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Re: The Mueller Report and Impeachment

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:39 am
old salt wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:39 pm
Trinity wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:34 am Trump should nominate retiring Rep Will Hurd, who has experience in the field. Do something for America for once.
This evening Hurd said it was unfortunate -- that his friend & fellow Intel Comm member Ratcliffe would have made a good DNI,
...but then what does Hurd know ?
ggait wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:34 pm So Trump says that he lets the press, not the WH, vet his nominees. Press does a good job at that and saves lots of money as compared to having the WH staff actually do their jobs. But in this case, the press did a bad/unfair job on the Rat.

Forking moron.
Ratcliffe was as qualified as Coats for the DNI job. He just wasn't part of the Senate old boys club.
He was stigmatized as a FNC defender of Trump. He became a pinata for the anti-Trump NBC/ABC/WP/NYT MSM as soon as he defended Trump during the Mueller hearing. Dead man walking -- he didn't even survive to the yearbook search phase.

Here's some depth on Ratcliffe's involvement with the Holy Land case & his anti-terrorism experience as a US Attorney :
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald- ... orism-case
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/30/fo ... tion-case/

We haven't heard the last from Ratcliffe. When the House holds hearings on the IG & DoJ investigations of the investigators, he'll be the leading (R) prosecutor.
Good lord, you actually think the Rat was remotely qualified???
As a liar, yes, but not DNI.

Coats was indeed not very well qualified for the position, relative to his predecessors and relative to the job description. True. But way, way, way more qualified than the Rat. 15 years on the Senate Intelligence Select Committee, 4 years as an Ambassador to Germany, 6 years as a Congressman, served in the Army. The Rat? No military service, 4 years on the highly politicized House Intelligence and Homeland Security Committees. Bunch of false statements, tweets, his only 'qualification' was his his partisanship. "stigmatized"? He's a jerk and a liar, with no real experience or long term perspective. Own it.

This is the sort of baloney, along with your continuous postings of right wing blogs that propound quite unsubstantiated, indeed often disproven, conspiracy theories, that undermines so greatly any credibility you might otherwise have.

Yup, the Rat will undoubtedly be the jerk he is, at every opportunity. But now that the public actually knows that he's a liar and a complete partisan, his credibility in any such 'prosecutor' effort will be seen for what it is.

Re Hurd, you grossly misrepresent what he said. He indeed says some nice things about his capabilities to absorb lots of information, something that the next DNI will need, but he doesn't say he would have been a good DNI or a qualified choice, indeed he pivots to endorsing Sue Gordon for her 'vast experience' in intelligence, then he describes his own immense experience, and tremendous respect for the work and people of the IC. Big contrast with his 'friend' Ratcliffe.

Of course, that's why Trump apparently never considered Hurd. "Doesn't know him".
You're so full of hot air. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Hurd listed the qualities that Ratcliffe had which would have qualified him to be DNI.
It would have been considered a positive endorsement if he were still a candidate.

You have no idea what training Ratcliffe had in that anti-terrorism & national security US Atty job.
It wasn't just a title. You don't know what intel streams he had access to or what cases he reviewed in that job.

Coats brief military experience was irrelevant unless he was in an intel branch or rose high enough in rank to hold a job where he reviewed intel reports.

Wait & see how the things i've posted from "right wing blogs" prove out compared to your disproven TDS conspiracy rants.
On LP, when Flynn joined Trump's campaign, I predicted we'd see the war within the IC play out if Trump won.
As soon as Ratcliffe defended Trump, he became as big a MSM target as Flynn did when he lead the lock her up chant.
Look how fast the MSM (& you) turned on Barr.
I used the term "Deep State" when the NSA intercepts of Flynn's calls were leaked, before FNC or the RW blogosphere picked up the term.

Your condescending blather about things that don't comport with your preferences will not make them go away.
There's some rough seas ahead for you TDS'ers.
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Re: The Mueller Report and Impeachment

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old salt wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:28 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:39 am
old salt wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:39 pm
Trinity wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:34 am Trump should nominate retiring Rep Will Hurd, who has experience in the field. Do something for America for once.
This evening Hurd said it was unfortunate -- that his friend & fellow Intel Comm member Ratcliffe would have made a good DNI,
...but then what does Hurd know ?
ggait wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:34 pm So Trump says that he lets the press, not the WH, vet his nominees. Press does a good job at that and saves lots of money as compared to having the WH staff actually do their jobs. But in this case, the press did a bad/unfair job on the Rat.

Forking moron.
Ratcliffe was as qualified as Coats for the DNI job. He just wasn't part of the Senate old boys club.
He was stigmatized as a FNC defender of Trump. He became a pinata for the anti-Trump NBC/ABC/WP/NYT MSM as soon as he defended Trump during the Mueller hearing. Dead man walking -- he didn't even survive to the yearbook search phase.

Here's some depth on Ratcliffe's involvement with the Holy Land case & his anti-terrorism experience as a US Attorney :
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald- ... orism-case
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/30/fo ... tion-case/

We haven't heard the last from Ratcliffe. When the House holds hearings on the IG & DoJ investigations of the investigators, he'll be the leading (R) prosecutor.
Good lord, you actually think the Rat was remotely qualified???
As a liar, yes, but not DNI.

Coats was indeed not very well qualified for the position, relative to his predecessors and relative to the job description. True. But way, way, way more qualified than the Rat. 15 years on the Senate Intelligence Select Committee, 4 years as an Ambassador to Germany, 6 years as a Congressman, served in the Army. The Rat? No military service, 4 years on the highly politicized House Intelligence and Homeland Security Committees. Bunch of false statements, tweets, his only 'qualification' was his his partisanship. "stigmatized"? He's a jerk and a liar, with no real experience or long term perspective. Own it.

This is the sort of baloney, along with your continuous postings of right wing blogs that propound quite unsubstantiated, indeed often disproven, conspiracy theories, that undermines so greatly any credibility you might otherwise have.

Yup, the Rat will undoubtedly be the jerk he is, at every opportunity. But now that the public actually knows that he's a liar and a complete partisan, his credibility in any such 'prosecutor' effort will be seen for what it is.

Re Hurd, you grossly misrepresent what he said. He indeed says some nice things about his capabilities to absorb lots of information, something that the next DNI will need, but he doesn't say he would have been a good DNI or a qualified choice, indeed he pivots to endorsing Sue Gordon for her 'vast experience' in intelligence, then he describes his own immense experience, and tremendous respect for the work and people of the IC. Big contrast with his 'friend' Ratcliffe.

Of course, that's why Trump apparently never considered Hurd. "Doesn't know him".
You're so full of hot air. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Hurd listed the qualities that Ratcliffe had which would have qualified him to be DNI.
It would have been considered a positive endorsement if he were still a candidate.

You have no idea what training Ratcliffe had in that anti-terrorism & national security US Atty job.
It wasn't just a title. You don't know what intel streams he had access to or what cases he reviewed in that job.

Coats brief military experience was irrelevant unless he was in an intel branch or rose high enough in rank to hold a job where he reviewed intel reports.

Wait & see how the things i've posted from "right wing blogs" prove out compared to your disproven TDS conspiracy rants.
On LP, when Flynn joined Trump's campaign, I predicted we'd see the war within the IC play out if Trump won.
As soon as Ratcliffe defended Trump, he became as big a MSM target as Flynn did when he lead the lock her up chant.
Look how fast the MSM (& you) turned on Barr.
I used the term "Deep State" when the NSA intercepts of Flynn's calls were leaked, before FNC or the RW blogosphere picked up the term.

Your condescending blather about things that don't comport with your preferences will not make them go away.
There's some rough seas ahead for you TDS'ers.
Don’t know a lot of those things. Do know he is a liar and was caught lying.
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Re: The Mueller Report and Impeachment

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:49 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:28 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:39 am
old salt wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:39 pm
Trinity wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:34 am Trump should nominate retiring Rep Will Hurd, who has experience in the field. Do something for America for once.
This evening Hurd said it was unfortunate -- that his friend & fellow Intel Comm member Ratcliffe would have made a good DNI,
...but then what does Hurd know ?
ggait wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:34 pm So Trump says that he lets the press, not the WH, vet his nominees. Press does a good job at that and saves lots of money as compared to having the WH staff actually do their jobs. But in this case, the press did a bad/unfair job on the Rat.

Forking moron.
Ratcliffe was as qualified as Coats for the DNI job. He just wasn't part of the Senate old boys club.
He was stigmatized as a FNC defender of Trump. He became a pinata for the anti-Trump NBC/ABC/WP/NYT MSM as soon as he defended Trump during the Mueller hearing. Dead man walking -- he didn't even survive to the yearbook search phase.

Here's some depth on Ratcliffe's involvement with the Holy Land case & his anti-terrorism experience as a US Attorney :
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald- ... orism-case
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/30/fo ... tion-case/

We haven't heard the last from Ratcliffe. When the House holds hearings on the IG & DoJ investigations of the investigators, he'll be the leading (R) prosecutor.
Good lord, you actually think the Rat was remotely qualified???
As a liar, yes, but not DNI.

Coats was indeed not very well qualified for the position, relative to his predecessors and relative to the job description. True. But way, way, way more qualified than the Rat. 15 years on the Senate Intelligence Select Committee, 4 years as an Ambassador to Germany, 6 years as a Congressman, served in the Army. The Rat? No military service, 4 years on the highly politicized House Intelligence and Homeland Security Committees. Bunch of false statements, tweets, his only 'qualification' was his his partisanship. "stigmatized"? He's a jerk and a liar, with no real experience or long term perspective. Own it.

This is the sort of baloney, along with your continuous postings of right wing blogs that propound quite unsubstantiated, indeed often disproven, conspiracy theories, that undermines so greatly any credibility you might otherwise have.

Yup, the Rat will undoubtedly be the jerk he is, at every opportunity. But now that the public actually knows that he's a liar and a complete partisan, his credibility in any such 'prosecutor' effort will be seen for what it is.

Re Hurd, you grossly misrepresent what he said. He indeed says some nice things about his capabilities to absorb lots of information, something that the next DNI will need, but he doesn't say he would have been a good DNI or a qualified choice, indeed he pivots to endorsing Sue Gordon for her 'vast experience' in intelligence, then he describes his own immense experience, and tremendous respect for the work and people of the IC. Big contrast with his 'friend' Ratcliffe.

Of course, that's why Trump apparently never considered Hurd. "Doesn't know him".
You're so full of hot air. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Hurd listed the qualities that Ratcliffe had which would have qualified him to be DNI.
It would have been considered a positive endorsement if he were still a candidate.

You have no idea what training Ratcliffe had in that anti-terrorism & national security US Atty job.
It wasn't just a title. You don't know what intel streams he had access to or what cases he reviewed in that job.

Coats brief military experience was irrelevant unless he was in an intel branch or rose high enough in rank to hold a job where he reviewed intel reports.

Wait & see how the things i've posted from "right wing blogs" prove out compared to your disproven TDS conspiracy rants.
On LP, when Flynn joined Trump's campaign, I predicted we'd see the war within the IC play out if Trump won.
As soon as Ratcliffe defended Trump, he became as big a MSM target as Flynn did when he lead the lock her up chant.
Look how fast the MSM (& you) turned on Barr.
I used the term "Deep State" when the NSA intercepts of Flynn's calls were leaked, before FNC or the RW blogosphere picked up the term.

Your condescending blather about things that don't comport with your preferences will not make them go away.
There's some rough seas ahead for you TDS'ers.
Don’t know a lot of those things. Do know he is a liar and was caught lying.
Salty, that's a lot of baloney. Or 'blather' if you'd prefer.

I had an open mind as to what Hurd might have said about his colleague, but I actually listened. He was damning with faint praise about the Rat, while not alienating anyone in the process. By contrast, he was downright effusive about Sue Gordon. Huge difference in tone. Then he went on to make clear how he feels about the IC, which he needn't say aloud is totally the opposite of what the Rat says...The emphasis is unmistakable.
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Re: The Mueller Report and Impeachment

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old salt wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:28 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:39 am
old salt wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:39 pm
Trinity wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:34 am Trump should nominate retiring Rep Will Hurd, who has experience in the field. Do something for America for once.
This evening Hurd said it was unfortunate -- that his friend & fellow Intel Comm member Ratcliffe would have made a good DNI,
...but then what does Hurd know ?
ggait wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:34 pm So Trump says that he lets the press, not the WH, vet his nominees. Press does a good job at that and saves lots of money as compared to having the WH staff actually do their jobs. But in this case, the press did a bad/unfair job on the Rat.

Forking moron.
Ratcliffe was as qualified as Coats for the DNI job. He just wasn't part of the Senate old boys club.
He was stigmatized as a FNC defender of Trump. He became a pinata for the anti-Trump NBC/ABC/WP/NYT MSM as soon as he defended Trump during the Mueller hearing. Dead man walking -- he didn't even survive to the yearbook search phase.

Here's some depth on Ratcliffe's involvement with the Holy Land case & his anti-terrorism experience as a US Attorney :
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald- ... orism-case
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/30/fo ... tion-case/

We haven't heard the last from Ratcliffe. When the House holds hearings on the IG & DoJ investigations of the investigators, he'll be the leading (R) prosecutor.
Good lord, you actually think the Rat was remotely qualified???
As a liar, yes, but not DNI.

Coats was indeed not very well qualified for the position, relative to his predecessors and relative to the job description. True. But way, way, way more qualified than the Rat. 15 years on the Senate Intelligence Select Committee, 4 years as an Ambassador to Germany, 6 years as a Congressman, served in the Army. The Rat? No military service, 4 years on the highly politicized House Intelligence and Homeland Security Committees. Bunch of false statements, tweets, his only 'qualification' was his his partisanship. "stigmatized"? He's a jerk and a liar, with no real experience or long term perspective. Own it.

This is the sort of baloney, along with your continuous postings of right wing blogs that propound quite unsubstantiated, indeed often disproven, conspiracy theories, that undermines so greatly any credibility you might otherwise have.

Yup, the Rat will undoubtedly be the jerk he is, at every opportunity. But now that the public actually knows that he's a liar and a complete partisan, his credibility in any such 'prosecutor' effort will be seen for what it is.

Re Hurd, you grossly misrepresent what he said. He indeed says some nice things about his capabilities to absorb lots of information, something that the next DNI will need, but he doesn't say he would have been a good DNI or a qualified choice, indeed he pivots to endorsing Sue Gordon for her 'vast experience' in intelligence, then he describes his own immense experience, and tremendous respect for the work and people of the IC. Big contrast with his 'friend' Ratcliffe.

Of course, that's why Trump apparently never considered Hurd. "Doesn't know him".
You're so full of hot air. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Hurd listed the qualities that Ratcliffe had which would have qualified him to be DNI.
It would have been considered a positive endorsement if he were still a candidate.

You have no idea what training Ratcliffe had in that anti-terrorism & national security US Atty job.
It wasn't just a title. You don't know what intel streams he had access to or what cases he reviewed in that job.

Coats brief military experience was irrelevant unless he was in an intel branch or rose high enough in rank to hold a job where he reviewed intel reports.

Wait & see how the things i've posted from "right wing blogs" prove out compared to your disproven TDS conspiracy rants.
On LP, when Flynn joined Trump's campaign, I predicted we'd see the war within the IC play out if Trump won.
As soon as Ratcliffe defended Trump, he became as big a MSM target as Flynn did when he lead the lock her up chant.
Look how fast the MSM (& you) turned on Barr.
I used the term "Deep State" when the NSA intercepts of Flynn's calls were leaked, before FNC or the RW blogosphere picked up the term.

Your condescending blather about things that don't comport with your preferences will not make them go away.
There's some rough seas ahead for you TDS'ers.
I don't like playing favorites but if I have to choose between the RINO MD and Old Salt... The US Navy vet wins this discussion hands down all day long. As much as I despise Republicans... RINOs are an even lower form of the party... they don't have the intestinal fortitude to choose which side of the fence they want to be on. They are just fat dumb and happy ripping everyone to shreds. RINOs have no core values. They survive by licking their finger and seeing what way the political wind is blowing and fly their kite in that direction. Maybe some day MD you will grow a set of balls, find yourself a set of core values and stick with them. You have stated here that you are a true conservative at heart. The problem is all of your verbiage posted here defines you as a limp flag blowing in whatever direction the wind is blowing.

I don't represent conservatives in any way outside of believing in being fiscally responsible... a notion that the Republicans and Democrats have blown all to hell. I have to admit MD, I have read your posts here for awhile now and I have no clue what the hell you believe in. You are a RINO who opines against all Republicans all day long. You are a RINO who has more in common with the Democrats than his own party. I only hope some day MD you fall on one side of the fence or the other. Your constantly tight roping on the middle is becoming more than ridiculous. It is becoming pathetic. If your a freaking Republican... stand up for them. If they are pissing you off to no end... find another party to support. If you really are a conservative, which I doubt more every day, become something that you can believe in and roll with it.


As for myself... I am still looking. Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives and Liberals they can all go to hell as far as I am concerned. IMO there are no politicians out there that represent me or what concerns me. What concerns me the most is a nation learning to live within its means. That simple idea sailed off into the sunset a long time ago. How many trillion dollars a year are we adding in debt? How long can our nation keep doing this? Maybe I should run my personal finances the same way? Max out all the cards, buy what I want, do what I want to do and why should I care what happens in the end? What really pisses me off... NOBODY IN WASHINGTON DC CARES. :evil:
I use to be a people person until people ruined that for me.
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Re: The Mueller Report and Impeachment

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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:09 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:28 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:39 am
old salt wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:39 pm
Trinity wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:34 am Trump should nominate retiring Rep Will Hurd, who has experience in the field. Do something for America for once.
This evening Hurd said it was unfortunate -- that his friend & fellow Intel Comm member Ratcliffe would have made a good DNI,
...but then what does Hurd know ?
ggait wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:34 pm So Trump says that he lets the press, not the WH, vet his nominees. Press does a good job at that and saves lots of money as compared to having the WH staff actually do their jobs. But in this case, the press did a bad/unfair job on the Rat.

Forking moron.
Ratcliffe was as qualified as Coats for the DNI job. He just wasn't part of the Senate old boys club.
He was stigmatized as a FNC defender of Trump. He became a pinata for the anti-Trump NBC/ABC/WP/NYT MSM as soon as he defended Trump during the Mueller hearing. Dead man walking -- he didn't even survive to the yearbook search phase.

Here's some depth on Ratcliffe's involvement with the Holy Land case & his anti-terrorism experience as a US Attorney :
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald- ... orism-case
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/30/fo ... tion-case/

We haven't heard the last from Ratcliffe. When the House holds hearings on the IG & DoJ investigations of the investigators, he'll be the leading (R) prosecutor.
Good lord, you actually think the Rat was remotely qualified???
As a liar, yes, but not DNI.

Coats was indeed not very well qualified for the position, relative to his predecessors and relative to the job description. True. But way, way, way more qualified than the Rat. 15 years on the Senate Intelligence Select Committee, 4 years as an Ambassador to Germany, 6 years as a Congressman, served in the Army. The Rat? No military service, 4 years on the highly politicized House Intelligence and Homeland Security Committees. Bunch of false statements, tweets, his only 'qualification' was his his partisanship. "stigmatized"? He's a jerk and a liar, with no real experience or long term perspective. Own it.

This is the sort of baloney, along with your continuous postings of right wing blogs that propound quite unsubstantiated, indeed often disproven, conspiracy theories, that undermines so greatly any credibility you might otherwise have.

Yup, the Rat will undoubtedly be the jerk he is, at every opportunity. But now that the public actually knows that he's a liar and a complete partisan, his credibility in any such 'prosecutor' effort will be seen for what it is.

Re Hurd, you grossly misrepresent what he said. He indeed says some nice things about his capabilities to absorb lots of information, something that the next DNI will need, but he doesn't say he would have been a good DNI or a qualified choice, indeed he pivots to endorsing Sue Gordon for her 'vast experience' in intelligence, then he describes his own immense experience, and tremendous respect for the work and people of the IC. Big contrast with his 'friend' Ratcliffe.

Of course, that's why Trump apparently never considered Hurd. "Doesn't know him".
You're so full of hot air. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Hurd listed the qualities that Ratcliffe had which would have qualified him to be DNI.
It would have been considered a positive endorsement if he were still a candidate.

You have no idea what training Ratcliffe had in that anti-terrorism & national security US Atty job.
It wasn't just a title. You don't know what intel streams he had access to or what cases he reviewed in that job.

Coats brief military experience was irrelevant unless he was in an intel branch or rose high enough in rank to hold a job where he reviewed intel reports.

Wait & see how the things i've posted from "right wing blogs" prove out compared to your disproven TDS conspiracy rants.
On LP, when Flynn joined Trump's campaign, I predicted we'd see the war within the IC play out if Trump won.
As soon as Ratcliffe defended Trump, he became as big a MSM target as Flynn did when he lead the lock her up chant.
Look how fast the MSM (& you) turned on Barr.
I used the term "Deep State" when the NSA intercepts of Flynn's calls were leaked, before FNC or the RW blogosphere picked up the term.

Your condescending blather about things that don't comport with your preferences will not make them go away.
There's some rough seas ahead for you TDS'ers.
I don't like playing favorites but if I have to choose between the RINO MD and Old Salt... The US Navy vet wins this discussion hands down all day long. As much as I despise Republicans... RINOs are an even lower form of the party... they don't have the intestinal fortitude to choose which side of the fence they want to be on. They are just fat dumb and happy ripping everyone to shreds. RINOs have no core values. They survive by licking their finger and seeing what way the political wind is blowing and fly their kite in that direction. Maybe some day MD you will grow a set of balls, find yourself a set of core values and stick with them. You have stated here that you are a true conservative at heart. The problem is all of your verbiage posted here defines you as a limp flag blowing in whatever direction the wind is blowing.

I don't represent conservatives in any way outside of believing in being fiscally responsible... a notion that the Republicans and Democrats have blown all to hell. I have to admit MD, I have read your posts here for awhile now and I have no clue what the hell you believe in. You are a RINO who opines against all Republicans all day long. You are a RINO who has more in common with the Democrats than his own party. I only hope some day MD you fall on one side of the fence or the other. Your constantly tight roping on the middle is becoming more than ridiculous. It is becoming pathetic. If your a freaking Republican... stand up for them. If they are pissing you off to no end... find another party to support. If you really are a conservative, which I doubt more every day, become something that you can believe in and roll with it.


As for myself... I am still looking. Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives and Liberals they can all go to hell as far as I am concerned. IMO there are no politicians out there that represent me or what concerns me. What concerns me the most is a nation learning to live within its means. That simple idea sailed off into the sunset a long time ago. How many trillion dollars a year are we adding in debt? How long can our nation keep doing this? Maybe I should run my personal finances the same way? Max out all the cards, buy what I want, do what I want to do and why should I care what happens in the end? What really pisses me off... NOBODY IN WASHINGTON DC CARES. :evil:
You ok with liars?
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Re: The Mueller Report and Impeachment

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Pete Hoekstra was chairman or ranking member of the House Intel Comm for seven years & is now our Amb to the Netherlands.
If Trump nominates him for DNI, watch what the MSM does to him.
Are Porter Goss & David Petraeus warming up in the bullpen ?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... 93ae1ae371

The embattled U.S. Ambassador to the Netherlands Peter Hoekstra apologized Friday for making unsubstantiated anti-Muslim claims at a conference in 2015, after his first week in the post was clouded by questions about the incendiary statements.

Hoekstra, a former Republican congressman from Michigan and recent political appointee, made the apology during an interview Friday with De Telegraaf, one of the largest Dutch newspapers, at the end of a particularly rough introduction for the new ambassador.

“Looking back, I am shocked I said that,” he told the newspaper. “It was a wrong statement. It was wrong.”

Hoekstra made the remarks in question during a conference on terrorism hosted by the right-wing David Horowitz Freedom Center. He talked about the supposed “chaos” brought to Europe by immigrants from Islamic countries and repeated a baseless theory about so-called “no-go zones” that is popular in right-wing media.
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Trying to understand why anyone especially after the Kavanaugh hearings and other commentary would work in the government. It is brutal IMHO.
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HAVE YOU BOOFED YET?

Brett, the coolest senior ever at Prep, says under oath that this is about farting. Not cramming drugs up his butt. Twelfth grade, finally ripped one. Yearbook worthy. Don McGahn warns the WH a fulsome Investigation of Brett’s conduct over the years would be disastrous. So the FBI takes a dive. Yeah. Poor Brett.

Pro tip— don’t leave a trail of women who think you’ve abused them. Friends of Renate.
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If I had a nickel for every stupid thing I have said and done starting from middle school until now I could have retired sooner on my nickels. That would include both military and business. We all have dirt.
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I was an idiot too and later I was asked to run for office. I had the sense to say no.
Brett lied under oath. We all saw it. Saturday Night Live mocked it He should be done. These guys aren’t held to the standards a foot cop has to meet.
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LandM wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:22 pm If I had a nickel for every stupid thing I have said and done starting from middle school until now I could have retired sooner on my nickels. That would include both military and business. We all have dirt.
It’s the lying now....as for all with dirt, speak for yourself.
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Well Avenatti’s source was real credible. That one at the party retracted; so it really came down to Dr Ford. Do I think she was abused yes do I think he was the guy no.

BTW how many years do you think Avenatti is going to get. I kept telling my wife this is gonna bit him in the arse as someone is going to start coming forward. He was looking to run for President.

TLD I just do not think he lied so that is the difference. Lying on a resume is stupid as it is too easy on background checks.

I do not have the temperament for all of that.
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TLD I have never met at Saint yet. Probably been hanging in the wrong circles :lol:
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LandM wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:38 pm TLD I have never met at Saint yet. Probably been hanging in the wrong circles :lol:
Big difference between “dirt” and a “saint”. At the very least, don’t lie. You hiring anyone that you find out is lying about what they did on their resume? Not if you would fire a guy after the fact. Hire a guy that’s lying and you know he/she is lying?
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LandM wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:33 pm Well Avenatti’s source was real credible. That one at the party retracted; so it really came down to Dr Ford. Do I think she was abused yes do I think he was the guy no.

BTW how many years do you think Avenatti is going to get. I kept telling my wife this is gonna bit him in the arse as someone is going to start coming forward. He was looking to run for President.

TLD I just do not think he lied so that is the difference. Lying on a resume is stupid as it is too easy on background checks.

I do not have the temperament for all of that.
As for Kavanaugh, he lied about things other than Ford. That was my problem with him. Lying about what “Ralphing means”...for instance..I didn’t know what the word meant until I heard it from my east coast friends in college. Come on. BTW, Rat failed a basic background check and Old Sailor is standing up for him. What happened to honor and integrity.
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Old Ratcliffe got a raw deal:

https://abovethelaw.com/2019/08/looks-l ... is-resume/

Maybe Old Sailor will get the gig.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:25 pm Old Ratcliffe got a raw deal:

https://abovethelaw.com/2019/08/looks-l ... is-resume/

Maybe Old Sailor will get the gig.
Love the graphic from WaPo that showed the comparative experiences of the past DNIs.
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TLD,
IMHO a background check and a few interview questions appropriately worded you can catch most but not all liars.

The problem with Kavanaugh is he had passed multiple background checks before. It was not like he had not been through the process multiple times and then out of the blue? That to me did not pass the smell test then you get Avenatti in the picture and it fell apart. Then two recanted yet the man got grilled. Fast forward he has been praised by Ginsburg and I believe he has an all female staff. After listening to his confirmation hearing what female would go and work for him if he was that horrible? BTW how many Senators do you think have called to apologize to him?

As to the DNI I have not read up on it nor have I commented on it.

As to Honor and Integrity I would also add Duty. Bottom line between the Academy and time in that was 11 years of my life and I have in my dealings both professionally and personally maintained that ethos.
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LandM wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:37 pm TLD,
IMHO a background check and a few interview questions appropriately worded you can catch most but not all liars.

The problem with Kavanaugh is he had passed multiple background checks before. It was not like he had not been through the process multiple times and then out of the blue? That to me did not pass the smell test then you get Avenatti in the picture and it fell apart. Then two recanted yet the man got grilled. Fast forward he has been praised by Ginsburg and I believe he has an all female staff. After listening to his confirmation hearing what female would go and work for him if he was that horrible? BTW how many Senators do you think have called to apologize to him?

As to the DNI I have not read up on it nor have I commented on it.

As to Honor and Integrity I would also add Duty. Bottom line between the Academy and time in that was 11 years of my life and I have in my dealings both professionally and personally maintained that ethos.
Kavanaugh lied about a lot of things. It doesn’t matter he was confirmed. Thanks for the dialogue and sounds like you had a great trip.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:49 pm
LandM wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:33 pm Well Avenatti’s source was real credible. That one at the party retracted; so it really came down to Dr Ford. Do I think she was abused yes do I think he was the guy no.

BTW how many years do you think Avenatti is going to get. I kept telling my wife this is gonna bit him in the arse as someone is going to start coming forward. He was looking to run for President.

TLD I just do not think he lied so that is the difference. Lying on a resume is stupid as it is too easy on background checks.

I do not have the temperament for all of that.
As for Kavanaugh, he lied about things other than Ford. That was my problem with him. Lying about what “Ralphing means”...for instance..I didn’t know what the word meant until I heard it from my east coast friends in college. Come on. BTW, Rat failed a basic background check and Old Sailor is standing up for him. What happened to honor and integrity.
You & Avenatti have a lot in common.

DNI Clapper was caught lying before Congress, ...twice, about what our IC did.

NEWSFLASH : Spooks & politicians get paid to lie. You just whine about the ones you don't like.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 045991001/
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