All Things China

[a fan]

This makes it harder for them to wait 'til after the elections. The (D)'s are already onboard because of IP theft, tech xsfr & fentanyl. Will the (D)'s cut them more slack on human rights than Trump does ?

Makes my point for me.

What happens if Dems fall in line with Trump (whether he's President or not), and the US digs its heels in, and China does the same? Now what?

We're not prepared. Get prepared. Work to get other markets for American producers, and I'm on board.

Also, get out military ready for a Cold War.



As for waiting for the election, China has to do it. They have no choice but to see if they can get a "better" dealmaker. Better from China's perspective, obviously.

[youthathletics]

Not that it is directly related to the point you are talking about, but there are rumblings that the financial state of many major countries are are in some state of question/confusion. So much so that bonds are yielding negatively.

I am merely throwing a grenade over the wall as a taking point, but one could make a case that seeing the US challenge the giant in China, is causing others go into their shell so they can sit back and watch; essentially not to pick a side but also stick it to China?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Not that it is directly related to the point you are talking about, but there are rumblings that the financial state of many major countries are are in some state of question/confusion. So much so that bonds are yielding negatively.

I am merely throwing a grenade over the wall as a taking point, but one could make a case that seeing the US challenge the giant in China, is causing others go into their shell so they can sit back and watch; essentially not to pick a side but also stick it to China?

SMH

[old salt]

This makes it harder for them to wait 'til after the elections. The (D)'s are already onboard because of IP theft, tech xsfr & fentanyl. Will the (D)'s cut them more slack on human rights than Trump does ?

Makes my point for me.

What happens if Dems fall in line with Trump (whether he's President or not), and the US digs its heels in, and China does the same? Now what?

We're not prepared. Get prepared. Work to get other markets for American producers, and I'm on board.

Also, get out military ready for a Cold War.

As for waiting for the election, China has to do it. They have no choice but to see if they can get a "better" dealmaker. Better from China's perspective, obviously.

Hong Kong, when part of the British Empire, was a fantastic place.
It was magical (from the perspective of this Senior Shore Patrol Officer).
Two upcoming US Navy port visits cancelled.
It's heartbreaking to see what the ChiComm's have done to it.
It's a cautionary tale for any belt & road partners.
This can only help the US, from trade & strategic perspectives.
Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

[a fan]

Hong Kong, when part of the British Empire, was a fantastic place.
It was magical (from the perspective of this Senior Shore Patrol Officer).
Two upcoming US Navy port visits cancelled.
It's heartbreaking to see what the ChiComm's have done to it.

I can only imagine what the world looks like from the deck of a Navy ship. Quite a life, I'd think. Tip of the hat, sir.

This can only help the US, from trade & strategic perspectives.

I'd replace the phrase "can only", with the word "might".

We have no clue what's going on with Chinese leadership. They could easily feel backed into a corner...and that has full unpredictable outcomes.

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Can't remember Trump ever discussing human rights. So I don't think he's "playing".

[Trinity]

Did the Trump/amusement park deal in Indonesia including Chinese government money finally close? How does that figure in? What about his Korean deal? How many governments can one man milk? Along with “Human Rights” we’ve never heard “Conflict of Interest.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/ ... nt-1390736

[a fan]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

[Typical Lax Dad]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

Obama was just too uppity.

[old salt]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Hong Kong is a former British colony. The UK agreed with China on Hong Kong's transition. The UK is a UN Security Council member.
Why is this an issue crying out for US leadership ? Where's the UK & our ASEAN allies ? ....afraid to speak out ?

[foreverlax]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Hong Kong is a former British colony. The UK agreed with China on Hong Kong's transition. The UK is a UN Security Council member.
Why is this an issue crying out for US leadership ? Where's the UK & our ASEAN allies ? ....afraid to speak out ?

We used to be the country that cared about human rights violations over money....not so much under Trump.

[Trinity]

Boris Johnson comes in limp on Day One. Typical.

[old salt]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Hong Kong is a former British colony. The UK agreed with China on Hong Kong's transition. The UK is a UN Security Council member.
Why is this an issue crying out for US leadership ? Where's the UK & our ASEAN allies ? ....afraid to speak out ?

We used to be the country that cared about human rights violations over money....not so much under Trump.

Empty rhetoric, with no follow up coercion, is counter productive.
Trump is fulfilling his campaign promise to not meddle in the affairs of other nations.
Money or not. This is no different than Ukraine.

[foreverlax]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Hong Kong is a former British colony. The UK agreed with China on Hong Kong's transition. The UK is a UN Security Council member.
Why is this an issue crying out for US leadership ? Where's the UK & our ASEAN allies ? ....afraid to speak out ?

We used to be the country that cared about human rights violations over money....not so much under Trump.

Empty rhetoric, with no follow up coercion, is counter productive.
Trump is fulfilling his campaign promise to not meddle in the affairs of other nations.
Money or not. This is no different than Ukraine.

Meddling is all he does - "Israel Denies Entry to Omar and Tlaib After Trump’s Call to Block Them"

[Trinity]

Trump won’t support the Moscow demonstrations, either. They can come here, of course, attack the election, buy the Senate. Meh.

[old salt]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Hong Kong is a former British colony. The UK agreed with China on Hong Kong's transition. The UK is a UN Security Council member.
Why is this an issue crying out for US leadership ? Where's the UK & our ASEAN allies ? ....afraid to speak out ?

We used to be the country that cared about human rights violations over money....not so much under Trump.

Empty rhetoric, with no follow up coercion, is counter productive.
Trump is fulfilling his campaign promise to not meddle in the affairs of other nations.
Money or not. This is no different than Ukraine.

Meddling is all he does - "Israel Denies Entry to Omar and Tlaib After Trump’s Call to Block Them"

He's just agreeing with a close ally's PM.

[foreverlax]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Hong Kong is a former British colony. The UK agreed with China on Hong Kong's transition. The UK is a UN Security Council member.
Why is this an issue crying out for US leadership ? Where's the UK & our ASEAN allies ? ....afraid to speak out ?

We used to be the country that cared about human rights violations over money....not so much under Trump.

Empty rhetoric, with no follow up coercion, is counter productive.
Trump is fulfilling his campaign promise to not meddle in the affairs of other nations.
Money or not. This is no different than Ukraine.

Meddling is all he does - "Israel Denies Entry to Omar and Tlaib After Trump’s Call to Block Them"

He's just agreeing with a close ally's PM.

Guess we could call that "meddling with an excuse".....

[old salt]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Hong Kong is a former British colony. The UK agreed with China on Hong Kong's transition. The UK is a UN Security Council member.
Why is this an issue crying out for US leadership ? Where's the UK & our ASEAN allies ? ....afraid to speak out ?

We used to be the country that cared about human rights violations over money....not so much under Trump.

Empty rhetoric, with no follow up coercion, is counter productive.
Trump is fulfilling his campaign promise to not meddle in the affairs of other nations.
Money or not. This is no different than Ukraine.

Meddling is all he does - "Israel Denies Entry to Omar and Tlaib After Trump’s Call to Block Them"

He's just agreeing with a close ally's PM.

Guess we could call that "meddling with an excuse".....

We have no idea how this came about between Bebe & Trump, but don't let that stop you from speculating.

[foreverlax]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Hong Kong is a former British colony. The UK agreed with China on Hong Kong's transition. The UK is a UN Security Council member.
Why is this an issue crying out for US leadership ? Where's the UK & our ASEAN allies ? ....afraid to speak out ?

We used to be the country that cared about human rights violations over money....not so much under Trump.

Empty rhetoric, with no follow up coercion, is counter productive.
Trump is fulfilling his campaign promise to not meddle in the affairs of other nations.
Money or not. This is no different than Ukraine.

Meddling is all he does - "Israel Denies Entry to Omar and Tlaib After Trump’s Call to Block Them"

He's just agreeing with a close ally's PM.

Guess we could call that "meddling with an excuse".....

We have no idea how this came about between Bebe & Trump, but don't let that stop you from speculating.

I'm not speculating....Trump does Trump without regard for the consequences. We've seen that his whole life.

[a fan]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Don't understand your response. You were praising Trump for not making HR comments about Hong Gong....and then he did just that via tweet, prompting an annoyed response from the Chinese.

You're supposed to be upset that he did that.

[old salt]

Trump's playing it right. An Obama style lofty HR lecture would not be helpful right now.

Spoke too soon....

.. Why blame China when you can blame Trump.

Don't understand your response. You were praising Trump for not making HR comments about Hong Gong....and then he did just that via tweet, prompting an annoyed response from the Chinese.

You're supposed to be upset that he did that.

I missed his tweet & China's response. Show me.