the past two decades, the 2 degrees Celsius number has emerged as a critical threshold for global warming. In the 2015 Paris accord, international leaders agreed that the world should act urgently to keep the Earth’s average temperature increases “well below” 2 degrees Celsius by the year 2100 to avoid a host of catastrophic changes.

The potential consequences are daunting. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warns that if Earth heats up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius, virtually all the world’s coral reefs will die; retreating ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica could unleash massive sea level rise; and summertime Arctic sea ice, a shield against further warming, would begin to disappear.

But global warming does not heat the world evenly.

A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Today, more than 1 in 10 Americans — 34 million people — are living in rapidly heating regions, including New York City and Los Angeles. Seventy-one counties have already hit the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Alaska is the fastest-warming state in the country, but Rhode Island is the first state in the Lower 48 whose average temperature rise has eclipsed 2 degrees Celsius. Other parts of the Northeast — New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts — trail close behind.

— While many people associate global warming with summer’s melting glaciers, forest fires and disastrous flooding, it is higher winter temperatures that have made New Jersey and nearby Rhode Island the fastest warming of the Lower 48 states.

The average New Jersey temperature from December through February now exceeds 0 degrees Celsius, the temperature at which water freezes. That threshold, reached over the past three decades, has meant lakes don't freeze as often, snow melts more quickly, and insects and pests don't die as they once did in the harsher cold.

The freezing point “is the most critical threshold among all temperatures,” said David A. Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist and professor at Rutgers University’s department of geography.

The uneven rise in temperatures across the United States matches what is happening around the world."

No worries, right? Just moneyed interests trying to get the leg over on an unsuspecting public, right? So we have palm trees and scorpions for our grandchildren in Irondequoit? BFD.

Great post seacoaster… sure got me thinking. I live in the town of Irondequoit. Bring on the climate change heat... I will visit Amans Farm Market this Friday and inquire when they will stock Orange/Grapefruit/Lemon trees. I can finally dispose of my snow blower and snow shovels. I never realized the benefits I was going to reap from climate change. I bet I can now grow tomatoes damn near all year long. Holy dump and you fear mongers want to deny me this priviledge… damn you coaster... I was just this close to paradise and all you and your fellow fear mongers just pulled the rug right out from under me. Thanks for keeping the Artic tundra back in Upstate NY. There is one benefit... a hot fudge sundae on a cold winter day is healing medicine indeed. How much does your salvation cost us all again? 35 trillion dollars... a small price for all of us folks here in Upstate NY to pay. My recommendation for your grandkids...Dons Original in Seabreeze for a Chocolate Almond Custard. Guaranteed to chill down all the warming your grandkids will ever come up against.

I don't know why I bother. But I will point out that this is adduced from data points, not a rainy spring or the belief that kids no longer ice skate in the winter in this or that location. Your silly post simply illustrates one of the principal contemporary problems in dealing with (to say nothing of combating) anything troubling that brushes up against a status quo and entrenched constituencies: people are unwilling to respect the science and the data that underlie it. As the President would say, using his big vocabulary: sad.

You can't coach someone who doesn't want to be coached....

[seacoaster]

So here's an article about "the data." Like a climate change deniers' calypso dance; go for it!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-america/

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

In those days before widespread refrigeration, workers flocked here to harvest ice. They would carve blocks as much as two feet thick, float them to giant ice houses, sprinkle them with sawdust and load them onto rail cars bound for ice boxes in New York City and beyond

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation.

That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water.

Over the past two decades, the 2 degrees Celsius number has emerged as a critical threshold for global warming. In the 2015 Paris accord, international leaders agreed that the world should act urgently to keep the Earth’s average temperature increases “well below” 2 degrees Celsius by the year 2100 to avoid a host of catastrophic changes.

The potential consequences are daunting. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warns that if Earth heats up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius, virtually all the world’s coral reefs will die; retreating ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica could unleash massive sea level rise; and summertime Arctic sea ice, a shield against further warming, would begin to disappear.

But global warming does not heat the world evenly.

A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Today, more than 1 in 10 Americans — 34 million people — are living in rapidly heating regions, including New York City and Los Angeles. Seventy-one counties have already hit the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Alaska is the fastest-warming state in the country, but Rhode Island is the first state in the Lower 48 whose average temperature rise has eclipsed 2 degrees Celsius. Other parts of the Northeast — New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts — trail close behind.

— While many people associate global warming with summer’s melting glaciers, forest fires and disastrous flooding, it is higher winter temperatures that have made New Jersey and nearby Rhode Island the fastest warming of the Lower 48 states.

The average New Jersey temperature from December through February now exceeds 0 degrees Celsius, the temperature at which water freezes. That threshold, reached over the past three decades, has meant lakes don't freeze as often, snow melts more quickly, and insects and pests don't die as they once did in the harsher cold.

The freezing point “is the most critical threshold among all temperatures,” said David A. Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist and professor at Rutgers University’s department of geography.

The uneven rise in temperatures across the United States matches what is happening around the world."

No worries, right? Just moneyed interests trying to get the leg over on an unsuspecting public, right? So we have palm trees and scorpions for our grandchildren in Irondequoit? BFD.

Great post seacoaster… sure got me thinking. I live in the town of Irondequoit. Bring on the climate change heat... I will visit Amans Farm Market this Friday and inquire when they will stock Orange/Grapefruit/Lemon trees. I can finally dispose of my snow blower and snow shovels. I never realized the benefits I was going to reap from climate change. I bet I can now grow tomatoes damn near all year long. Holy dump and you fear mongers want to deny me this priviledge… damn you coaster... I was just this close to paradise and all you and your fellow fear mongers just pulled the rug right out from under me. Thanks for keeping the Artic tundra back in Upstate NY. There is one benefit... a hot fudge sundae on a cold winter day is healing medicine indeed. How much does your salvation cost us all again? 35 trillion dollars... a small price for all of us folks here in Upstate NY to pay. My recommendation for your grandkids...Dons Original in Seabreeze for a Chocolate Almond Custard. Guaranteed to chill down all the warming your grandkids will ever come up against.

I don't know why I bother. But I will point out that this is adduced from data points, not a rainy spring or the belief that kids no longer ice skate in the winter in this or that location. Your silly post simply illustrates one of the principal contemporary problems in dealing with (to say nothing of combating) anything troubling that brushes up against a status quo and entrenched constituencies: people are unwilling to respect the science and the data that underlie it. As the President would say, using his big vocabulary: sad.

You can't coach someone who doesn't want to be coached....

Yep.

[runrussellrun]

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

PIctures of such events? Got one of one guy fishing with some old car.

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation. Such BS. internet search


That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water. Wrong. Many were cancelled because it was TOO COLD !!!!!

Even the $cienti$ts can't agree on when to close a beach.....BUT......they all agree on the cause. Pollution run off for feces, lawn treatments , storm water, etc. 50 years later, E. Baltimore STILL dumps sewerage into 72's fishing hole. Anyone see the problem here?

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2019/08/at-l ... shine.html

yes, the world NEEDS another cancer NON-profit fun run, potato sack race or jello eating contest, why NOT another "wrong kind of green" We NEED green lawns, weed free.

[seacoaster]

Sigh....

[runrussellrun]

Sigh....

Yup......sure do. Every single time you and others post "weather" stories. Guess you weren't too concerned about the toxic algae bloom in the 80's and 90's, just like today. Post the "nevah gonna snow again" ski resort stories next. I mean, nevah even cold enough to blow snow.

What, you DON"T want to sue Monsanto? Fine them? Dead zones in gulf of where evah.........due to mythical global warming, NOT nitrates, phosphates, etc. Speaking of phosphate, better switch to a HIGHer ratio, full on flower/bud season. Great growing year.

[foreverlax]

because, analysts get it wrong. What do they know.

in my experience - very little.

Now Fixed Income analysts know a whole lot. It's the equity ones that can't outperform a dartboard.

Fixed income guys are always right?

No, but interest rates tell the story that stocks don't. Rates are much more of a leading indicator then stocks.

[runrussellrun]

So here's an article about "the data." Like a climate change deniers' calypso dance; go for it!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-america/

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

In those days before widespread refrigeration, workers flocked here to harvest ice. They would carve blocks as much as two feet thick, float them to giant ice houses, sprinkle them with sawdust and load them onto rail cars bound for ice boxes in New York City and beyond

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation.

That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water.

Over the past two decades, the 2 degrees Celsius number has emerged as a critical threshold for global warming. In the 2015 Paris accord, international leaders agreed that the world should act urgently to keep the Earth’s average temperature increases “well below” 2 degrees Celsius by the year 2100 to avoid a host of catastrophic changes.

The potential consequences are daunting. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warns that if Earth heats up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius, virtually all the world’s coral reefs will die; retreating ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica could unleash massive sea level rise; and summertime Arctic sea ice, a shield against further warming, would begin to disappear.

But global warming does not heat the world evenly.

A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Today, more than 1 in 10 Americans — 34 million people — are living in rapidly heating regions, including New York City and Los Angeles. Seventy-one counties have already hit the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Alaska is the fastest-warming state in the country, but Rhode Island is the first state in the Lower 48 whose average temperature rise has eclipsed 2 degrees Celsius. Other parts of the Northeast — New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts — trail close behind.

— While many people associate global warming with summer’s melting glaciers, forest fires and disastrous flooding, it is higher winter temperatures that have made New Jersey and nearby Rhode Island the fastest warming of the Lower 48 states.

The average New Jersey temperature from December through February now exceeds 0 degrees Celsius, the temperature at which water freezes. That threshold, reached over the past three decades, has meant lakes don't freeze as often, snow melts more quickly, and insects and pests don't die as they once did in the harsher cold.

The freezing point “is the most critical threshold among all temperatures,” said David A. Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist and professor at Rutgers University’s department of geography.

The uneven rise in temperatures across the United States matches what is happening around the world."

No worries, right? Just moneyed interests trying to get the leg over on an unsuspecting public, right? So we have palm trees and scorpions for our grandchildren in Irondequoit? BFD.

Great post seacoaster… sure got me thinking. I live in the town of Irondequoit. Bring on the climate change heat... I will visit Amans Farm Market this Friday and inquire when they will stock Orange/Grapefruit/Lemon trees. I can finally dispose of my snow blower and snow shovels. I never realized the benefits I was going to reap from climate change. I bet I can now grow tomatoes damn near all year long. Holy dump and you fear mongers want to deny me this priviledge… damn you coaster... I was just this close to paradise and all you and your fellow fear mongers just pulled the rug right out from under me. Thanks for keeping the Artic tundra back in Upstate NY. There is one benefit... a hot fudge sundae on a cold winter day is healing medicine indeed. How much does your salvation cost us all again? 35 trillion dollars... a small price for all of us folks here in Upstate NY to pay. My recommendation for your grandkids...Dons Original in Seabreeze for a Chocolate Almond Custard. Guaranteed to chill down all the warming your grandkids will ever come up against.

I don't know why I bother. But I will point out that this is adduced from data points, not a rainy spring or the belief that kids no longer ice skate in the winter in this or that location. Your silly post simply illustrates one of the principal contemporary problems in dealing with (to say nothing of combating) anything troubling that brushes up against a status quo and entrenched constituencies: people are unwilling to respect the science and the data that underlie it. As the President would say, using his big vocabulary: sad.

Does it make you feel better to write "silly" and "why bother" all the time?

Let's address the TOXIC bloom , shall we. What do your data points say the cause is? More charts needed to make me feel smarter than the deniers.

Enjoy yet another 30 degree temp swing today..........meanwhile, your LAWN looks awesome, what DO YOUR USE

[runrussellrun]

You can't coach someone who doesn't want to be coached....

Record setting snowfall for Boston was how many years ago? Write, global warming adds more water vapor (a green house gas, do you disagree?) that comes down as SNOW because....it's...umm.....warmer

Loggin in to type sardonic remarks is childish and unhelpful.

The failure is on you and yours (the carbon tax ), NOT on those NOT making claims like chicken little.

How many municipalities water quality is lacking? exactly.

How do we stop the climate from changing? carbon taxes. yup....that and saving a handful of kHw's because you moved the thermostat a few degrees. And own a hybrid. What makes you think YOU are coachable? What climate are we currently? What climate are we changing too?

[runrussellrun]

DATA.....charts.....DATA.....charts......science. Deny all you want, silly claims that weather will no longer happen.

https://www.onthesnow.com/montana/big-s ... l.html?y=0


More fat.....more thin.......more droughts....more floods......more nonsense.

Meanwhile, toxic plumes, poor water quality have been killing our world for decades.

Oh......can't tax gravity either, magnets have NOTHING to do with weather.

[foreverlax]

You can't coach someone who doesn't want to be coached....

Record setting snowfall for Boston was how many years ago? Write, global warming adds more water vapor (a green house gas, do you disagree?) that comes down as SNOW because....it's...umm.....warmer

Loggin in to type sardonic remarks is childish and unhelpful.

The failure is on you and yours (the carbon tax ), NOT on those NOT making claims like chicken little.

How many municipalities water quality is lacking? exactly.

How do we stop the climate from changing? carbon taxes. yup....that and saving a handful of kHw's because you moved the thermostat a few degrees. And own a hybrid. What makes you think YOU are coachable? What climate are we currently? What climate are we changing too?

Please stop....you believe what you want, I'll do the same.

[cradleandshoot]

So here's an article about "the data." Like a climate change deniers' calypso dance; go for it!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... e-america/

Before climate change thawed the winters of New Jersey, this lake hosted boisterous wintertime carnivals. As many as 15,000 skaters took part, and automobile owners would drive onto the thick ice. Thousands watched as local hockey clubs battled one another and the Skate Sailing Association of America held competitions, including one in 1926 that featured 21 iceboats on blades that sailed over a three-mile course.

In those days before widespread refrigeration, workers flocked here to harvest ice. They would carve blocks as much as two feet thick, float them to giant ice houses, sprinkle them with sawdust and load them onto rail cars bound for ice boxes in New York City and beyond

"These winters do not exist anymore," says Marty Kane, a lawyer and head of the Lake Hopatcong Foundation.

That’s because a century of climbing temperatures has changed the character of the Garden State. The massive ice industry and skate sailing association are but black-and-white photographs at the local museum. And even the hardy souls who still try to take part in ice fishing contests here have had to cancel 11 of the past dozen competitions for fear of straying onto perilously thin ice and tumbling into the frigid water.

Over the past two decades, the 2 degrees Celsius number has emerged as a critical threshold for global warming. In the 2015 Paris accord, international leaders agreed that the world should act urgently to keep the Earth’s average temperature increases “well below” 2 degrees Celsius by the year 2100 to avoid a host of catastrophic changes.

The potential consequences are daunting. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warns that if Earth heats up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius, virtually all the world’s coral reefs will die; retreating ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica could unleash massive sea level rise; and summertime Arctic sea ice, a shield against further warming, would begin to disappear.

But global warming does not heat the world evenly.

A Washington Post analysis of more than a century of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration temperature data across the Lower 48 states and 3,107 counties has found that major areas are nearing or have already crossed the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Today, more than 1 in 10 Americans — 34 million people — are living in rapidly heating regions, including New York City and Los Angeles. Seventy-one counties have already hit the 2-degree Celsius mark.

— Alaska is the fastest-warming state in the country, but Rhode Island is the first state in the Lower 48 whose average temperature rise has eclipsed 2 degrees Celsius. Other parts of the Northeast — New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine and Massachusetts — trail close behind.

— While many people associate global warming with summer’s melting glaciers, forest fires and disastrous flooding, it is higher winter temperatures that have made New Jersey and nearby Rhode Island the fastest warming of the Lower 48 states.

The average New Jersey temperature from December through February now exceeds 0 degrees Celsius, the temperature at which water freezes. That threshold, reached over the past three decades, has meant lakes don't freeze as often, snow melts more quickly, and insects and pests don't die as they once did in the harsher cold.

The freezing point “is the most critical threshold among all temperatures,” said David A. Robinson, New Jersey state climatologist and professor at Rutgers University’s department of geography.

The uneven rise in temperatures across the United States matches what is happening around the world."

No worries, right? Just moneyed interests trying to get the leg over on an unsuspecting public, right? So we have palm trees and scorpions for our grandchildren in Irondequoit? BFD.

Great post seacoaster… sure got me thinking. I live in the town of Irondequoit. Bring on the climate change heat... I will visit Amans Farm Market this Friday and inquire when they will stock Orange/Grapefruit/Lemon trees. I can finally dispose of my snow blower and snow shovels. I never realized the benefits I was going to reap from climate change. I bet I can now grow tomatoes damn near all year long. Holy dump and you fear mongers want to deny me this priviledge… damn you coaster... I was just this close to paradise and all you and your fellow fear mongers just pulled the rug right out from under me. Thanks for keeping the Artic tundra back in Upstate NY. There is one benefit... a hot fudge sundae on a cold winter day is healing medicine indeed. How much does your salvation cost us all again? 35 trillion dollars... a small price for all of us folks here in Upstate NY to pay. My recommendation for your grandkids...Dons Original in Seabreeze for a Chocolate Almond Custard. Guaranteed to chill down all the warming your grandkids will ever come up against.

I don't know why I bother. But I will point out that this is adduced from data points, not a rainy spring or the belief that kids no longer ice skate in the winter in this or that location. Your silly post simply illustrates one of the principal contemporary problems in dealing with (to say nothing of combating) anything troubling that brushes up against a status quo and entrenched constituencies: people are unwilling to respect the science and the data that underlie it. As the President would say, using his big vocabulary: sad.

I don't know why I bother either. I was jerking your chain spanky. What is really sad is that you get your panties so twisted up in knots. I am going to check at Amans about the citrus trees for next spring. We have a difference of opinion. You are all wrapped up in your security blanket of scientific knowledge you believe them to be incapable of ever being wrong. I believe humans are incapable of changing the climate on our planet. I have read and observed 45 years now of scientists predicting doom and gloom and ultimately cataclysmic devastation all over the planet. They have been wrong for 45 plus years. They are way smarter now. This is the new age of scientists. They got it nailed down now. We just have to do all the goofy stuff all the special interest folks tell us we must do. No more internal combustion engines... no more hamburgers... only renewable energy and only electric cars. We can't forget investing 35 trillion to make this all happen so we can save the planet. The only thing the planet needs to be saved from is you jackwagons that think you need to save the planet.

[runrussellrun]

You can't coach someone who doesn't want to be coached....

Record setting snowfall for Boston was how many years ago? Write, global warming adds more water vapor (a green house gas, do you disagree?) that comes down as SNOW because....it's...umm.....warmer

Loggin in to type sardonic remarks is childish and unhelpful.

The failure is on you and yours (the carbon tax ), NOT on those NOT making claims like chicken little.

How many municipalities water quality is lacking? exactly.

How do we stop the climate from changing? carbon taxes. yup....that and saving a handful of kHw's because you moved the thermostat a few degrees. And own a hybrid. What makes you think YOU are coachable? What climate are we currently? What climate are we changing too?

Please stop....you believe what you want, I'll do the same.

Believe? What is all this talk about "believe". Was the record setting , all time (less than 200 years ) NOT the winter of 2014-15?

This TOPIC.....this LAKE (in New Jersey ).....TOXIC.

Is this a matter of "belief", or a topic that just doesn't seem to mess with your "liberalism"

profits before people........says the pretends

[foreverlax]

You can't coach someone who doesn't want to be coached....

Record setting snowfall for Boston was how many years ago? Write, global warming adds more water vapor (a green house gas, do you disagree?) that comes down as SNOW because....it's...umm.....warmer

Loggin in to type sardonic remarks is childish and unhelpful.

The failure is on you and yours (the carbon tax ), NOT on those NOT making claims like chicken little.

How many municipalities water quality is lacking? exactly.

How do we stop the climate from changing? carbon taxes. yup....that and saving a handful of kHw's because you moved the thermostat a few degrees. And own a hybrid. What makes you think YOU are coachable? What climate are we currently? What climate are we changing too?

Please stop....you believe what you want, I'll do the same.

Believe? What is all this talk about "believe".

This TOPIC.....this LAKE (in New Jersey ).....TOXIC.

Is this a matter of "belief", or a topic that just doesn't seem to mess with your "liberalism"

profits before people........says the pretends

Again, I have no idea what you are trying to say...or ask.

Respectfully, can you can keep your assertions and generalizations about me to yourself? Got a question that you would like me to answer, ask it clearly and I'll do my best.