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blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am
wgdsr wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:58 pm addendum to stupified...as that article probably speaks to if it's the one i recall -- the new and the old staff all have looked at moore as an attackman since as far back as high school -- moore didn't want to go there as a freshman, and then was willing to last year. and then sets the single season points record. more importantly, became the main assist guy to facilitate to others, particularly when kraus wasn't healthy.

i would be a little shocked if they messed with that, especially for any guy getting on the field for the first time. though i was surprised when they courted gray, so what do i know? anything could happen, but i see it as unlikely. moore is a rider like kraus and laviano. he's a facilitator. you want him on the field for all the fast breaks, rides, etc.

the middies the last 2 years were:
2018 - dox, moore, someone rotating in
2019 - early year- dox, conner + somebody : last 2/3 year- dox, conrad + somebody.

so the common denominator is dox, of course. there are a lot of other guys, and i don't think anyone can really predict right now who may be the ones getting the most burn. kirwan just did a recent podcast and espoused the "best 6 guys" on offense theory. they may settle on one other guy and rotate others around dox +1, or just have it be dox and the supremes.

as far as the d guys you mentioned, rock and conners have filled the lsm spot, and been very good at it. i don't see that changing.
with kology gone, they got thin with injuries last year @ pole, but i'd imagine we'll see a fresh face down low, whether it's one of the 3 new defensemen or someone from the roster.

what i would like to see if the "other mids" can step up offensively is for aitken to take more wings, middle of the field clears, etc. fill some of conrad's role himself. he was very good at it freshman year, and even a dip in offensive production would give the hoos a lot of what they're losing in conrad's void.
Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless. We have some great individual players but D is the area that is going to require the most work in the Fall. Agree that we were really thin(and Fortunate) at Close D. Greco and top reserve, Dol ,graduated. We have 3 superb incoming long pole prospects. I don't foresee all of them at Close but probably 2 will need to be out of necessity and there is ample playing time available including a starting spot. I am less certain who else on the roster is a viable candidate to start and wondered who else you think might figure into that competition? Chris Merle practiced with a pole some before he was injured and seems like he ends up as a LSM or short stick middle. We are also very thin at short stick. Hall Peters was an Under Armour AA but took a year off and then there is Ken Olexo who has been injured since high school. Neither played much or at all but were 1st years. How are they developing and is there anyone else?
i have to imagine somehow or some way more poles will show up on the roster by january. reilly is another who was out all of last year.
so hopefully olexo, peters, reilly, 3 1st years, and guy or 2 we don't know about. someone will get injured. hopefully, not as big a crop get hurt as last year.
no idea who has the inside track for starting, though i do expect whoever wins it will be good.

with losing 3 ssdm's (and gaining some poles back from injury), i expect merle would go back to ssdm. they'd still need to find one or 2 more on top of him.
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blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am
Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless.
Obvious, over-recruiting. :lol:
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Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 am
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am
Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless.
Obvious, over-recruiting. :lol:
Naah, they are all gonna play!
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blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:37 pm
Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 am
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am
Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless.
Obvious, over-recruiting. :lol:
Naah, they are all gonna play!
they're all going to win a Natty!!! :lol: :mrgreen:
STILL somewhere back in the day....

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blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:37 pm
Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 am
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless.
Obvious, over-recruiting. :lol:
Naah, they are all gonna play!
easy, cooter!!! where are the mods for this kind of thing, anyway?!?!?
you already know how this torpedoed the 'hoos season with the goalie sitch and ergo a team torn asunder. fans are still smarting and the team is potentially fractured irretrievably. strife and stuff. you could take it easy on us. at least until happy hour.
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wgdsr wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:08 pm
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:37 pm
Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 am
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless.
Obvious, over-recruiting. :lol:
Naah, they are all gonna play!
easy, cooter!!! where are the mods for this kind of thing, anyway?!?!?
you already know how this torpedoed the 'hoos season with the goalie sitch and ergo a team torn asunder. fans are still smarting and the team is potentially fractured irretrievably. strife and stuff. you could take it easy on us. at least until happy hour.
All those posters were accusing the Terps of over-recruiting. I thought I would share the enjoyment. :lol:
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Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:23 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:08 pm
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:37 pm
Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 am
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless.
Obvious, over-recruiting. :lol:
Naah, they are all gonna play!
easy, cooter!!! where are the mods for this kind of thing, anyway?!?!?
you already know how this torpedoed the 'hoos season with the goalie sitch and ergo a team torn asunder. fans are still smarting and the team is potentially fractured irretrievably. strife and stuff. you could take it easy on us. at least until happy hour.
All those posters were accusing the Terps of over-recruiting. I thought I would share the enjoyment. :lol:
Saw that but it wasn’t any of your Virginia people doing it.....just sayin.
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Ty Xanders has added another to UVa's 2020 glut of recruits:
Cole Kastner '20, D, Menlo (Calif.) / @WestCoastStarz has committed to @UVAMensLax. Standing 6'7, Kastner had Ivy League basketball interest before having a big year as a rangy defender:
Projections for the lax team's intramural basketball team just went up.

Kastner is on Adrenline's 2020 watchlist and was a US HS AA from Silicon Valley.

IL's evaluation:
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/profile/46871
Xanders gives him an 86 for his performance in the UA underclassmen tournament this summer.
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nyclaxfan wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:52 pm I recently re-watched the end of the UVA-Maryland NCAA tournament game. What a game! What jumped out (again) was Ryan Conrad's ground balls from the face-off wing, UVA forcing turnovers, Maryland trying to run out the clock and dumping the ball, Conrad's scoring and Petey Lasalla's face-off wins.

I also saw an old article on UVA's website on rising junior Matt Moore (link below).

https://virginiasports.com/news/2019/5/ ... moore.aspx

This article refers to aforementioned indications that Moore was on the 1st midfield again going into the season before freshman attackman Payton Cormier had an injury.

Does Matt Moore take Conrad's role on the face-off wings and all over the field?

{snip}

Thoughts?
In a podcast interview this week, Lars said that Moore will remain on attack.
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Cooter wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:54 pm Ty Xanders has added another to UVa's 2020 glut of recruits:
Cole Kastner '20, D, Menlo (Calif.) / @WestCoastStarz has committed to @UVAMensLax. Standing 6'7, Kastner had Ivy League basketball interest before having a big year as a rangy defender:
Projections for the lax team's intramural basketball team just went up.

Kastner is on Adrenline's 2020 watchlist and was a US HS AA from Silicon Valley.

IL's evaluation:
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/profile/46871
Xanders gives him an 86 for his performance in the UA underclassmen tournament this summer.
I trust our D1 staff's own evaluation if they think the player is a fit than he's a fit.I know Xanders does the write ups but I am not sure who at IL actually does the evaluations and what their lacrosse coaching/playing experience is to make these sorts of evaluations carry much validity. It's easier to evaluate good offensive players by productivity, but a little more nuanced for defenders.
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blue angels wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:58 am
Cooter wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:54 pm Ty Xanders has added another to UVa's 2020 glut of recruits:
Cole Kastner '20, D, Menlo (Calif.) / @WestCoastStarz has committed to @UVAMensLax. Standing 6'7, Kastner had Ivy League basketball interest before having a big year as a rangy defender:
Projections for the lax team's intramural basketball team just went up.

Kastner is on Adrenline's 2020 watchlist and was a US HS AA from Silicon Valley.

IL's evaluation:
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/profile/46871
Xanders gives him an 86 for his performance in the UA underclassmen tournament this summer.
I trust our D1 staff's own evaluation if they think the player is a fit than he's a fit.I know Xanders does the write ups but I am not sure who at IL actually does the evaluations and what their lacrosse coaching/playing experience is to make these sorts of evaluations carry much validity. It's easier to evaluate good offensive players by productivity, but a little more nuanced for defenders.
It usually seems that staffs end up picking a few reserves, so while IL's evaluations are questionable, it is nice to see another source that believes the recruit can be a good D1 player. He at least would cover a lot of area on man-down situations.

Have you heard anything on the location or date of the supposed UVa-UMd game. I heard a rumor that UMd had moved the Villanova game to February, which would appear to open up the March 14 weekend this coming Spring for UMd.
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blue angels wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:58 am
Cooter wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:54 pm Ty Xanders has added another to UVa's 2020 glut of recruits:
Cole Kastner '20, D, Menlo (Calif.) / @WestCoastStarz has committed to @UVAMensLax. Standing 6'7, Kastner had Ivy League basketball interest before having a big year as a rangy defender:
Projections for the lax team's intramural basketball team just went up.

Kastner is on Adrenline's 2020 watchlist and was a US HS AA from Silicon Valley.

IL's evaluation:
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/profile/46871
Xanders gives him an 86 for his performance in the UA underclassmen tournament this summer.
I trust our D1 staff's own evaluation if they think the player is a fit than he's a fit.I know Xanders does the write ups but I am not sure who at IL actually does the evaluations and what their lacrosse coaching/playing experience is to make these sorts of evaluations carry much validity. It's easier to evaluate good offensive players by productivity, but a little more nuanced for defenders.
The 4.75/5 footwork rating is noteworthy. Not a shocker since bb tends to help footwork . A 6'7 kid possessing good lateral movement is a asset to have whether it be strictly for certain matchups or heavy minutes
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Salisbury had two freshmen poles last season. One 6'5" and one 6'7". In a lock down zone they're formidable.

If Kastner continues to develop under Tiffany's tutelage, he'll make a significant contribution. He'll need to keep his weight down which shouldn't be a problem with the UVA emphasis on fitness. Look forward to watching him play.
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blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:24 pm
Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:23 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:08 pm
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:37 pm
Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 am
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless.
Obvious, over-recruiting. :lol:
Naah, they are all gonna play!
easy, cooter!!! where are the mods for this kind of thing, anyway?!?!?
you already know how this torpedoed the 'hoos season with the goalie sitch and ergo a team torn asunder. fans are still smarting and the team is potentially fractured irretrievably. strife and stuff. you could take it easy on us. at least until happy hour.
All those posters were accusing the Terps of over-recruiting. I thought I would share the enjoyment. :lol:
Saw that but it wasn’t any of your Virginia people doing it.....just sayin.
Coots never lets FACTS get in the way of him taking jabs at the Hoos. :roll:
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Laxter wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:14 pm
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:24 pm
Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:23 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:08 pm
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:37 pm
Cooter wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:46 am
blue angels wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:43 am Truthfully, we have a myriad of options on offense which is the least of our problems as we will be potent there, regardless.
Obvious, over-recruiting. :lol:
Naah, they are all gonna play!
easy, cooter!!! where are the mods for this kind of thing, anyway?!?!?
you already know how this torpedoed the 'hoos season with the goalie sitch and ergo a team torn asunder. fans are still smarting and the team is potentially fractured irretrievably. strife and stuff. you could take it easy on us. at least until happy hour.
All those posters were accusing the Terps of over-recruiting. I thought I would share the enjoyment. :lol:
Saw that but it wasn’t any of your Virginia people doing it.....just sayin.
Coots never lets FACTS get in the way of him taking jabs at the Hoos. :roll:
Well.... He gave us some good info on recruiting. Can anyone confirm when we play Maryland this season? Assume that is a done deal but not positive.
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blue angels wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:19 pm {snip}

Well.... He gave us some good info on recruiting. Can anyone confirm when we play Maryland this season? Assume that is a done deal but not positive.
The whole schedule is a matter of guesswork right now. There were rumors I heard earlier on that the Cuse game may get moved to later in the season. Haven't heard anything lately. What could happen is that Cuse gets moved to the weekend of late March when we played JHU and UMd moves into the Feb weekend we played Cuse. But, again, that's 100% unadulterated speculation and guesswork on my part.
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HowieT3 wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:11 pm
blue angels wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:19 pm {snip}

Well.... He gave us some good info on recruiting. Can anyone confirm when we play Maryland this season? Assume that is a done deal but not positive.
The whole schedule is a matter of guesswork right now. There were rumors I heard earlier on that the Cuse game may get moved to later in the season. Haven't heard anything lately. What could happen is that Cuse gets moved to the weekend of late March when we played JHU and UMd moves into the Feb weekend we played Cuse. But, again, that's 100% unadulterated speculation and guesswork on my part.
Perhaps UVa could also have been asked to move the Notre Dame game (Mar 16 last year) to later in the season.
Rumor has it that Maryland has moved Villanova (last year's Mar 16 game) to February.
This would open up that weekend (Mar 14) for both teams.

(Maryland played ND on Mar 3 last season).

One of the interesting facets of the ACC moving its games to the end of the season, is that it will take 5 weekends to play the 4 games (for each team) and 1 team will not be playing a league opponent each weekend. Last year, only ND vs UNC was played on the weekend before the ACC tmt. So it would look more likely that Syracuse vs UVa would move to the last game before the ACC tmt in March, and Notre Dame vs UVa moves forward one week to the Hopkins' weekend. This would also be pure speculation.
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Cuse supposedly has to be out of their Dome by 3/1 as it will be undergoing renovations so their AD may seek to schedule warmer weather opponents such as UVA earlier than later and push cold weather opponents back at whatever outside home site they use . Many Cuse fans do enjoy road trips to Charlottesville, Raleigh and Annapolis. Unfortunately UNC is slated to be a home game and supposedly Navy is not on schedule. When Cuse comes down, can they have refs this year? only kidding, congrats once again on chips.
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stupefied wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:23 pm supposedly Navy is not on schedule.
Navy was Syracuse's opponent the weekend before the ACC tmt last year.
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Cooter wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:59 pm
stupefied wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:23 pm supposedly Navy is not on schedule.
Navy was Syracuse's opponent the weekend before the ACC tmt last year.
Navy and Cuse already had their 2 game home and away deal....unless it was to last longer than expected.
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