Trump's Russian Collusion

[MDlaxfan76]

This a.m. on MJ, David Ignatius looked uneasy.

Nonsense. What could Ignatius and Wapo possibly have to worry about.

He'll be losing a source (probably more than one).
Maybe his expense account records will be unmasked.
He'll get a Deep State Hero of the Resistance Award for his part in taking out Nat Sec Advisor Flynn.
Flynn was the appetizer, Trump was the entree.

How many times have you repeated that dumb last line?

Flynn was dishonest and was trying to make a buck at the expense of the truth. But, yes, had he stayed the heck away from Trump he'd have been ok. Everything that touches Trump turns rotten, or is exposed as rotten. Only the best people.

But Trump's at the core of the rot.

[Trinity]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-a ... d=64634140

Trump aides cleared his America First campaign energy speech with his UAE buds. Thank you, Paul Manafort and Tom Barrack.

[old salt]

How many times have you repeated that dumb last line?

Not often enough. ..

[MDlaxfan76]

How many times have you repeated that dumb last line?

Not often enough. ..

Yes, it was an original line...once.

But rapidly became a dumb line, all part of the effort to whitewash each of the Trump loyalists' various offenses.
You've been particularly dogged about trying to defend Flynn, in particular.

[dislaxxic]

Whoever leaked Judge Collyer's report needs to be drawn and quartered on the Mall in DC...according old Salty's version of justice...if that is actually real news...

.. PottyMouthMarcy can analyze this :
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/artic ... 40429.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/artic ... 40226.html

Obama never went back and prosecuted George Bush and the criminal conspiracists like Dick Cheney and Alberto Gonzales that helped Shrub put us on the path of the Unitary Executive that is currently running rampant in Trump's DC Swamp.

No more...this can of worms is going to turn into a Can of WHOOPAZZ on Don the Con and this current crop of GOP criminals.

Trying to enjoy a summer away from all this madness. It's hard to avert your eyes...

..

[old salt]

How many times have you repeated that dumb last line?

Not often enough. ..

Yes, it was an original line...once.

But rapidly became a dumb line, all part of the effort to whitewash each of the Trump loyalists' various offenses.
You've been particularly dogged about trying to defend Flynn, in particular.

Don't forget master spies Papadop & Carter Page. ...an elaborate conspiracy.

[MDlaxfan76]

How many times have you repeated that dumb last line?

Not often enough. ..

Yes, it was an original line...once.

But rapidly became a dumb line, all part of the effort to whitewash each of the Trump loyalists' various offenses.
You've been particularly dogged about trying to defend Flynn, in particular.

Don't forget master spies Papadop & Carter Page. ...an elaborate conspiracy.

Doesn't mean they weren't knuckleheads, but yes, it doesn't appear that they were more than 'useful idiots'. The Russians, on the other hand, for the most part knew what their game plan was...to help Trump/hurt HRC and on the remote chance that Trump won, have him compromised up the ying yang. If Clinton won, have her be as damaged as possible, with as much of a divided US as possible. Everyone thought the Clinton win was a foregone conclusion, after all how we could the US possibly elect someone as unqualified and grossly dishonest as Trump? Obama thought so, Clinton thought so, Trump thought so, the Russians thought so. But making it ugly and dirty, all good for the Russians.

And Trump and his various greedy hangers on and family all were welcoming of the assistance, whether for immediate personal gain or as a down payment on the next generation of Trump media et al.

Then the dog actually caught the bus.

Uhh ohh, being compromised by bad deeds and lies, that the Russians knew, but the American people did not...how dare the FBI investigate and blow the whistle? A Director of National Security compromised? A Campaign Chairman and Deputy Campaign Chairman, a son and son-in-law all compromised? Holy moly, that's a mess.

[Typical Lax Dad]

How many times have you repeated that dumb last line?

Not often enough. ..

Yes, it was an original line...once.

But rapidly became a dumb line, all part of the effort to whitewash each of the Trump loyalists' various offenses.
You've been particularly dogged about trying to defend Flynn, in particular.

Don't forget master spies Papadop & Carter Page. ...an elaborate conspiracy.

Doesn't mean they weren't knuckleheads, but yes, it doesn't appear that they were more than 'useful idiots'. The Russians, on the other hand, for the most part knew what their game plan was...to help Trump/hurt HRC and on the remote chance that Trump won, have him compromised up the ying yang. If Clinton won, have her be as damaged as possible, with as much of a divided US as possible. Everyone thought the Clinton win was a foregone conclusion, after all how we could the US possibly elect someone as unqualified and grossly dishonest as Trump? Obama thought so, Clinton thought so, Trump thought so, the Russians thought so. But making it ugly and dirty, all good for the Russians.

And Trump and his various greedy hangers on and family all were welcoming of the assistance, whether for immediate personal gain or as a down payment on the next generation of Trump media et al.

Then the dog actually caught the bus.

Uhh ohh, being compromised by bad deeds and lies, that the Russians knew, but the American people did not...how dare the FBI investigate and blow the whistle? A Director of National Security compromised? A Campaign Chairman and Deputy Campaign Chairman, a son and son-in-law all compromised? Holy moly, that's a mess.

Nope. We should not investigate how a king ascends.

[CU77]

being compromised by bad deeds and lies, that the Russians knew, but the American people did not...how dare the FBI investigate and blow the whistle? A Director of National Security compromised? A Campaign Chairman and Deputy Campaign Chairman, a son and son-in-law all compromised? Holy moly, that's a mess.

Well, not to o.s. and his fellow trumpistas. It was the investigators that were the bad guys, how dare they suspect any wrongdoing by our shiny new POTUS and his cronies??? Obviously a deep-state conspiracy by all those Obama leftists who have congregated in the FBI and the intelligence agencies, just waiting, waiting, through the long long years of Nixon, Ford, Carter (whew! one of their own finally in office), Reagan, Bush I, Clinton (another one, yay!), Bush II, Obama (again, a sigh of relief), until finally, finally, FINALLY, all those Deep State Leftists had to ACT to subvert the reign of the One True King, Emperor Donald, First of His Name.

They took down the King's Hand, Flynn. Reagan and Bush I appointee Judge Emmet Sullivan (who must secretly have been a charter member of the Deep State) didn’t mince words in his courtroom remarks, barely hiding his outrage as he pointed out that Flynn had committed a “very serious crime” in the West Wing of the White House. Sullivan at one point wondered aloud whether Flynn had committed treason. “Arguably, this undermines everything this flag over here stands for,” the judge told Flynn. “Arguably, you sold your country out!”

Hopefully Emperor Donald (praise be his name and peace upon his Family) will able to take out Sullivan soon, and restore Justice to our great country. #MAGA

[a fan]

Well, not to o.s. and his fellow trumpistas. It was the investigators that were the bad guys, how dare they suspect any wrongdoing by our shiny new POTUS and his cronies??? Obviously a deep-state conspiracy by all those Obama leftists who have congregated in the FBI and the intelligence agencies, just waiting, waiting, through the long long years of Nixon, Ford, Carter (whew! one of their own finally in office), Reagan, Bush I, Clinton (another one, yay!), Bush II, Obama (again, a sigh of relief), until finally, finally, FINALLY, all those Deep State Leftists had to ACT to subvert the reign of the One True King, Emperor Donald, First of His Name.

They took down the King's Hand, Flynn. Reagan and Bush I appointee Judge Emmet Sullivan (who must secretly have been a charter member of the Deep State) didn’t mince words in his courtroom remarks, barely hiding his outrage as he pointed out that Flynn had committed a “very serious crime” in the West Wing of the White House. Sullivan at one point wondered aloud whether Flynn had committed treason. “Arguably, this undermines everything this flag over here stands for,” the judge told Flynn. “Arguably, you sold your country out!”

Hopefully Emperor Donald (praise be his name and peace upon his Family) will able to take out Sullivan soon, and restore Justice to our great country. #MAGA

And lets not forget, they did all this KNOWING Hillary was sure to win, but put their careers on the line anyway.

My favorite part is that FBI and DoJ careerists are like totally commie leftists, hell bent on spreading communism throughout America by taking a Republican out. Oh yeah, that sounds like the average FBI and DoJ employees....a bunch of bomb throwing hippies.

I'm surprised the planet has any tin foil left.

[youthathletics]

Is she reading old salts fanlax posts?

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/ ... 2179?s=21d

[old salt]

.. ...the Cassandra chorus of excuse makers, rationalizing the abuses of the Deep State apparatchiks.

If they were well intentioned partriots, they'd quietly conduct their investigations, without leaking to the media & would not perpetuate the media hype when they couldn't deliver the evidence. In a legit investigation, it's not necessary to conduct entrapments to generate evidence.

They didn't want Trump in their govt & would do whatever they could to prevent it, then undermine it.

[a fan]

.. ...the Cassandra chorus of excuse makers, rationalizing the abuses of the Deep State apparatchiks.

You mean all "none" of them? It's been 2 1/2 years, not one single conviction on anything. Maybe wait until someone is actually indicted before spewing this nonsense again?

Your old game of repeating speculation, pretending it's fact. More tin foil. More of your: the FBI has to follow the rules, but Trump's crew doesn't.

You already put your stake in the ground: breaking the law is ok. Too late to change your position now.

If they were well intentioned partriots, they'd quietly conduct their investigations, without leaking to the media & would not perpetuate the media hype when they couldn't deliver the evidence.

You're so completely full of it. You've been speculating for so freaking long that you've convinced yourself you know exactly what happened.

Has it occurred to you that it's quite possible, and even likely, that dozens and dozens of men and women did their patriotic duty, and one single, solitary high level administrator did all the leaking?

Naaahh. They're all guilty, and you know it. I say: Damn any actual evidence or indictments and just shoot them all. Someone has to learn it's not ok to do their freaking jobs.

[CU77]

I'm surprised the planet has any tin foil left.

Made my day, thanks!

[HooDat]

I'm surprised the planet has any tin foil left.

Made my day, thanks!

+1

[old salt]

.. ...the Cassandra chorus of excuse makers, rationalizing the abuses of the Deep State apparatchiks.

You mean all "none" of them? It's been 2 1/2 years, not one single conviction on anything. Maybe wait until someone is actually indicted before spewing this nonsense again?

Your old game of repeating speculation, pretending it's fact. More tin foil. More of your: the FBI has to follow the rules, but Trump's crew doesn't.

You already put your stake in the ground: breaking the law is ok. Too late to change your position now.

If they were well intentioned partriots, they'd quietly conduct their investigations, without leaking to the media & would not perpetuate the media hype when they couldn't deliver the evidence.

You're so completely full of it. You've been speculating for so freaking long that you've convinced yourself you know exactly what happened.

Has it occurred to you that it's quite possible, and even likely, that dozens and dozens of men and women did their patriotic duty, and one single, solitary high level administrator did all the leaking?

Naaahh. They're all guilty, and you know it. I say: Damn any actual evidence or indictments and just shoot them all. Someone has to learn it's not ok to do their freaking jobs.

yadayadayada . ..

https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2019/04/leaks-surge/

The number of leaks of classified information reported as potential crimes by federal agencies reached record high levels during the first two years of the Trump Administration, according to data released by the Justice Department last week.

Agencies transmitted 120 leak referrals to the Justice Department in 2017, and 88 leak referrals in 2018, for an average of 104 per year. By comparison, the average number of leak referrals during the Obama Administration (2009–2016) was 39 per year.

[Trinity]

“Secret Society” Ratcliffe has arrested 300 terrorists or none. Which is it?

[a fan]

“Agencies” . Moving the goalposts are we?

So you’re going to lump all leaking in with the NSA and FISA leaks, and hope I don’t notice, eh?

And what’s this you’re citing? Obama has 39 leaks per year on average?

That’s un-possible!!! We were told the Deep State only existed starting with Trump! No way were their leaks made by the Deep State every year Obama was in office!

Dude. You’re going to lose your secret decoder ring and lifetime supply of Deep State Brand tin foil if you keep this up.

Reminder: leaks only happened to Trump. He’s the only President in our history that had to deal with leaks of classified information. Only Trump had thousands of FBI and DoJ agents working together to bring him down. Get it together, my man! You’re going to lose your street Fred with Sean Hannity.

[old salt]

Right. They were probably classified EPA documents.

[old salt]

.. ...the Cassandra chorus of excuse makers, rationalizing the abuses of the Deep State apparatchiks.

You mean all "none" of them? It's been 2 1/2 years, not one single conviction on anything. Maybe wait until someone is actually indicted before spewing this nonsense again?

Your old game of repeating speculation, pretending it's fact. More tin foil. More of your: the FBI has to follow the rules, but Trump's crew doesn't.

You already put your stake in the ground: breaking the law is ok. Too late to change your position now.

If they were well intentioned partriots, they'd quietly conduct their investigations, without leaking to the media & would not perpetuate the media hype when they couldn't deliver the evidence.

You're so completely full of it. You've been speculating for so freaking long that you've convinced yourself you know exactly what happened.

Has it occurred to you that it's quite possible, and even likely, that dozens and dozens of men and women did their patriotic duty, and one single, solitary high level administrator did all the leaking?

Naaahh. They're all guilty, and you know it. I say: Damn any actual evidence or indictments and just shoot them all. Someone has to learn it's not ok to do their freaking jobs.

“Agencies” . Moving the goalposts are we?

So you’re going to lump all leaking in with the NSA and FISA leaks, and hope I don’t notice, eh?

And what’s this you’re citing? Obama has 39 leaks per year on average?

That’s un-possible!!! We were told the Deep State only existed starting with Trump! No way were their leaks made by the Deep State every year Obama was in office!

Dude. You’re going to lose your secret decoder ring and lifetime supply of Deep State Brand tin foil if you keep this up.

Reminder: leaks only happened to Trump. He’s the only President in our history that had to deal with leaks of classified information. Only Trump had thousands of FBI and DoJ agents working together to bring him down. Get it together, my man! You’re going to lose your street Fred with Sean Hannity.

FTR -- (& your peace of mind). I do not think there's some vast Deep State conspiracy. I think most career officials in the IC & DoJ are true to their oath & do not abuse their powers or access. Political appointees (including career officials in appointed positions) are another story. That's why IG oversight is valuable, even when non-punitive.

Having said that -- I don't necessarily expect sweeping indictments, in large numbers.
I expect more of what we're seeing (so far) with the conduct & actions of Comey, McCabe, Strzok, & L Page.
...& I'll be reassured if their actions were examined & they were held to account,
without penalty or the further criminalization of politics.